Gov. Jerry Brown strikes defiant tone: California will launch its own damn satellite

[Coyotl]

Jerry Brown strikes defiant tone: ‘California will launch its own damn satellite’
http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article120928688.html

Gov. Jerry Brown, rallying a room of scientists Wednesday with his most heated rhetoric yet on the topic, suggested California would defy the federal government should President-elect Donald Trump impede the state’s efforts to thwart climate change.

“We’ve got the scientists, we’ve got the lawyers and we’re ready to fight. We’re ready to defend,” he said to boisterous applause at the American Geophysical Union conference in San Francisco.

Brown struck a more forceful tone than he has since the election, suggesting the energy and enthusiasm in the room for him would be needed in the “battles ahead.”

“Keep it up,” Brown implored the gathering. “Don’t flag. We’ve got a lot of work to do.”

At one point, Brown warned against proposed budget cuts under the new presidential administration that could effectively eliminate earth-observing satellite programs. ..............

[KamaAina]

1. The hoary "Governor Moonbeam" tag had nothing to do with New Age stuff.

Gov. Brown release 1.0 proposed a cutting-edge satellite system to reduce the need for travel to and from Sac. His detractors latched on to it, and "Gov. Monogram" was born.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

5. I told an old Republican co-worker how I supported Brown in 1992...

... over Bill Clinton (although I voted for Clinton in the GE), and he burst out laughing. I was expecting to hear the old "Moonbeam" nickname from him, but he surprised me. He said, "That guy dated Linda Ronstadt!"


That's when I laughed and asked him to elaborate, but he never did. I still don't understand it.

[C Moon]

11. I remember Brown's signs in the 1988 primary: "We the People Take America Back."

I've always like him.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

13. He limited campaign contributions to $100.

He tried that populist tactic long before Sanders.

He was criticized for proposing a flat tax (mostly to help fight tax write-offs and loopholes), and I admit that I didn't like that idea either at the time.

I still like Jerry Brown a lot! He did remarkably well against Bill Clinton despite very little advertising, and the media was biased against him too (at least that's how I felt). There hasn't really been a dramatic shift in politics between then and now.

EDIT: Many African American voters didn't support Sanders, much like they didn't support Jerry Brown in 1992. I won't pretend to understand it with supreme confidence, but I suspect that many AA's are suspicious of Democrats who talk too much about the increasing harm to the working class. Maybe an African American version of such a candidate would work?

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/09/opinion/the-myth-of-the-black-vote.html

Jerry Brown, the former California Governor, never exceeded 10 percent among blacks in the South. In Connecticut, however, he won 30 percent of the black vote. In New York he improved that showing somewhat, to 37 percent.

http://africanamericanvoterrep.org/aavrep-poll/

Seventy-one percent (71%) of black voters indicate support for Hillary Clinton, compared to Bernie Sanders, who garners 16% of the vote.

[Curtis]

21. He's one if my heroes

In 1988, I ran Jesse Jackson's campaign in San Diego county.

I did other work for the UFW that took me to Chino, CA.

In 1992, I met up with Jerry Brown and his people in Santa Monica when he announced his campaign for president. I sat and talked with him about working for him. The discussion turned to the Assembly district I lived in in the Chino area. It was a new district. Jerry urged me to run for the open seat. I did but lost in the primary after getting 22 percent in a three way primary (Brown got 22 percent in 92 also). I ran on the same campaign finance reform issues he did, but with my own state issues thrown in. I then did some work for a state Senator while doing consulting for the UFW and some other organizations. That state Sen was going to tap me when he was termed out in 1998, but i walked away from that life for reason I shouldn't have. Poor choice on my part.

However, Brown helped shoot me forward. I blew it and walked away. I'll always be great full to that man for his support.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

23. That's wonderful!!

You've done far more than me, and most people, in politics!

Jerry Brown strikes me as extremely sincere. I didn't do more than contribute to his campaign and vote for him in the 1992 Ohio primary, though. I still remember watching the first Democratic debate with my brother back then, and we both commented how Bill Clinton was "too slick" for our tastes -- specifically him above all others. That was long before we'd heard that nickname! We still voted for Clinton in the GE since he was the best choice.

[LisaM]

40. I was a Harkin supporter back then, but I remember noticing Bill Clinton in one of those debates.

Brown was going on about his $100 donation limit, and then he said, "if you want to donate, just call 1-800...
' whatever it was. Back then, the moderators were a little more committed to actual issues, and this one stepped in to say, excuse me, Governor, this is a debate, blah blah blah.

Bill Clinton impressed me at that moment because it didn't faze him in the least. He actually laughed, and he said, "that's okay, we all know the 800 number". It was that kind of resiliency that fostered a collegiality between him and his opponents that people latched onto, I think. Clinton was actually my 8th pick of the 9 candidates running at the beginning (I had Tsongas at the bottom), but his personality made it easy for me to vote for him when the time came.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

42. I remember when Brown mentioned that Clinton headed the DLC...

... (Democratic Leadership Council) in the previous couple years and how they raised lots of money from wealthy donors, but Bill usually wouldn't address it. He'd just smile and pivot.

Big money in politics bothered me back then too, and I also didn't like the effort of some Democrats (such as Bill) to make concessions to conservatives.

I wasn't surprised by welfare reform, passing NAFTA and other actions taken by Bill Clinton during his Presidency because the DLC supported them! They opposed single-payer healthcare reform and encouraged privatization of social security too.

I've seen some people try to rewrite history, as if political circumstances forced Bill Clinton to take certain actions as President, but the fact is that he'd went that direction before he was even elected.

I trusted Hillary Clinton on liberal ideas far more than her husband!

[LisaM]

48. I don't think NAFTA passed under Clinton - I think he just signed it.

IIRC, it was actually a George HW Bush thing, which is why Perot rode him on it in the debates ("that giant sucking sound you hear is your jobs going to Mexico!&quot Not that I agree with his signing it, though. Harkin wouldn't have signed it!

[Buckeye_Democrat]

49. I know. It just wasn't surprising that Bill signed it.

He aligned himself with the "Third Way" before he ran for President.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Leadership_Council

[DK504]

55. You and me both.

As much as everyone thinks is so wonderful he did some damage to the American economy. If it hadn't been for Al Gore bringing legislation to the floor of the Senate to make the internet public, he would have never had the tech boom and no recovery from the Bush recession.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

58. Maybe increased persoanl debt too.

I remember a bunch of co-workers pilling on credit card debt back then.

[C Moon]

26. Great story, Curtis. Thanks!

[pangaia]

27. That is a great story, if I can call it that.

I have always liked him as well...

[C Moon]

25. Wow. Didn't recall the $100 limit!

[tblue37]

53. He did date her. nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

54. I know, but that old guy surprised me by making that his main anti-Brown argument.

He clammed up and never explained it, and I quickly gave up asking him to do so. He was a pretty dumb and strange man.

He also surprised me later by saying that he supported Hillary Clinton in 2008 because "it's time we had a broad running things."

I laughed at his use of the word "broad" to describe her, not that he supported her (which I would've never guessed).

[NewJeffCT]

35. California has certainly turned around under Brown

after the disaster of Arnold leaving the state a $29 billion deficit.

He had one of the best TV ads ever in his run against Meg Whitman. A quote of her saying, "When I moved to California in xxxx, anything was possible." then, in text on the screen, "Who was governor in xxxx? Jerry Brown."

[Freeman0311]

51. Ranking

https://www.mercatus.org/statefiscalrankings/california

[NewJeffCT]

57. conservative organization

so, not exactly the most credible source.

[Freeman0311]

59. Good point

Google wasn't my friend




https://www.google.com/amp/www.governing.com/topics/politics/gov-state-economic-rankings-governor-ratings.html%3FAMP

[DK504]

56. Maybe this will push for Calexit!!

I sure as hell will be back in California soon so YEAAA!

[pbmus]

2. At least California is still sane..

[Coyotl]

32. And may soon be the nominal capital of liberal America.

A beacon of what government can and should be.

[roamer65]

3. California could do it.

6th largest economy in the world and you have aerospace industries and Vandenburg AFB.

[KamaAina]

6. And Elon Musk.

This has possibilities!

[Jean-Jacques Roussea]

9. And yet Trumpanzees use California to handwave the popular vote victory

I think it was a statistic from Maddow that said the majority of Trumpets don't believe Californians should have their votes counted.

[Crunchy Frog]

50. If they don't want their votes, they can do without their money as well.

[pangaia]

28. And a lot of veggies...

[phleshdef]

4. I wish he were 10-15 years younger...

[CountAllVotes]

7. Jerry Brown ran for President when he was in his 40's

and I saw him speak in his pin stripe suit shouting and screaming and what an impression he made.

A man before his time it was said in the late 1970s.

Today we need him more now than ever.

I am proud to say I've voted for him every single time he has ever run for ANY office except mayor of Oakland as I don't live in Oakland. If I did, he'd have had my vote then too!

Long live Gov. Jerry Brown, Jr.!

[phleshdef]

17. Yea, I remember that he ran before. I think he would do much better now.

[Coyotl]

33. He came to Oregon and I got to see him. It was all very real, not the usual pretensions.

I also got to meet Jesse Jackson in Oregon during his campaign. He was walking all by himself where I was promoting the first ever minimum wage initiative petition, so I turned him on the the idea of using initiative petitions to raise the minimum wage.

Try to imagine Trump walking by himself in Portland during his campaign!

[WheelWalker]

8. Defiance. That's exactly what I needed to hear. Resistance.

[jalan48]

10. Maybe he can be our Presidential Candidate in 2020.

We need some attitude.

[Adsos Letter]

12. He'd be 82 then.

Don't know if he'd want the stress at that point.

[jalan48]

16. I didn't know his age-thanks!

[Brother Buzz]

38. Coupled with the fact he's fighting cancer

He's had two flareups with prostate cancer since he returned to office. It's totally under control now, but being Governor is a walk in the park compared to the presidency.

[LeftInTX]

60. Prostate cancer killed my dad at 87

I hear that it rarely spreads, but it eventually went everywhere with my dad.

[Silver Gaia]

14. Wish he could... or would... but he's 78 now.

I don't think he would want to run for POTUS at 82. Such a shame, though.

We love our Gov. Brown, though! He is one smart and cool dude!

[jalan48]

15. Bummer-we need someone like him. Enough "Reaching across the aisle".

[roamer65]

19. ...or president of the California Republic...

[jalan48]

20. Can Oregon join?

[Silver Gaia]

29. Pacifica

[jalan48]

30. Sounds great.

[PasadenaTrudy]

36. Yes!

I'd love to live in Portland some day

[jalan48]

39. Thanks! Come on up!

Though we are in the middle of a big ice storm right now so summer might be better.

[PasadenaTrudy]

47. I was just there

for a week in Nov., lovely chilly weather! Coming back in May, staying in Sellwood again. Love it!

[Coyotl]

41. There are far nicer places in Oregon.

Away from the pollution and congestion. The whole Willamette Valley is polluted. I'm enjoying the inland central Coast.

[PasadenaTrudy]

46. We need the stimulation

of a real city. I'm an Angeleno and he's a New Yorker

[Coyotl]

34. Just what some Republicans may be trying to do, break up the USA to steal all the wealth.

With 50% of the land in the West owned by the feds, breaking up the federal government unleashes more mineral wealth than any other possible political change since they broke up the USSR.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

22. If he runs a populist campaign like he did in 1992, and Bernie in 2016, then...

... he probably won't win the African American vote in the Democratic primaries.

Why?

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/09/opinion/the-myth-of-the-black-vote.html
Jerry Brown, the former California Governor, never exceeded 10 percent among blacks in the South. In Connecticut, however, he won 30 percent of the black vote. In New York he improved that showing somewhat, to 37 percent.

http://africanamericanvoterrep.org/aavrep-poll/
Seventy-one percent (71%) of black voters indicate support for Hillary Clinton, compared to Bernie Sanders, who garners 16% of the vote.

[jalan48]

24. More conservative I would say.

[AlexSFCA]

18. so proud

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of our governor and Gavin Newsom is next!
Caifornia has now has democrat supermajorities in the state house/senate and it is enormous responsibility to demonstrate to the rest of the US that our economy does better!

[Coyotl]

31. Morning kick.

[harun]

37. California has enormous power, glad to see them wield it.

[bhowle]

45. Ecotopia Rising !

[Crash2Parties]

52. Just wait until he tells the Feds we're going state level single payer health care...and he's

...going to make them pay for it.