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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 10:07 AM Dec 2016

Sanders town hall spotlighted the type of politics we need to beat Trump

Power and Persuasion
Bernie Sanders’s nationally televised town hall spotlighted the type of politics we need to beat Trump.
Jedediah Purdy
Jacobin Magazine

Most people, unlike academics and political professionals, tend not to have stable sets of policy views that line them up for or against what Sanders calls democratic socialism (or any other ideology, for that matter). They have experiences — frequently of frustration, often of disrespect. They have, too, a sense of friends and enemies.

At the first cut, what Sanders’s interlocutors thought about social spending depended on whether it would serve their enemies, as Gail Sparks seemed to start out suspecting, or make their enemies pay their fair share, as she concluded when Sanders brought her around to “it’s time they put back.”

Sanders’s comfort with the languages of friends and enemies doesn’t mean he descended into a Trumpist festival of enmity. (Trump rallies were rhetorical first-person-shooter games in which the candidate smoked a series of internal and external enemies.) Over and over, Sanders posed principles, often as questions or as expressions of his own conviction. Do you think Medicare and Social Security should not be cut? Do you think it’s unfair to ask the wealthy to pay more in taxes? “I think it’s grossly unfair that working-class kids do not have the income to pay for college.”

Sanders was striving to bring the Kenosha audience into a principled discussion, but he clearly knew that, to make that happen, he had to convince people of the principles they might share. These were not abstract points of political theory, but concrete demands on the state and other citizens, rooted in a sense of what you need, and where you might get it.

The core point of universalist programs is to turn legitimate self-interest into a common interest, and, through the expansion of social rights (housing, education, health care), to relax the paranoiac worry that someone else, probably less deserving, is sneaking off with your share.

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Sanders town hall spotlighted the type of politics we need to beat Trump (Original Post) portlander23 Dec 2016 OP
Bernie did an excellent job. SamKnause Dec 2016 #1
Purdy completely whitewashes the racism that permeated the entire Trump campaign Blue_Tires Dec 2016 #2
I watched about 40 minutes of it before I couldn't handle the people on the panel anymore... TCJ70 Dec 2016 #3

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
2. Purdy completely whitewashes the racism that permeated the entire Trump campaign
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 12:36 PM
Dec 2016

And it is a disservice to believe that these people voted for Trump truly believing he would make their lives better economically. The GOP has been running things in Madison for awhile now; how is that working out for them?? They wanted their TV personality anti-candidate, and that's what we're all stuck with. This will go down as the first presidential election where nuts-and-bolts policy didn't matter to voters, or the media...

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
3. I watched about 40 minutes of it before I couldn't handle the people on the panel anymore...
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 12:39 PM
Dec 2016

...the fact that they voted for someone they didn't even believe boggles my mind. Also, the "start a dialog" guy I wanted to smack. You can't have a dialog with someone who constantly lies to you, at least not a productive one.

EDIT: Props to Bernie for being ready, willing, and able to reach out to these people. It takes a level of patience that I have not yet achieved.

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