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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsScientists are frantically copying U.S. climate data, fearing it might vanish under Trump
The efforts include a guerrilla archiving event in Toronto where experts will copy irreplaceable public data, meetings at the University of Pennsylvania focused on how to download as much federal data as possible in the coming weeks, and a collaboration of scientists and database experts who are compiling an online site to harbor scientific information.
Something that seemed a little paranoid to me before all of a sudden seems potentially realistic, or at least something youd want to hedge against, said Nick Santos, an environmental researcher at the University of California at Davis, who over the weekend began copying government climate data onto a nongovernment server, where it will remain available to the public. Doing this can only be a good thing. Hopefully they leave everything in place. But if not, were planning for that.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/energy-environment/wp/2016/12/13/scientists-are-frantically-copying-u-s-climate-data-fearing-it-might-vanish-under-trump/?postshare=3751481645413207&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.1c4ceeb9da3b
I hadn't considered that data might be destroyed, but I suppose it is a possibility. I have a feeling we're going back to the dark ages.
spanone
(135,795 posts)niyad
(113,086 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)here in the U.S. I was just blown away reading this this morning. I am just so grateful to these people for not being naive when the whole world really needed them to be wise.
niyad
(113,086 posts)suffragette
(12,232 posts)Very well said.
I am grateful, too.
mopinko
(70,023 posts)it will be interesting to track any changes or edits, to see what they use and what they ignore.
this is war, people. an information war.
niyad
(113,086 posts)Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)Russians interfered with our election.
They: "It happened on Obama's watch."
Climate change is real.
They: "No it's not."
Information is only as good as those hearing the information are able to think. Dark days ahead. Sorry, a bit gloomy today.
jabbothedog
(22 posts)so why would Trump? If the average Trump voter had to choose between his $25/hour carbon-producing job and a poverty-stricken coastal community, what do you think they would pick? If was even "maybe" lose his job to reduce climate change, the job wins. Most voters just don't care about the environment, especially someone else's environment, when there's even the possibility it will affect their wallet.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)mopinko
(70,023 posts)we need evidence. we need to know what they are doing and what affect it is having.
they will just stop capturing a lot of data. but some is needed by business, so it will stay up. whether that data is reported honestly is of utmost importance.
Baitball Blogger
(46,684 posts)The future is here! We are so fooked!
niyad
(113,086 posts)Calculating
(2,955 posts)Where fake news about Hillary being a satanist/running a pedophile ring is openly spread around the internet, and where basic scientific truths such as climate change will get you into trouble with a large amount of society.
eppur_se_muova
(36,247 posts)There's no question right-wingers will always try to destroy evidence of inconvenient facts, given the chance.
For a more worrisome precedent, consider that Chinese emperors, Egyptian pharaohs, and probably quite a few others, attempted to destroy all records of previous rulers, so that history would begin with their reign. Scholars who resisted the destruction of their libraries were put to the sword. Many ancient records survive only because dedicated monks hid copies of their most valuable works and refused to reveal their whereabouts even on pain of death.
Ford_Prefect
(7,873 posts)Ashcroft and the naked statues now seems like a bad joke in comparison.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)And to allow independent proof that the copy is unaltered and valid.
Otherwise, uncurated copies are essentially useless.
Buzz Clik
(38,437 posts)I doubt it.
Ford_Prefect
(7,873 posts)dawnie51
(959 posts)we heard about when governments fell, conquered places, during war, overseas. Never here, in this magical country of ours. I have lived to see the unthinkable. And I fear for my grandchildren.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)My guess is Trump will bring government-sponsored Lysenkoism back into high fashion.
Martin Eden
(12,847 posts)We are heading into a potential Orwellian nightmare.
Hekate
(90,565 posts)lame54
(35,268 posts)Like in Fahrenheit 451
bdamomma
(63,803 posts)what an ignorant stupid man. I wish he would just go somewhere else like under a rock.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,966 posts)Response to Arkansas Granny (Original post)
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