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Ford_Prefect

(7,886 posts)
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 02:29 PM Dec 2016

Has anyone considered what a Trump administration will do to the Post Office?

Not to mention Museums, the Library of Congress and other public institutions?

Ashcroft merely covered the statues he found offensive. The kinds of people put forward for agency heads thus far make me worry that they might rewrite history and redact documents if not destroy them.

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unblock

(52,196 posts)
3. that's the case for much of the disaster that is to come. trump is just a distraction.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 02:39 PM
Dec 2016

yes, trump is likely to do horrible things that a run-of-the-mill republican president might not.

but the real problem is that republicans now control everything, and will use that to loot the treasury and screw up this country. they'll pull every wet dream piece of legislation off the shelf and turn it into horrible law.

visit national parks while you can, enjoy what's left of our clean water and air, prepare for cuts in services that hurt us and cuts in taxes that only help them.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
2. Same as Runny RayGun did to PATCO.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 02:34 PM
Dec 2016



Just for starters.

And it is controlled by Presidential appointees and the Postmaster General.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. I think business would raise heck if they had to pay Fedex/UPS rates to send junk mail
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 02:44 PM
Dec 2016

across town. I'm sure there will be attempts at privatization, but most folks like the Post Office.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
7. Who would a privatized post office hurt most?
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 02:59 PM
Dec 2016

The very people who voted for this idiot. All of the midwest which a lot is rural. You think those people will have a mail carrier driving out to the farm to deliver mail for free? Will their letters still cost 46 cents to mail with a privatized postal service.

They'll be screaming about it when it happens but, hey, at least they don't have to worry about ISIS wandering around the backroads cutting their heads off or Muslims blowing up the feed store when they're there.

brush

(53,764 posts)
9. They'll try to gut it and put it out of business. If they're successful . . .
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:07 PM
Dec 2016

we'll all be picking up and mailing our $5.00 letters at FEDEX and UPS centralized facilities.

People in rural areas will be even worse off as those private companies down have near the capacity to reach every address in the country like the Post Office does.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
11. I was just thinking about that this morning.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:20 PM
Dec 2016

My family member who voted for trump cuz killin babbies recently retired from USPS on a nice pension (that was pared down for newcomers in the Bush years). I wondered if her pension and insurance would be gutted.

She also was a big fan of Issa (pursuing Hillary ) except for you know, that post office thing Issa pushed for years.

haele

(12,647 posts)
12. Well, developers want Post office property. However, it costs shipping companies more
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:21 PM
Dec 2016

not to have a government post office to handle the majority of letter and media mail, the suburban and rural mail end of delivery leg, maintaining legal addresses and zip codes, and other standard functions that the Post Office handles by law. Email, even sending pdfs, is not the same as a letter in terms of a tangible, legal document, and won't be for a significant amount of time. It's so much easier to counterfeit an email or pdf...

If a business or contractor was to provide any or all of the services the U.S. Post Office provides, they couldn't stay in business without some sort of major federal subsidy.
While Kleptocrats - the GOP - love that sort of privatization, the taxpayers can't support the waste, fraud, and abuse that sort of contract will be rife with for any length of time.

I am always amazed with the amount of people who will put up with what privatization of common services does - increased expenses to "customers" due to the middleman effect, services become harder to access and fewer in number, increased costs to support a minimum acceptable level of profit just to provide the service, finally, fewer employees who know how to do their jobs working for lower wages and benefits than when there was a government employee.
And f-all with the common lie that "you can't fire a government employee" - government employees are fired for cause or furloughed all the time - at just about the same rate that union workers and private business employees are fired for cause or laid off. The only protection government employees have that private business employees don't is that to fire a government employee after the posted 6 month or year long probationary period is over, there is a requirement to have a documented reason other than "pissed off the new boss/don't like the employee".
And if they're not working out during the probationary period, they're gone, just like every other worker in this country is.

I don't think FedEx, UPS, DLS et all want USPS to go away - it will overwhelm their profit margins to handle first class and third class mail that isn't priority or overnight, not to mention zip codes.

What I do think is that developers and investors want to get into the USPS so as to sell off the assets and walk away, assuming that FedEx, UPS, DLS and other courier services will be happy step in and handle the all the unprofitable USPS work with minimum wage contractors for a tax break.
The Census Bureau or DoI will probably be stuck with maintaining zip codes and legal address registry.

Haele

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