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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat are you doing to prepare for the next administration?
I am getting my passport renewed - just in case.
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)HassleCat
(6,409 posts)That wall works both directions. Just ask the people of Berlin.
putitinD
(1,551 posts)DFW
(54,269 posts)I'll stay involved, but for now, mostly as a spectator sport.
Sigh...
But even Europe may not be safe...
DFW
(54,269 posts)But in some countries there are safeguards. The possibility of Germany electing a Trump as Bundeskanzler is still practically zero. Even Poland's rightist government seems tame compared with some of the governors we have back home. It's bad enough that we have governors like LePage, Walker, Snyder, Scott, Abbott and Brownback, to name a few. But the fact that we are allowing Trumppence to rule our land for the next four years baffles just about everyone except the Russians.
mnhtnbb
(31,372 posts)I have been trying to get my husband to agree to sell our house--no mortgage--
and move. I no longer want to be in North Carolina. But for a number of reasons
he's not willing to agree...yet.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)You have my sympathy.
There is some serious crap going on there. Have you joined in with the resistance?
Good luck with your moving project, including the husband.
mnhtnbb
(31,372 posts)but I'm with them in spirit.
I did write a LTTE this morning calling out the Republicans for their special session which
should have been about repealing HB 2 but instead was used to double down against democracy.
There are health issues involved with my husband. If it were me alone, I'd be outta' here in a NY minute
as I am 65 and I'd like to live out my life somewhere not surrounded by gun nuts and bigots and fearing
a nuclear attack. My husband is in a different place--at 74--in the early stages of a progressive, degenerative neurological
disease for which there is no cure. Life is never easy.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)Don't they have super majority in at least one statehouse that can even override a veto? What more do they need for goodness sake?
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)But, I looked up the NC legislature website and counted.
House Reps. - 80 - Republicans. 49 - Democrats
Senate - 36 Republicans. 18 Democrats
Federal Reps. 10 - Repub. 3 - Dems.
Senators are both Republicans.
All Republicans are white. The Dems are mixed.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)And your last sentence says it all.
cpmx2006
(35 posts)Rick Santelli said on MTP this morning he does not see anything wrong with the shit the Rethugs r doing in NC. ASSHOLE!!!!!
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)Skittles
(153,111 posts)and I will never run - I will ALWAYS fight the fascist bastards
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)I too will fight
RKP5637
(67,084 posts)RKP5637
(67,084 posts)that looking at Trump's appointees. The MIC says do it, so we can make big bucks off your kids deaths.
Mika
(17,751 posts)Charlie Rangel sponsored several draft registration bills - for the very reason of getting every family involved in our perpetual wars, with the intent to stop them.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)That is what I heard, if there is a draft.
RKP5637
(67,084 posts)of the MIC. Death for profit! And then families support their kids going to war, because it's well, the patriotic thing to do! And the MIC sits back and counts $$$$$'s
So damn many Americans just don't get how F'en propagandized they are. It's so damn disgusting.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)The republicans are happy to farm out war to private contractors that are largely unaccountable to the military chain of command.
Calculating
(2,955 posts)Even the people currently serving in the military don't want one. Do you really want a guy who doesn't wanna be there watching your back in the field?
RKP5637
(67,084 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Particularly when all you have to do is provide few enough other jobs and opportunities for our youth that they HAVE to join. This gives the added benefit that Skip and Buff, the country club kids, don't have to risk their asses.
It's a win-win all around!
C_U_L8R
(44,985 posts)especially locally. Do what you can.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)I can do besides working hard in pursuing a graduate degree, and find a job with a handsome salary when I'm done with school. My family doesn't have the money to move out of the country. We do live in CA, but we still have to hope that Trump and the GOP fail at slashing government benefits.
Cha
(296,780 posts)Fortunate you live in California!
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)York.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)back to the midwest.
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)I'm in Ohio and am scared shitless about what is going on.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Checking out apartments in Helsinki and elsewhere.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Last edited Sun Dec 18, 2016, 02:06 PM - Edit history (1)
I actually HAVE done some of that as well...
WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)these uncertain times!
I'm thinking of going back to my childhood routine when we were living in Europe right after the war...we kept a suitcase under our beds and we would periodically change out the clothes to match our growing bodies. I won't need to change out the clothes so often, but I think that being ready to leave at a moment's notice might be appropriate. Of course, all my friends think I'm over the top on this.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)She has enough money for whatever happens.
I wish I did.
If the shit hits the fan, they will either leave, "OR just stay in the newest country in the world.. PACIFICA !!
Crash2Parties
(6,017 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Yonnie3
(17,419 posts)My passport is always ready so no need for action there.
I'm retired from full time work, so I figure out how much cash I need in my accounts for next year and re-balance the remaining retirement investments in a slightly more conservative allocation. I've allocated more to the cash than usual, both in case of a sustained down market and because I want extra to contribute to ACLU and any other groups that fight to keep this government in check.
metroins
(2,550 posts)I'm just insulating my business, creating as many streams of income and giving much less to charity and helping other people.
Literally only looking out for number 1 and my family until the next election.
Spending a little less.
Pachamama
(16,884 posts)But I am thinking of getting a new one that expires in 2027 - and issues before January 20th.
Also glad to have German Citizenship - that may become my back-up plan
mnhtnbb
(31,372 posts)Only took 2 weeks (didn't pay for the expedited service, either).
Lucky you to have German citizenship.
riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)While the fascist reign.
No more NASCAR or vacations in the states. I will be looking at vacations in the islands, Canada and Europe.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... and I'm hearing this more and more frequently from Canadian friends - they are cancelling all plans to visit the US - some of whom usually do so several times a year.
The reason they most often cite is that they can see tensions rising in the US on a daily basis now, and assume it will get progressively worse - and they don't want to be anywhere where people have easy access to guns. They're not afraid of Trump - they are afraid of how citizens are going to react to Trump, and the fact that a lot of those citizens are armed.
riverbendviewgal
(4,252 posts)I guess you must be dreaming of California today, weather wise.
I live up in rural northern Ontario. Plenty of believers of fake news and also snowbirds that are not concerned live up here. I am concerned of a contrived "attack" , especially after reading this in raw story.
"A dire prediction in Trump's first 100 days".
I can't copy and paste the link in my tablet.
NanceGreggs
(27,813 posts)... so weather-wise, I'm a happy camper right now!
The Canadians I hear not wanting to go to the States now - it's not any kind of organized attack they fear; it's the random gun carrier who gets riled in the middle of a coffee shop, or in a crowded parking lot.
They figure that the tensions caused by this election are going to escalate - and they don't want to be "collateral damage" when bullets start flying.
maveric
(16,445 posts)I feel that it may end up like the christening scene from The Godfather. Heads may roll as he takes the oath. Enjoy! 👍
LeftInTX
(25,106 posts)I don't have much of an option.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)sarisataka
(18,472 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,711 posts)resistance2016
(86 posts)I know I'll never finish it, but at least I'll have something to do for the next few months before it all comes crashing down.
The_Voice_of_Reason
(274 posts)Renewing my passport, contemplating selling everything, buying a camper and making myself disappear.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)your activism is needed.
Laffy Kat
(16,366 posts)With the covers pulled over my head. Oh, and Netflix; I watch a lot of Netflix. Sometimes I also cry. But!: I am organizing a car pool to the Women's March in Denver on January 21st. That should count for something.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,864 posts)Nwgirl503
(406 posts)Not to "move" or immigrate, just stay for as long as I can at a time. I've set up my business so I telecommute. I've been in Mexico for almost 3 months and each day that goes by staying here sounds like a better and better idea.
I don't even have to go back to the states to keep my visitor status. I just need to cross any border every 6 months. It's beautiful, cheap and the only trumpers I run into are few and far between on the beach.
What happens before inauguration day will help me make up my mind. One part of me wants to go home and fight. The other doesn't. I don't know. Been feeling very discouraged about what I'd be fighting for based on the developments over the last few days.
mnhtnbb
(31,372 posts)I know there are some very popular spots for ex-pats in Mexico.
Nwgirl503
(406 posts)The expat community is quite large in the tiny town I'm in.
safeinOhio
(32,633 posts)Taking advantage of stock market high and selling. Also buying gold while it's cheap. Every thing is paid off and I can head out the door to hunt and fish.
calguy
(5,290 posts)Selling high is a great way to get out. However much money can be made selling short into a market crash.
If you aren't familiar with short selling, I recommend it highly. I made huge profits during the Bush meltdown. Trump should offer the same opportunities at some point.
maxrandb
(15,294 posts)On my local wingnut radio station. You know saying "wingnut radio station" is no longer necessary. You can just say radio station.
I don't even care if the companies have said they won't buy ad time during Limbaugh's show. If they advertise during the Saturday morning fishing show that's on the same station as Limbaugh they are still supporting and validating hatred
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)PasadenaTrudy
(3,998 posts)Life goes on for us. Go to work, walk the dog, travel.
sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)Expanding my professional skillset to be more attractive if I did decide to leave the country.
Putting off selling my house and moving--for now.
Stocking the cabinets.
Getting a gun. That is probably the most shocking.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Another person in this thread also said they are getting a gun.
I'm curious, why?
workinclasszero
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Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)How is this different from radical IS? So sad to see people believing such extremism.
In regards to my question of why get a gun? I truly was curious as to the motive. I guess the overall answer would be for protection, hunting animals or for a hobby. I see your point, which is, for protection from fools like in this video.
If fools like this act upon their rhetoric, people will be harmed. Yet, I also believe, love always wins.
Freethinker65
(9,998 posts)Pulling some money out of the market.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)which is interesting. Seems like there are general fears the economy will crash with all his idiotic ideas being implemented.
lapfog_1
(29,189 posts)YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)And fight these assholes.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Which tends to have real news as opposed to the MSM. Also planning to prepare for 2018, making sure the Democrat party of Florida stops being a joke, and does not nominate certain people to the governors election.
Mainly, I will watch the Trump voters in my family scream once their favorite oxes get gored, and do a mix of two thing, once, enjoy a very well deserved dish of "hate to say I told you so!"..but also work with the to show them that Trump and the GOP were lying to them, and that the next election is the best chance to get even. Granted, the churches will try to blow smoke uop their ass, but once Trump bites into their wallet, they will see things differently.
kskiska
(27,045 posts)nevergiveup
(4,755 posts)democratisphere
(17,235 posts)fallout shelter from the 1960's.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)So I plan to be at Ground Zero when the shit comes down.
I just reread "Alas, Babylon" by Pat Frank. I don't want to be one of the survivors.
RegexReader
(416 posts)consider supporting #caliexit with a few dollars so that there is a progressive safe space to move to.
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)KG
(28,751 posts)I'm going offer lame justifications when dems fail to act as an opposition party to the whacky shit that's sure to come up for votes in congress the next 4 years.
KatyMan
(4,175 posts)and making plans to move to County Kerry in 2 years. We were going to go anyway when Mrs Katyman retires in 5 years but Trump has moved up our timeline.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)I have no savings, laughably little retirement. My wife and I have been marginally employed for nearly a decade. We barely make it paycheck to paycheck, and I know that the incoming administration is going to make even that impossible. Our resources were depleted a long tome ago, so the best I can do is just roll with it until it finally kills me.
The Republicans historically forget that when you leave someone with nothing, you leave them with nothing to lose. Things are going to start hurting very badly for a great many Americans, including his most ardent followers. The Bush administration just provided a taste of what's in store for us.
Donald Trump appears to adore Benito Mussolini. He should look up what happened to Benito and his family once the bloom came off. It wasn't very pleasant.
madokie
(51,076 posts)so I can bend over and kiss my ass goodbye,
still_one
(92,060 posts)no MSNBC, no fox, no CNBC.
I then made a donation to the ACLU and Planned Parenthood.
I sat down and wrote a letter to my Senators and representative, and also wrote a letter to Schumer, telling them all that I expect them to fight for the Safety Net Programs, women's rights, civil rights, labor rights, environmental rights, and that includes blocking appointments that represent racist, sexist, and xenophobic policies.
My passport is all up to date, but realistically, places like Canada are not that easy to get into as a permanent resident
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)All good actions. Thanks.
I think we learn from what each other does, and empower each other.
still_one
(92,060 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)The more people who hate him, the more he gets mad, the stupider he gets, and better for us in midterms. I shall also bother his fans by pointing out that they are idiots for being conned, then laugh at them and act like I know secret they don't know and be really awesome at all times.
I like pointing out his plans for SS and Medicare, then reminding my white republicanfriends who seem to think white folks are not on entitlement programs, that the money they live on is an entitlement. Then I like asking them, "Damn, so, what y'all gon do? I never expected to get mine but, how you gonna vote yourself out of your own money? Either you rich or you crazy, either way, youfinna be broke just like the rest of us soon.' It scares the absolute shit out of them. I am not sure why.
I also will keep pointing out how BAD getting rid of these programs are gonna be for, drumroll please.... White people!!! Seeing how they are the majority of folks on poverty programs and SS and medicare. Funny thing? When I tell them that welfare has majority white recipients, they cannot believe me. I like to remind them that the nation was waywayway whiter when our elderly were young and that it's real sad that they voted to toss their own white grandpeople out on the streets with no money or healthcare. Plus, everbody know blackfolks bring they old folks home to live with fambam, so, what yall gonna do when granny cant pay for her subsidized elderly housing and medical coverage?
I like to do this one person at a time. It scares the shit out of them in a way it never did before Trump won. I had a guy said I was attacking him and hoping his gran-gran got kicked on the streets... I told him no, of course not, I voted for Hillary. You voted to rob your granny and give it to king Trump. Own it. Man up and own your shit. And yes, he fucking scammed you. Still love him? If you do, your dumb.
That's my plan. Passive aggressive activity designed to make his fans hate him. Lucky for me I live in a Trump state so I have neighbors and aquaintences all over town that were allbout it bout it over Trump who now GROAN and MOAN and tell me I'm 'not being FAIR!!!', when I bring up. My Trumpism of the day. I want his name to piss them off. I enjoy it.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)sure Trump only gets one term. I will not leave the US, without a presence here I can not continue to fight.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)We have to get smart and take back our states and redraw those district lines. Anything else is failure.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)I will fight as long as possible.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)country.
Different Drummer
(7,597 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)your emoji-comment of death was your "666" number of posts?
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,711 posts)No not to be part of some armed resistance. Rather because some Trump humpers have shown themselves to be unstable.
I don't like it but if it comes down to me or one of those nut cases I'd rather that it be them.
briv1016
(1,570 posts)It started as a way to reduce stress at work, but I have a feeling it's going to be have other uses.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)LeftyMom
(49,212 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,798 posts)by the case. Or the carload.
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meadowlander
(4,387 posts)Warpy
(111,124 posts)I've kept one since the Reagan years but never had time, health and money all at the same time.
yuiyoshida
(41,818 posts)I will be looking for the newest store, near by that sells Marijuana legally. Other than that, I am not going to worry about anything...Our Governor has our backs!
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