The racist b***h who called Michelle "an ape in heels" is getting her job back!

[rzemanfl]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/wva-official-who-lost-job-over-racist-michelle-obama-remark-quietly-reinstated/ar-AAlt3Wq?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp

Shit.

[Chasstev365]

1. Of course she is

[rzemanfl]

2. Well, I suppose it's better than having Trump appoint her to something.

Like the EEOC.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. I agree, but why do you feel the need to use the "b"-word?!

[rzemanfl]

41. Please scroll down.

I think in these times, when the orange asshole I would be considered sexist for calling a "son of a *****" or a "b***ard" here is about to ruin the country we have better things to do. I apologized once and asked a question. I got no answer and formed a conclusion.

[Different Drummer]

3. IOIYAR n/t

[jalan48]

4. She's been the best First Lady in my lifetime.

[rzemanfl]

6. Mine too, although Jackie came close. n/t

[jalan48]

9. I was in junior high back then so I don't remember much of her.

Lady Bird Johnson was good too.

[Leghorn21]

5. Got some seriously repulsed people posting on

the Clay County Development facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Clay-County-Development-Corporation-WV/119806228092418

[rzemanfl]

8. Thank you. n/t

[JimBeard]

55. I imagine they have a telephone number. Yes, nude first lady is more classy (Sarcasm)

[Jean-Jacques Roussea]

7. She said it wasn't a racist post. That Michelle just wasn't "classy or dignified" like Melania

https://img-fotki.yandex.ru/get/55231/97833783.133b/0_19cfb0_f9d6418e_orig

gee, racism perhaps?

[rzemanfl]

11. It would be "an." I translated it to English. West Virginia must have top-notch

schools....

[Volaris]

16. I was going to post post the same thing, you beat me to it.

Yeah, fuck her ignorant self AND her vote. We created the Public Education system to build an Enlightened and literate populace and look what the worthless among us did with it... the worst were to willingly dumb to learn how to spell their insults correctly and the 'best' used what they did learn to rob the fucking Treasury.

I'm done with the Deplorables. The only way their lives are going to start getting better is if THEY start hurting and I'm finished trying to stop it. I'll survive it, I've been doing it my whole adult life.

I hope this backwards ass redneck likes pain and lots of it, because it's coming on Jan 20.

[spanone]

10. hey pamela, you fuck your racist self.

[Hortensis]

12. Despicable. Hope the good locals are are newly outraged.

It's certainly okay for them to see this as the slap at them and community standards that it is.

As for classy, Taylor herself would be outclassed by a paper napkin.

What a great picture of Michelle, btw.

[Tanuki]

13. Her twitter page includes re-tweets of the Nazi salutes

at the recent White Nationalist event in DC, a bad photoshop purporting to show all four of the Obamas sporting Che Guevara t-shirts, and more. How this former cosmetologist was ever hired for her $84K/yr. job, which ostensibly requires a master's degree, would probably make an interesting story. She has a sketchy record in this agency, including accusations of pocketing fundraising receipts, lawsuits for unfair firing, etc.

https://mobile.twitter.com/pamelaramseyta2?lang=en


http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/20161210/clay-nonprofit-official-who-posted-racist-comment-to-return-to-work

[rzemanfl]

22. At the risk of being sexist (see posts 17 & 18 below).

When a woman gets a high-paying job she is singularly unqualified for, a man thinks only one thing: "Who is she ****ing?"

When she loses it in dramatic fashion then gets it back, a man thinks, "Hmmm... she must be blackmailing somebody."

[DLevine]

34. No, nothing sexist about that at all.

[rzemanfl]

43. What do you think when a woman gets a high paying job she isn't qualified for? n/t

[DLevine]

45. OMG. My mistake, I thought I was on DU, not JPR. nt

[Demit]

47. Politics. Just like when a man gets a job he isn't qualified for.

[LanternWaste]

49. It begs the question: what do you think when a male gets a high-paying job he's not qualified for?

It begs the question: what do you think when a male gets a high-paying job he's not qualified for?

(insert distinction lacking relevant difference below to better validate your application of two standards...)

[rzemanfl]

53. Applying the two standards.

I think nepotism, the old boy network or incompetent decision making.

Women are by definition not part of the old boy network.

I know from personal experience that the question "Who is she ****ing?" explained a lot of hiring decisions. I am not defending it, but won't ignore it.

[mythology]

60. So you think Trump is fucking DeVos?

She is utterly unqualified for secretary of education, but is nominated for the job.

Lots of people get jobs they aren't qualified for. Most aren't having sex with their boss.

[rzemanfl]

64. How much money did her family f**k people out of so she could contribute to

to Drumpf's campaign? She will launder her capital gains through her appointment and f**k all of us.

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/betsy-devos-trumps-big-donor-education-secretary

[Tanuki]

58. That is not my assumption. I grew up in West Virginia, and my assumption is that her family is well-

connected, has probably lived in the community for many generations, and someone is being paid back or paid off.

[Cha]

14. The local mayor still lost her job.. it's like billy bush and trump perversion..

The post also cost the local mayor her job. Former Clay Mayor Beverly Whaling resigned after commenting that Taylor's post "just made my day."

[cwydro]

15. This doesn't surprise me, sadly.

I don't usually like internet shaming, but I hope she gets both barrels.

Yuck.

[JTFrog]

17. Why fight racism with sexism?

There are many things you could have called this disgusting woman without resorting to bigotry yourself.

[rzemanfl]

19. I am an old man and chose a word from my old man vocabulary. Sorry.

Is there absolutely no depth a woman can descend to before she is worthy of a word like mine? I'm sure you know there are many more floating around in my 69 year-old brain.

[JTFrog]

21. Whatever helps you sleep at night. nt

[rzemanfl]

23. From your response I can only conclude calling Ilse Koch

"The Bitch of Buchenwald" was an undeserved epithet in an unenlightened time.

I guess Poor Ilse was a victim of the master narrative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilse_Koch

[JTFrog]

24. Keep digging. nt

[cwydro]

25. I'm a woman.

That word fits in this case.

I don't know a single woman who has not used that word, but I guess DUers are all pure as the driven snow.

[rzemanfl]

26. Thank you.

I thought it fit. Post #13 above makes me think of other nasty words.

[cwydro]

33. Don't let them bait you.

Not worth it.

[JTFrog]

28. Or maybe we see the hypocrisy of calling someone a racist while using sexist language.

It's amazing how much resistance there can be here against just using another word that doesn't have the bullshit sexist "woman bad" and other negative connotations to it.

And we still see thread after thread about sexism not playing any part in where we are today.

[cwydro]

32. Sexism is alive and well in this country.

Misogyny was a large part of Hillary's loss.

But I think it's hypocritical to shame anyone for using that word.

It's descriptive, and I just don't see it as sexist in every iteration. Context is important.

Kellyanne Conway fits that word too.

[DLevine]

38. Disagree. Many women find it sexist and offensive. nt

[cwydro]

40. I don't.

Depends on context.

We all have our opinions.

[JTFrog]

44. We disagree.

I don't think it can be justified with saying “well, she is acting like a "bitch.”

You can't separate the word “bitch” from its negative, sexist connotations. Every time you call someone a "bitch", you are reinforcing the idea that women are lesser and that it’s somehow bad to be a woman. The characterizions people usually call “bitchy” are almost always stereo typically negative qualities constantly attributed to women. I’m not saying don’t insult her. But can't we do it without implying that it’s an insult to be a woman?

Can't we just stop and think about why we continue to use these words even after saying something like "Misogyny was a large part of Hillary's loss."? In my opinion it's just a continuation and normilization of sexism.

[Demit]

37. There's a time and a place. A public forum isn't the place

unless you revel in being crude.

[cwydro]

39. Omg. Seriously?

I rarely curse on DU, but it is a point of pride with many I could name here.

Some cannot post without using f**k every few words. Many of our most prolific posters seem to need to be crude in every post.

I'll watch for you to censure them, k?

[Demit]

46. It's not the cursing, per se. It's the derogatory words for women.

I'm not censuring anybody, cwydro. I'm not in a position to. What I'm doing is registering my opposition to derogatory words for women in public. Especially from men, but from women too. I believe you can show your contempt for a person's actions without using loaded language like the self-described "old man" here did.

[cwydro]

50. I'll respect your opinion.

I don't think calling him an "old man" is so nice either.

Yes, I know he used the term first, but you're getting a lot of mileage out of it.

Funny thing - so many here are happy to tell their age, and recently I've learned that many, many DUers are "old".

I don't use derogatory words for women or for men, nor do I usually curse on this forum. I think it bespeaks a lack of vocabulary.

I can think of a few DUers (not you) who regularly cuss in posts, and it is so obvious that they think it makes them sound tough or cool. Nah, makes them look like a 7th grader.

[Demit]

56. Yes, he used it first. As an excuse, which is why I was being pointed about it.

I'm old too, as a matter of fact. So I've lived through a lot of sexism and other forms of bigotry in my life. When I was younger, in the 70s and 80s and 90s—when Mr self-described "old man" was younger, btw, because he's around my age—I had to smile sweetly and accept the put-down language for comity's sake, even for my job's sake. "Oh it's just a joke," "Oh you have no sense of humor," "What are you, one of those women's libbers?" But I don't have to anymore, so I don't.

Today's young men are going to grow into old men and then they'll use the excuse of being old, just like the one in this thread did, who by the way let us know that he was aware of what he was doing, and then did it anyway.

[cwydro]

59. I think you and I are on the same page.

[Demit]

62. Cheers:)

[JTFrog]

66. Imagine the racist in the OP saying that: "I'm an old woman and chose a word from my vocabulary..."

"I'm sure you know there are many more floating around in my 69 year-old brain."

Would that excuse her racism? Hell no. It would highlight it.

Doesn't excuse sexism either.

You can't fight bigotry with bigotry.

[Demit]

29. Well, you've given yourself a built in excuse. Why not let it rip with all the other words

you're thinking of? You know, being an old man who can't keep up with the times and all.

[Demit]

27. Exactly. I'm glad you said it.

[metroins]

30. lol.

[nini]

61. As a woman..that word doesn't bother me one bit

And just sometimes the shoe fits. This is one of those cases.

[JTFrog]

67. As a woman myself, I understand very well that women can be sexist too.

I'm not debating whether the use of the word is sexist or not. It is. And everyone here knows it.

You don't fight bigotry with bigotry.

[nini]

70. ok

we disagree. Some people simply do not deserve respect.

[TheFrenchRazor]

68. the vast majority of women have opposed every advance for them that was ever proposed. nothing

new under the sun, indeed.

[nini]

71. Not sure where you're going with this

[TheFrenchRazor]

18. so, using sexist language to denounce racism? i love that... not. nt

[rzemanfl]

20. Please see post above. n/t

[riversedge]

31. Taylor was only suspended. Also she has a history of trouble-making....

More details here.


Seems the agency is corrupt. Why she is still working there is beyond me. IMHO.



....................Before she became director, Taylor was briefly removed twice from her job at the CCDC.

In 1999, Taylor and two other employees lost their jobs when Clay Development's board was restructured. Within a few days, a judge ordered that all three get their jobs back.

Taylor said in a lawsuit deposition that she was removed from her job again in 2002 after she was accused of pocketing fundraising dollars, but was hired back after a few months.

In 2009, Clay Development listed the job requirements for the executive director position. The director was supposed to have, at minimum, a bachelor's degree with 10 years' experience.

Taylor said in a 2008 deposition that she attended Clay County High School and had no college education. Prior to joining the Clay Development staff in 1989, she was a cosmetologist..........................


- See more at: http://www.wvgazettemail.com/news/20161210/clay-nonprofit-official-who-posted-racist-comment-to-return-to-work#sthash.DMdYa5oT.dpuf

[cwydro]

36. Thanks for posting that.

I hope this woman gets what she deserves.

But since she lives in a lily-white town, I imagine she'll be just fine.

[Cal Carpenter]

42. How hard is it to just use "asshole"?

No gender bias, no accidental or deliberate sexism, a nice old school all-purpose word.

Honestly, in this day and age, it doesn't matter how old you are - if you use the word you used on this board, you are being deliberately provocative and you don't get to play dumb about it.

Be respectful and use a different word, or make the choice and use the offensive one.

You made your choice.

[rzemanfl]

48. Asshole is a fine generic term.

But boring. I will intersperse with bumhole, anus, poop chute, butthole, rectum and others as they come to mind.

I left this board early in 2010 largely because of the grave dancing that followed Annette Apollo's suicide. I came back after p***ygate. DU has changed. I don't think "b***h" would have caused such a stir 6 years ago.

Please answer a question for me, what is JPR?

[LanternWaste]

51. It's fun to rationalize our sexist behaviors, it let's us feel more clever than we are

It's fun to rationalize our sexist behaviors, it let's us feel more clever than we are, and justifies our continued use of sexist language.

"I don't think..."
That's all you really had to say.

[Cal Carpenter]

63. Oh, I get it

Because my first thought is "If asshole is boring to you, wouldn't you find the B-word be boring too? Not the most creative insult..."

But I see it now - the B-word isn't boring to you, but only because you know it will cause an uproar on DU. Fifty years ago "n*****" wouldn't have caused a stir in many places. Things change, and sometimes for the better.

(eta: not sure why you asked me about it, but I believe JPR is lately a reference to a discussion board named after Jackpine Radical, a former DUer who passed away. I don't know if he started this other board or if others named it after him. All I know about it is what I see here - it appears that most of DU is not pleased with whatever they're about)

[rzemanfl]

65. I was agreeing to use "asshole" or variants of it instead of sexist terms. Watch me.

I'm sure others will. I know saying "fat asshole" would subject me to criticism for body shaming on this oh so correct board.

I asked about JPR because it appears elsewhere in this thread.

[rockfordfile]

52. Americans need come out and protest the un-American racist

She should be fired.

[SoCalMusicLover]

54. Breaking Bad

As you can see, the word can apply to men as well. It does not sound quite as sexist when Jesse Pinkman says it.

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[JTFrog]

57. "As you can see, the word can apply to men as well."

Some people try to argue that the word is used against men so it's not sexist or "as sexist". The reason a man is insulted when someone calls him a "bitch" is because that person is usually implying that he is acting like a woman (which is ridiculous because all women are different) and that is "bad".

[rzemanfl]

69. Son of a Pamela Taylor! I just figured out how to deal with this and stop all the Pamela Tayloring!

Why didn't I think of this before? Oh well, life's a Pamela Taylor and then you die.