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Bloodless. Coup. (Original Post) CousinIT Dec 2016 OP
So. Far. Iggo Dec 2016 #1
Right Cosmocat Dec 2016 #5
actually, not bloodless. how many people have been assaulted by der drumpfenfuhrer's storm niyad Dec 2016 #2
It's certainly playing out this way. The sanctions will be lifted as soon as he is sworn in. The_Casual_Observer Dec 2016 #3
Nest MFM008 Dec 2016 #4
So Far Hekate Dec 2016 #6
Time to face it. The America we all knew and loved is over world wide wally Dec 2016 #7
It's absolutely done. Dumbass electors will put in the nail. CousinIT Dec 2016 #10
I agree. Let's do our best. Cheers! Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #11
i'm not sure it ever existed 0rganism Dec 2016 #14
Agree completely DeadLetterOffice Dec 2016 #24
Yep. Missn-Hitch Dec 2016 #8
Penalties for high treason jack69 Dec 2016 #9
There will be blood lame54 Dec 2016 #12
It won't be bloodless for long rurallib Dec 2016 #13
This will kill Obama's legacy... lame54 Dec 2016 #15
So according you it's Obama's fault that Trump is Prez elect? lunatica Dec 2016 #21
Putin successfully attacked our nation... lame54 Dec 2016 #31
No I can't say that hacking didn't happen lunatica Dec 2016 #34
Not a coup... brooklynite Dec 2016 #16
agree AlexSFCA Dec 2016 #19
"a republic with strong corporate influence." . . . CousinIT Dec 2016 #32
Because there wasn't any ONE reason. The polls were always close. LisaM Dec 2016 #22
When was this? KamaAina Dec 2016 #26
Earlier today. brooklynite Dec 2016 #27
A coup that has taken decades to shape. This isn't something that could have wiggs Dec 2016 #30
Oh, I think there will be plenty of blood, by and by. malthaussen Dec 2016 #17
Playing partisan politics if Obama went to the American people about SammyWinstonJack Dec 2016 #18
Pretentious hypocrisy. CousinIT Dec 2016 #20
Comey put the nail in our coffin world wide wally Dec 2016 #23
We can hope that the treasonous bastards all end up in jail or in front of the squad Angry Dragon Dec 2016 #25
Of the world's largest 100 economies, 63 are corporations. Oil and gas companies are wiggs Dec 2016 #28
Exxon is the 17th largest economy in the world. Of all economies, nations included. wiggs Dec 2016 #29
It was so easy. Not one shot fired. workinclasszero Dec 2016 #33

niyad

(113,020 posts)
2. actually, not bloodless. how many people have been assaulted by der drumpfenfuhrer's storm
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:42 PM
Dec 2016

troopers already?

 

The_Casual_Observer

(27,742 posts)
3. It's certainly playing out this way. The sanctions will be lifted as soon as he is sworn in.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 02:46 PM
Dec 2016

It's going to go on and on like this.

world wide wally

(21,734 posts)
7. Time to face it. The America we all knew and loved is over
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:47 PM
Dec 2016

I don't think we have the fortitude or ambition to start over…. and then again… this is what half of the American "patriots" wanted.
Good luck to that.

CousinIT

(9,217 posts)
10. It's absolutely done. Dumbass electors will put in the nail.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:50 PM
Dec 2016

We're finished.

I'm too old and tired to start over. Let the young ones wake up, get off their butts and fight for this country now.

I can't do it anymore.

0rganism

(23,916 posts)
14. i'm not sure it ever existed
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:57 PM
Dec 2016

i think many of us greatly overestimated the sanity and coherence of our fellow Americans

rurallib

(62,373 posts)
13. It won't be bloodless for long
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:56 PM
Dec 2016

lots of Americans will be dying after they lose their health care.
They will be dying in a battle they didn't even see coming

lame54

(35,259 posts)
15. This will kill Obama's legacy...
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:57 PM
Dec 2016

He won many battles during his term but lost the big one in the end

He has a month to turn it around

lame54

(35,259 posts)
31. Putin successfully attacked our nation...
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 09:18 PM
Dec 2016

And caused great damage

Can you say that didn't happen?

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
34. No I can't say that hacking didn't happen
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 04:39 PM
Dec 2016

but I can say it doesn't mean he 'attacked our nation'. but in any case your blame is sadly misplaced. There are plenty of eyes on the Putin cyberattack issue. That's how we know it happened.

brooklynite

(94,299 posts)
16. Not a coup...
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 03:57 PM
Dec 2016

...under the parameters of our political system, people voted for this.

I had a private post-mortem briefing for one of the rust-belt States Trump won; Russian involvement wasn't mentioned as a reason Hillary lost.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
19. agree
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 04:16 PM
Dec 2016

people voted for trump after it was reported that the russians hacked dnc. And Trump's strong pro-Putin stance was on full display since the primaries. He even changed the GOP platform on the issue of Crimea. This is not a coup because trump was very open about his admiration of putin as many republicans (they are obsessed with him).

It's no shock the republicans aren't interested in democracy - they would be totally fine with one party rule.

The issue is that we grossly overstimated our democracy. We are a republic with strong corporate influence. We will be more like Russia where opposition is suppressed, permits to protesters are denied and government controls all media. In trump's case - he will control media through corporations.

It is treason, only if you consider russia as foe. trump is positioning russia as a key ally and no longer a foe. Welcome to alt reality.

Within weeks of inauguration, we may witness lifting of all sanctions against russia and encouragement of investments into Russia. Sad times for human right but good for business I guess.

CousinIT

(9,217 posts)
32. "a republic with strong corporate influence." . . .
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:22 AM
Dec 2016

. . . is at best an Oligarchy.

US is and has been for decades an Oligarchy, bordering on full fascism (where corporations control the government)

LisaM

(27,792 posts)
22. Because there wasn't any ONE reason. The polls were always close.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 04:20 PM
Dec 2016

Only one thing was needed to tip the scale. Voter suppression, email nonsense, hacking BS that apparently only got leaked to hurt Hillary, the failure of the media to cover issues (in my opinion a large factor), the way the debate moderators fell down on their task - take away any one of those things, and the 77,000 vote gap that we, sadly, can't balance out with a 2.8 million vote advantage, vanishes.

Of course she should have won by double digits. So should Gore have. So should Kerry have. With the way the electoral college is set up, we have bigger hurdles than the GOP. It's unfair, it's been unfair for a while. It's difficult to combat a system that is set up to favor the opponent, especially when they get to knock people off the voter rolls at will. I know the Hillary camp worked to fight this, but it's a moving target.

If the only thing we have left at the moment is our voice, so we need to use it. If you have Republican reps, call and demand that they make sure things like Social Security, Medicare, and the environment are protected. If you have Democrats representing you, call and encourage them to hold the line.

wiggs

(7,809 posts)
30. A coup that has taken decades to shape. This isn't something that could have
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 06:20 PM
Dec 2016

happened because of a few hacks. It look a LOT of money over decades to deceive people, create false memes, corrupt or destroy honest useful media, destroy the middle class, create inequalities that led to the ability of the top 1% to control elections, place corporatists in power, create polarization and hate so that voters would vote against their own best interests, devalue education, etc.

'People voted for this' is to ignore a lot of what has happened intentionally.

malthaussen

(17,175 posts)
17. Oh, I think there will be plenty of blood, by and by.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 04:01 PM
Dec 2016

As others have already posted upthread. Bunch of pessimists, we.

-- Mal

SammyWinstonJack

(44,129 posts)
18. Playing partisan politics if Obama went to the American people about
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 04:07 PM
Dec 2016

Russian interference in the GE, but NOT partisan politics when FBI Director Comey comes out with nothing but BS email crap 11 days before the GE....

wiggs

(7,809 posts)
28. Of the world's largest 100 economies, 63 are corporations. Oil and gas companies are
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:41 PM
Dec 2016

among the most profitable in history. Oil and gas will own everything, including our government. Nearly free corporate reign for at least a few years, but the effects will be generational.

This is potentially a game-changing event in our country and probably for the world. The most powerful nation the world has seen is now wedded to the most profitable corporations the world has ever seen.

Rollerball here we come.

wiggs

(7,809 posts)
29. Exxon is the 17th largest economy in the world. Of all economies, nations included.
Tue Dec 13, 2016, 05:54 PM
Dec 2016
http://www.corporationsandhealth.org/2015/08/27/the-100-largest-governments-and-corporations-by-revenue/

Putin's Rosneft oil company is #70. Five of the 35 world's largest economies are oil companies. Nations included. These companies had
oil men and oil women (Rice) in W's administration and look what happened.

Think other nations and other top oil companies are worried about Exxon, USA, Russia, and Rosneft ruling the world?

Is this what PA, MI, and WI were thinking?



 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
33. It was so easy. Not one shot fired.
Wed Dec 14, 2016, 10:32 AM
Dec 2016

Vladimir Putin the dictator of Russia will be the de facto ruler of the USA on January 20, 2017.

Trump will be his figurehead/lackey/puppet. The Russians already control the FBI via the traitor Comey and Trump is freezing out the CIA which proves to me that they are...not yet...infiltrated and compromised by the Russians.

America dies the second Trump is sworn in as President.

God knows what he and Putin have in mind for us but without a doubt it's not going to be good.

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