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TomCADem

(17,382 posts)
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:32 AM Dec 2016

Would Trump Use A Terrorist Attack As a Pretext for Expanded Presidential Powers?

Trump is not only refusing to attend or read intelligence briefings, but he is also openly questioning the value and accuracy of U.S. intelligence. Given this almost aggressive indifference to national security, and his open hostility to the CIA, what would happen in the event of a terrorist attack. It would provide a perfect pretext for Trump to once again pat himself on the back for the attack, then use it as a pretext for expanding Presidential powers while also cleaning house within the U.S.'s national security agencies.

9/11 lead to rampant abuses by the Bush administration, which at least did not outwardly brag about engaging in torture. Trump has repeatedly said that he would do a lot worse in order to fight terrorism. I guess we may all find out.

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Would Trump Use A Terrorist Attack As a Pretext for Expanded Presidential Powers? (Original Post) TomCADem Dec 2016 OP
His handlers certainly will. It probably will happen The_Casual_Observer Dec 2016 #1
He would use a hangnail to justify expanding his powers. n/t LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2016 #2
Of course he would. subterranean Dec 2016 #3
no doubt AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #4
Bush did, so I wouldn't be surprised. sakabatou Dec 2016 #5
He doesn't have the ability to restrain himself. Judi Lynn Dec 2016 #6
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... well, don't get fooled again. tinrobot Dec 2016 #7
WE bdamomma Dec 2016 #27
You'll notice not one person in his cabinet can be called a patriot who would perform a noble act world wide wally Dec 2016 #8
Kind of accepted practice, I think. (eom) HassleCat Dec 2016 #9
wouldn't he? 0rganism Dec 2016 #10
Trump would use this post as a pretext to declare martial law. byronius Dec 2016 #11
It would play out EXACTLY like 9/11. Step by step: DetlefK Dec 2016 #12
your #6 bdamomma Dec 2016 #25
Trump would kill his own children to expand his powers rpannier Dec 2016 #13
He won't need an attack. He's Trump, his ego is going to demand it regardless. Solly Mack Dec 2016 #14
Trump Don't Need No RobinA Dec 2016 #29
I can hear him saying that. Solly Mack Dec 2016 #35
Yes and his " advisers "will be octoberlib Dec 2016 #15
And Pence (plus many others) would prefer a theocracy. nt Nay Dec 2016 #21
Does a bear shit in the woods? jmowreader Dec 2016 #16
Yes. SamKnause Dec 2016 #17
I wouldn't doubt anything evil he may do. montana_hazeleyes Dec 2016 #18
I'm 65 and this is the scariest shit I've ever seen, too. I also think Trump will Nay Dec 2016 #20
LOL of course he would canetoad Dec 2016 #19
keep his fingers off that button!!!! bdamomma Dec 2016 #22
He has no clue what the actual scope of presidental powers are Bettie Dec 2016 #23
He's probably got Mark Burnett working on the production already. Vinca Dec 2016 #24
Of course he will workinclasszero Dec 2016 #26
Wouldn't surprise me if the plans were finished in July. no_hypocrisy Dec 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author no_hypocrisy Dec 2016 #34
Yep! & ASAP! Madam45for2923 Dec 2016 #30
Possibly get the red out Dec 2016 #31
I fear that is the plan mcar Dec 2016 #32
all any terrorist organization has to do is car bomb some Trump hotels tibbiit Dec 2016 #33
I have no doubt that he will. Squinch Dec 2016 #36

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
4. no doubt
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:48 AM
Dec 2016

Exactly like Putin did in Russia. And with new biased administration and their own "news" you won't know the facts. That is why once Trump makes it beyond Jan. 20, I do not beleive he would
be impeached. So many people including politicians are still in such denial that things will get so much worse essentially terminating American democracy.

tinrobot

(10,885 posts)
7. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice... well, don't get fooled again.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:09 AM
Dec 2016

No question he would try.

The bigger question is would we let him?

I hope not.

0rganism

(23,924 posts)
10. wouldn't he?
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:33 AM
Dec 2016

i wonder if he's got his least favorite cities and states on a roulette wheel to see who gets to host his personal Reichstag fire, or if he goes by who pisses him off the most last week

byronius

(7,391 posts)
11. Trump would use this post as a pretext to declare martial law.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:03 AM
Dec 2016

Which he might after 1/20, if he actually gets to be president.

Oh god.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
12. It would play out EXACTLY like 9/11. Step by step:
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:07 AM
Dec 2016

1. President gets lazy with national security.
2. terror-attack
3. Republicans demand unquestioning loyalty to the President.
4. Blame Obama and Hillary Clinton.
5. Don't blame Trump, because he was barely in office, maybe a year or so.
6. profit

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
13. Trump would kill his own children to expand his powers
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:10 AM
Dec 2016

I don't think he has any limits on how far he would go to achieve, keep and expand them

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
14. He won't need an attack. He's Trump, his ego is going to demand it regardless.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:12 AM
Dec 2016

He'll say how silly or troublesome or bothersome it is to go through certain channels, and how, as president, he shouldn't have to.

His supporters will go along because, gee, he only wants to be able to do his job effectively.

RobinA

(9,886 posts)
29. Trump Don't Need No
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 09:18 AM
Dec 2016

Steenkin' Pretext. Losers need pretexts. Trump is a winner. He can do what he wants because he's smart, and right, and knows what needs to be done!

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
15. Yes and his " advisers "will be
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:25 AM
Dec 2016

cheering him on. Bannon, who wants to destroy both parties and Thiel who prefers a dictatorship to a presidency.

montana_hazeleyes

(3,424 posts)
18. I wouldn't doubt anything evil he may do.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:43 AM
Dec 2016

But how it looks to me now, he doesn't really have to. He will do what he wants, when he wants at will. And he will get away with everything with no problem.

How horrible to have such depressing, horrifying thoughts. But I'm 68 and this is the scariest sh!t I've seen. And I've lived through a lot.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
20. I'm 65 and this is the scariest shit I've ever seen, too. I also think Trump will
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 08:54 AM
Dec 2016

be able to do what ever addled thing he feels like doing, and the only thing we can hope for is that all the other sane countries will institute workarounds so no one goes over the edge and starts a war at the instigation of this moronic 'president.'

And the major problem is that the RW, racist, misogynist, theocratic Republicans have their greasy hands on everything now, and can really screw up the country royally for 4 years with literally no interference. I sure don't expect many Dems to stand up and fight; they seem totally helpless.

canetoad

(17,136 posts)
19. LOL of course he would
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 06:20 AM
Dec 2016

but it would be Bannon's doing or bannion's winged monkeys. Nothing is off the table since these arseholes have their pasty white hands on the workings of the most powerful country.

Bettie

(16,069 posts)
23. He has no clue what the actual scope of presidental powers are
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 09:04 AM
Dec 2016

so, he'll expand them simply because he thinks he is now king.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
26. Of course he will
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 09:06 AM
Dec 2016

And he will use the attack as a weapon against the CIA to either neuter it for his pal Putin or just pack it with braindead yes men.

Everything that was even halfway good in America dies on Jan 20 2017. Its Trump's world then.

People have no idea whats coming for this country.

Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #28)

tibbiit

(1,601 posts)
33. all any terrorist organization has to do is car bomb some Trump hotels
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 10:24 AM
Dec 2016

Do 5 or more at the same time on the same day. (Note:I am making this up because even to me, a regular American, it is the obvious thing to do) Attack Trump properties like Timothy McVeigh, you won't need airplanes to bring it on!
I bet that's how it will be done. PNAC for the late Teens! (2016-2019)

tib

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