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raccoon

(31,105 posts)
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:12 PM Dec 2016

Frost heaves. Being from the sun belt, I never knew of them until

a few years ago I saw something about them on the Internet.

I was asking a friend from Indiana about them and she seemed clueless.
Do they only happen in extremely cold places?

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Frost heaves. Being from the sun belt, I never knew of them until (Original Post) raccoon Dec 2016 OP
I grew up in the south and never heard of them citood Dec 2016 #1
Southern Arizona builder here---the frost line is about 2 inches. panader0 Dec 2016 #6
I've designed water lines in North Dakota citood Dec 2016 #7
Rocks from the depths of hell pipi_k Dec 2016 #10
Build something with them. MineralMan Dec 2016 #12
Frost heaving! The forest soil path to my cabin in the woods has frost heave right now! PearliePoo2 Dec 2016 #2
Since they require freezing temperatures 2naSalit Dec 2016 #3
Pretty common here in Minnesota. MineralMan Dec 2016 #4
That's why we put the posts in our chain link fence in bell shaped concrete. shraby Dec 2016 #8
Yup. That's what I did, too. MineralMan Dec 2016 #11
Of course it happens in extremely cold places.. pangaia Dec 2016 #5
Common in N.E. Wisconsin Greybnk48 Dec 2016 #9

citood

(550 posts)
1. I grew up in the south and never heard of them
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:18 PM
Dec 2016

until I visited family in MN as a kid. My uncle was a farmer and was talking about his annual spring task of collecting all the new rocks in his field, to prevent damage to his plow.

Frost heaving can happen about anywhere it gets below freezing, and certainly can happen in Indiana - the building code requirement on footing depths is usually a good indicator of how deep in the ground frost can go in a locality.

Here in Kansas, I staked the bottom of a chicken wire fence to the ground to stop rabbits...and in no time the frost had pushed the stakes up several inches.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
6. Southern Arizona builder here---the frost line is about 2 inches.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:09 PM
Dec 2016

But I have worked in colder climes where the frost line was over a foot.
I imagine in some places it's more than double that.

citood

(550 posts)
7. I've designed water lines in North Dakota
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 05:14 PM
Dec 2016

And was surprised that their requirement is for the line to be 8 feet deep, to ensure being below frost.

pipi_k

(21,020 posts)
10. Rocks from the depths of hell
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 07:56 PM
Dec 2016

That's what happens at my house.

Dig up rocks and small boulders...ground is clear of stones.


Next summer it's full of rocks and boulders again. Like they've been breeding all winter.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
2. Frost heaving! The forest soil path to my cabin in the woods has frost heave right now!
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:18 PM
Dec 2016

Ample moisture in the ground followed by freezing temps is the recipe as far as I know.

2naSalit

(86,308 posts)
3. Since they require freezing temperatures
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:44 PM
Dec 2016

yeah, they require at least as much cold as will freeze the ground and the water in it. It is the expansion of the frozen water in the soil that creates the distortion in the pavement on top of it.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frost_heaving

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
4. Pretty common here in Minnesota.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 03:52 PM
Dec 2016

There's a chain link fence near my house that has seen all of its posts and their concrete pushed up over 10" over the years. It's pretty funny looking, with chunks of what was buried concrete up above the ground.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
8. That's why we put the posts in our chain link fence in bell shaped concrete.
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 06:56 PM
Dec 2016

The shape helps keep the posts from popping up.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
5. Of course it happens in extremely cold places..
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 04:25 PM
Dec 2016

Depending of course on what you call extreme.


How can there be frost if there is not cold?

Actually frost is the wrong word,
It should be something like freeze heaves.

Right now where I am it is 14 F.. not so bad..

Greybnk48

(10,162 posts)
9. Common in N.E. Wisconsin
Fri Dec 16, 2016, 07:48 PM
Dec 2016

when it gets very cold. They were so bad about two years ago, a couple of times the loud bangs startled us.

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