ABC News tonight

[SHRED]

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They reported that the CIA and the intelligence community is concerned with giving tRump intel for fear it will go straight to the Kremlin.

Wow.
Shit is getting real.

ON EDIT...many thanks to "dooner" for tracking this down:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trumps-cia-rebukes-create-unprecedented-feud-intelligence-agencies/story?id=44154762

[SunSeeker]

1. Because it will. nt

[Grins]

66. Because they have.

His constant tweeting opened the cyber-door to all his records and personal shit. There is a REASON presidents do not use them!! Obama is not allowed to use an iPhone because it can't be secured, and uses a Blackberry that was stripped down by NSA engineers and secured.

The Russians have been watching Trump for more than 5-years, think they didn't hack that tweet factory of his years ago...?

[sarcasmo]

2. Shocked ABC reported real news.

[HurricaneWarning]

48. Me, too.

This is bigly!

[rpannier]

53. Probably an accident on their part

They probably mistook it for a special report on the Kardashians

[boston bean]

3. Link?

[SHRED]

8. I saw it on TV live

[uponit7771]

16. Was this just some comment or lead news ? thx in advance

[SHRED]

22. More than a comment but not lead

[ailsagirl]

65. Dammit! It should be the number one story everywhere

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[SHRED]

68. In fairness...

...watch the clip.

I could have worded my OP better. It was more of a comment but in the context of the entire clip I found it revealing.
Last night I was stunned and hurried my post.
I didn't hear that this was the "official" position of the intelligence community.
Sorry if I misled in any way but the fact this segment made it on a major nightly news is very important.

[ailsagirl]

82. I didn't have time to watch the clip this morning before I left for work

I'll check it out later on.

Thanks!

[mopinko]

4. i said from the start they should plant some disinfo.

and see who gets it.
it seems to me like just doing your job.

[rzemanfl]

6. Exactly. If the two of us thought of it....n/t

[uponit7771]

18. 3 of us thought it and if we've thought it most likely it has been done already, verify info has ...

... most likely already been done.

If it isn't Benedict Donald himself then its one of the Band Of Bigots he surrounded himself with

[Maru Kitteh]

29. Bennidict Donald. I like that one.

[mountain grammy]

36. Benedict Donald!

why didn't we have that one during the campaign? My new name for don the con!

[Fast Walker 52]

81. #benedictDonald used many times already on twitter!

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23benedictDonald&src=typd

[uponit7771]

84. sigh... agent orange is trigger... what else... there's a good one here already... hmm, Donald Putin

... isn't snappy enough.

anh... we got 4 years

[Pachamama]

26. Thought it and said it too a few weeks ago after Rachel Maddow did a story that talked about whether

... Intelligence was safe to be given to him with the possibility to be leaked by people in the Trumpski transition team...

I believe disinformation was leaked to test, and it happened and our intelligence agencies know it's happening...

[uponit7771]

27. +1

[sdfernando]

72. I think this is a pretty standard practice...

wouldn't be surprised at all if they already haven't done this.

[mopinko]

74. well lets hope when he takes the bait that someone is there

to capture the moment and put it on twitter.

[sdfernando]

75. Sure would be great, but I have no faith in the cheeto supporters or the media any longer

If that happened cheeto hombre would take to twitter and say its all lies and made up. His supports will believe him and the media will passively step back after a day or two and go along.

we're all fucked!

[awoke_in_2003]

88. The president can't take a crap

without someone listening. If he hands over info, the SS will know. Now, will try tell?

[rzemanfl]

5. The CIA should give Drumpf the name of someone in the Kremlin and say he is an agent.

When Putin arrests the innocent guy they'll have Trump by his tiny balls.

[doc03]

9. Putin doesn't arrest people he kills them nt

[rzemanfl]

12. That would be unfortunate. n/t

[awoke_in_2003]

89. Killing someone on false info

is unfortunate? I wouldn't want that blood on my hands.

[rzemanfl]

91. Your concern for the imaginary blood of the imagined victim of Putin after the imaginary CIA

set up of the victim and Drumpf's expected treason is noted. I presume the people in a position to do these things would know if they were putting someone's life in Drumpf's hands. After January 20th, Orange Julius Caesar will have the nuclear codes and all our lives will be in his hot headed tiny hands.

[awoke_in_2003]

93. The post you responded to

said we should name an innocent Kremlin official as being a spy. That would likely mark the innocent Kremlin official for death. Your lack of concern about the life of an innocent person is also noted. But hey, why not? We kill lots of innocents with drones, what's a few more innocent deaths for our glorious empire.

On edit: correction- you advocated naming an official person. When it was brought up that they would be killed, you basically said "so what". You're sick.

[rzemanfl]

94. Good thing I'm not in the CIA. This is a message board, not a top secret agency somewhere.

I don't know if Putin has people killed "on suspicion" as the poster before asserted.

[awoke_in_2003]

95. Ok, let's take death out of the equation

Do you advocate the arrest of innocent people? Your first post sure reads that way.

On edit: your words
"The CIA should give Drumpf the name of someone in the Kremlin and say he is an agent. When Putin arrests the innocent guy they'll have Trump by his tiny balls."

[rzemanfl]

96. When an act of war has been committed against my country and the President-elect is a

possible agent of or useful idiot for a foreign power? Yes, then the end justifies the means. The key here is the person would be totally safe unless Orange Julius Caesar is a Russian puppet. I would like to think no American would convey secrets to the Kremlin, especially the President-elect. Please remember the thread is about the CIA fearing anything they tell Drumpf would go right to Putin. They know far more than I do.

[roamer65]

7. Plant some "bait" and see if it goes to the Kremlin.

A fake project or such.

[uponit7771]

14. already done... I'd bet good money on it

[Fast Walker 52]

80. yep, and I bet they got a positive hit with the intel going to Russia

and it probably isn't trump either, doing it.

[kentuck]

10. Wow!

So that is why Trump is pissed off at them? And refuses to go to the morning intel briefings?

[bdamomma]

31. tRump

gets his briefings from Russia. Didn't you hear him say I am paraphrasing now He is a smart guy, he doesn't need people telling him the same stuff over and over again.

WHAT A FUCKING IDIOT

and he is messing around with CHINA!!!!!!!

[HurricaneWarning]

49. Fredo

When he said that, I did my best impression of Fredo in Godfather II. Hey, Mikey, I'm smart!

[uponit7771]

11. Yeeeah, shit is getting thick if its being reported then they're saying 10 times more behind the ...

... scenes.

GOP is scrambling, get ready for president Pence

[rzemanfl]

15. Pence had to know. n/t

[uponit7771]

20. YEAP, ... bout to do an OP on this... that Pence can't say he didn't know shit... that would look

... just as bad as him saying he knew everything.

Fuck Pence

[duffyduff]

33. Pence can't get in there, either.

He is tainted for being on the ticket with Trump.

[KamaAina]

21. What about Ryan, McConnell, and Kerry?

If the first two knew, they are disqualified as well. That gets us onto safe ground in the Cabinet. If Kerry as SoS is somehow compromised, who's next? Kiefer Sutherland?

[uponit7771]

25. McMotherFuckah had to know something was wrong, he didn't have to make the statement but the

... they all could've quietly protected the voting machines which is the bigger part of the WAPO release; McFuckLips said no to protecting the voting machines and tabulators.

[Raster]

28. Comrade McConnell was part of the Gang of 12 that received the bi-partisan briefing...

...that Obama wanted leaders of Congress to have, and then wanted them to go public with the information.

Comrade McConnell specifically said that he would consider it a partisan effort to disrupt the presidential election and was NOT in favor of informing the American public.

Now, Comrade McConnell seems to have changed his tune. Charges of treason and threats of prison will do that to you.

[roamer65]

13. They can withhold it.

If there is reason to believe it will be compromised, they can operate on "need to know" basis exclusively.

[stevenleser]

24. For now, sure. Not if he is sworn in. nt

[Chasstev365]

17. Coup d'tate time?

He & Pence simply can NOT be allowed to take office!

[Warpy]

19. ABC is generally the most conservative of the Big Three

so yes, this means it's getting real and didn't conveniently disappear over the weekend like it was supposed to.

Thanks for posting this.

[ginnyinWI]

42. you think so?

I've been only watching ABC for the Sunday morning shows. The CBS guy on Face the Nation asks the questions but then has no facts or followup, and the repub walks away with the day. Over at ABC, George S. does try to nail them with the hard questions. And he knows his stuff. Just my own observation.

Oh, and NBC: lost cause!

We don't get cable anymore and good riddance.

Weekdays I watch PBS Newshour, which actually does investigative reporting! And NPR during the day.

[Barack_America]

23. This is an astonishing moment in American history.

[bdamomma]

30. Whose to say it's not already

going to the Kremlin, tRump is going to start a freaking war.

https://www.democracynow.org/shows/2016/12/12

I did post this Democracy Now show on the video forum please watch.

[jalan48]

32. Keep turning the heat up. We'll boil Trump eventually.

[Cha]

34. Well yeah, No shite! There are consequences to getting hacked

by the Russians and messing with our US Election.

I have an idea.. feed him false info and see what the Russians do with it.. like in the movies

Thanks for this, SHRED. At least the m$m is reporting on this.

[elmac]

35. Who ever reported that

will probably be doing local news at some gulag in a few months.

[Leghorn21]

37. Man oh man, this feels like the first pinch of genuine "hope"

I've had in like, a brazillion years, reading this!!!

Many thanks for posting, SHRED, and I'm gobbling up the replies here like a ravenous, wild-eyed carnivore! OH!

[pangaia]

54. Just wait until wed..it will all be forgotten

[Quixote1818]

38. It will because he will Tweet it to the world ten minutes later. nt

[brush]

39. WOW! Just take that in. The office of the presidency has been infiltrated by the Russians.

[AlexSFCA]

44. shame

it's a shame that trump went through primary. It should have never happened. I think GOP may have thought that he wasn't gonna win presidency so they went along with primary voters.

[brush]

50. Talk about incompetent, none of those 16 other candidates did oppo research on Trump

With just a little effort they could've turned up the p_ _ _y grabbing tape, or the Trump University mess, or a myriad of other Trump atrocities that would've stopped him in his tracks way before he got the nomination.

That party should never govern anything if their alleged 16 best can't do the very basics of running a campaign

[NewJeffCT]

62. I don't think anybody took him seriously at first

sure, he was an early leader in the polls, but surely his big fat mouth would doom him somewhere along the way. I mean, this is a guy who called Mexicans rapists, mocked a disabled person, insulted John McCain, insulted the looks of Carly Fiorina and also Ted Cruz's wife, etc.

Early on, I think Republicans were also going by the old Reagan adage of not speaking ill of fellow Republicans.

But, he kept going and going and by the time the primaries got her,e it was too late to stop him.

[brush]

70. I grant that early on he wasn't taken seriously but by the time the field was winnowed down to . . .

six or seven candidates at least one of them should have picked the phone and called their oppo research dept.

[AlexSFCA]

40. this is huge!!

I can see how many republicans will be so concerned now. It is no wonder Trump is not getting security briefings!

We are finally getting a breakthrough! Just think about it: NSA has all the information, e-mails, tax returns - everything, they can't release it legally so need beed to think outside of it.

I don't think Trump can wash away the dirt now. His legitimacy is forever tainted bypartisan! That's the key now - bipartisan concern!

[blue cat]

58. Some Republicans do not care.

In fact they seem tickled pink that Putin likes Trump.

[bucolic_frolic]

41. Exactly because borders

are only to be defended against Mooslims and Mexicans

but with your business partners it's wide open and information
is like a public bulletin board

Where were these guys in February?

[world wide wally]

43. Trump IS a Constitutional crisis

[AlexSFCA]

47. he is a threat to the world

Trump is a threat to American democracy, national and world security. If he gets inaugurated, I do not beleive for a nanosecond he would be impeached. If he is smart enough to get pass Jan.20, he will hold the entire GOP hostage. It is the most dangerous thought that he can get impeached.

[dooner]

45. Here's a link

http://abcnews.go.com/US/trumps-cia-rebukes-create-unprecedented-feud-intelligence-agencies/story?id=44154762

[SHRED]

46. Thanks I'll include that in my top post

[CitizenZero]

51. The Russian People Versus The Russian Government

I have seen some confusion over this even amongst more Liberal news figures, and I think that this is an important point to make- The Russian People are not our enemies, and they never were. It was the Communist Government that oppressed the Russian People and which was our enemy during the Cold War. The Russian People themselves were oppressed by the Communist System. Once that System was overthrown, it was hoped that the Russian People would get the only legitimate form of Government, which is a Constitutional Democracy.

Instead, what happened is that Russia was taken over by Oligarchs who are now under control of the Authoritarian Strong Man, Vladimir Putin. I point this out again because the Russian People deserve a Democracy, just like every other People and every other Nation. I have known a number of Russian People through my University, and they are all good people who desire a real Democracy in their own Homeland, and instead have Putin and his Cronies. So, our mutual enemy is Putin and his Thugs. Our allies there are all the Russian People who thirst for real democracy. The Russian People must be held separate from the Authoritarian Government that oppresses them and thus prevents real Freedom in that Country.

So, in sum, the Authoritarian Russian Government is our enemy, but the Russian People are not. The Russian People themselves suffer under Putin's Regime. That is why Trump likes Putin so much. It is because they are so alike. Both are narcissists see themselves as Authoritarian Strong Men with contempt for Democracy and real Freedom. It is important to make this distinction, because we should be working to help make Russia a Democracy by fighting Putin's Regime. We also must fight the anti-democratic Trump Regime at home as well. Russians who oppose Putin are natural allies to anyone who loves real freedom, and we should not write off an entire Nation that is suffering under the Putin Regime. So, Trump likes Putin, but I am sure he is dismissive of the Russian People who desire real democracy.

[Beartracks]

57. That's also why some Fox-heads swoon over Putin as a "real leader." n/t

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[nolabels]

60. And with a humorous note, many of us here are events of accidents

I also don't think there really could be such a thing as democracy, but i am at least willing to settle for representative government.

[marybourg]

52. I just listened to the report.

It was an ABC "Contributer" suggesting that the CIA "might" become concerned about data going to the ruskys. There was no attribution. Sounded like opinion to me.

[SHRED]

56. Just the fact that this segment aired...

....and this comment occurred is profound in my opinion and gives some hope that more info will be forthcoming.
He's fighting with the CIA. A losing battle most likely.

[uponit7771]

71. Yep... This is guessing... Waiting for leaks

[AgadorSparticus]

55. I have thought that for some time but for the IC to say that out loud...

WHOA. Must be some big stuff coming down the pipeline.

[colorado_ufo]

59. This may be why Trump avoids Daily Briefings.

Trying to escape being pressured by the Kremlin for information. What he doesn't know, he doesn't know.

[Randomthought]

63. plausible deniability

He knows; he wants to be able to say he didn't when the shit hits the fan.

[colorado_ufo]

64. That's the way he plays the game.

[PearliePoo2]

78. OMG! This is scary beyond words.

Gulp....

[malaise]

61. I was really shocked

at their objective coverage last night

[SHRED]

69. That's what got me too

[Takket]

67. CIA should stage a walkout

Refuse to work with the traitor.

[Jacob Boehme]

73. I only wish....

....this was the part in the script where Mulder and Scully unmask Trump as an alien creature masquerading as human and have him held in perpetual deep-freeze where he can't do damage.

Unfortunately however, this isn't a TV script so we must continue to unmask this pseudo-human ourselves.

[The_Casual_Observer]

76. It's worse than an Alien creature story, it's really happening without an invasion, he just walked

in and took over.

[triron]

77. knr

[Fast Walker 52]

79. Holy moly, I hadn't thought of that!

[lagomorph777]

83. He isn't bothering with US intel briefings anyway - he gets his intel from the KGB.

[benld74]

85. Give fake intel and see if it shows up as real

[lindysalsagal]

86. Exactly what I was thinking: Anyone who's seen the Bond films knows that move.

He's too clueless to know what's real or even realistic.

[keithbvadu2]

87. Might as well include the Russian ambassador in the intel briefings.

Might as well include the Russian ambassador in the intel briefings.

Save Trump the time to forward it to his bff Putin.

[LandrosT]

90. A real eye opener

Just when I thought Trump couldn't be any more of a piece of shit, he proves me wrong.

[Skittles]

92. THANKS RUSSIA AND TRUMP VOTERS

fucking ASSHOLES