Can the "2016 Postmortem" be ended?

[rzemanfl]

The corpse is stinking up the place. Thousands of cuts have been made. People who want to engage in flagellation could do that in "Religion & Spirituality."

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	17 (71%)
	No, the disection has barely begun.
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[uppityperson]

1. When admin so chooses. In the meantime, hide it.

[rzemanfl]

3. Authoritarian? n/t

[uppityperson]

4. Not at all. Relinquishing authority to those who own and run the site. I'm a guest, if they tell me

take off my shoes when entering, I'll do so or else not enter.

[rzemanfl]

7. I never thought of myself as a guest here. Lately it has felt like jury duty. n/t

[uppityperson]

10. I've taken breaks before, when it gets too much. And avoided certain forums. LBN is good

with a bunch of people gathering information.

Sometimes some of the forums get a bit weird, but it's not my forum.

[11 Bravo]

18. There's a way around that. And as for the question posed ...

in the OP, perhaps you could at least hang in there until 2016 was actually ... you know ... over?

[rzemanfl]

34. So you're suggesting the autopsy began early? Ouch! n/t

[metroins]

2. I agree

I have personally gotten it out of my system.

[JI7]

5. it will just end up in GD if that forum is down.

[rzemanfl]

9. It would be like visiting the cemetery instead of the morgue. n/t

[JHan]

6. It's Cathartic, your post made me laugh though... so rec'd.

[rzemanfl]

8. Thanks but the Christmas buzzard thing is far funnier. n/t

[Cha]

11. Hopefully they'll be doing post mortem's until

12/31/16.. and then on 1/1/17 it will be mortem.

Only 18 more days. And, then we can move forward onto the Resistance and Fight drumpfuck and the damn primary will be over.

[TexasProgresive]

12. If it bothers you so much

Click on the forum and trash it.

[crazycatlady]

13. It is a discussion that needs to be had

The Democratic Party made a lot of mistakes in 2016. It is a venue to discuss those mistakes and (hopefully) learn from them for future elections.

Personally, I avoided any news about the election until after Thanksgiving because the wounds were too raw for me. I'm just now emotionally able to read all of this and pick it apart.

[LWolf]

17. While I agree with what you are saying,

I don't think it's going to happen at DU.

Too many are looking for outside agencies to blame, determined not to engage in self-reflection or to change business as usual. If people really wanted to have that discussion, I think it would be good for Democrats and for the Party, as well as for DU.

I don't think DU wants to have that kind of honest, open discussion.

While I've talked a bit, the only in-depth discussions I've had are with family, because we listen to one another and still love and respect each other when we disagree. It was only there that I've been able to say what I really think and feel.

I will say that the foremost response I've had is one of unadulterated rage. I wasn't shocked; I predicted this numerous times over the last year. I hoped desperately I was wrong. I knew I wasn't when I went to bed on election night, before all the results were in, and I spent the next weeks in silent rage, afraid to respond to all the shock and awe and dismay around me because I didn't want to lash out at people.

[uponit7771]

14. +1, especially after Russia, Comey and Voter suppression are valid factors that SHOULD not be in

... the equation

[Coventina]

15. As long as people want to post there, what's the harm?

[DrDan]

16. some here post there daily - some here read those posts daily - why do you want to deprive them of

that.

If you don't like it - hide it.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

19. Yes, but of course we'll then have to have a "2016 Postmortem Postmortem" forum...

....to discuss it.

[rzemanfl]

20. We should start a 2016 Coroner's Inquest forum and decide the issue there.

I nominate you to be Coroner, but the Russians will hack it and install their person. Either Boris Badenov or Natasha Fatale.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

21. I'd nominate this guy instead:

[rzemanfl]

23. That's most sincerely dead. n/t

[NobodyHere]

22. If you don't like it then don't go there

Problem solved.

[0rganism]

24. my preference: let it linger until Jan. 21

many of us still have a lot of grieving to go through before we hit acceptance, i think the 2016 Postmortem forum helps with that
call it a "wake" if you like

[rzemanfl]

25. I won't hit acceptance before I am dead on a slab myself.

There is nothing acceptable about Orange Julius Caesar. I will never consider that tiny fingered pervert President of this country.

[0rganism]

28. and you should have a dedicated forum for that until at least Jan. 21

imho, we need to move past acceptance to get to resistance
and we need to reach resistance as early next year as possible

[rzemanfl]

30. I have never been to a wake where people fought among themselves

over who caused the dearly departed to die.

I am surprised this thread from last night heated up in its final hours. This morning it was 93% "Agree."

[0rganism]

32. different kind of wake, i guess

still, i don't mind having it around -- i don't visit it much anymore myself, but there are clearly people who feel a need, and having a place to vent isn't really hurting anything or anyone

[guillaumeb]

26. Given the range of opinions, and the many searches for who or what is to blame,

I would say no.

[HassleCat]

27. I suggested a Bernie Blamer page.

There could be one for the other side, too. This would accommodate about 95 percent of the current postmortem discussion. Maybe we could then reserve the postmortem forum for talking about constructive ideas to improve our chances in 2018.

[sakabatou]

29. Can we get rid of the Discussionist

I hear that place is rank.

[Mike Nelson]

31. I voted...

...yes because it so often misses the mark. Hillary Clinton won the vote; it was not close. We have to focus on the other races - Congress down to school districts. And, one of the reasons Trump will become President should be evident today - the mechanics nor nether democratic nor Democratic.

[JudyM]

33. It ought to be divided in 2: 1) 2016 Learnings Forum and 2) Slapdown Forum. The rest goes to GD.

[RealityChik]

35. A conditional yes...

but only if:
1. It remains available for reference, even if only as a 'Read Only' directory
2. Another forum can be created called 2018/2020 Election Strategy ( or something like that)

The 2016 Postmortem served a great purpose in the beginning because we could all go through the stages of grief and divest ourselves of the initial rage and despair together. But as time passed, the rage and complaining about the same things over and over has gotten so toxic that it is getting in the way of any productive outcome that would inspire us to move forward into the strategic planning for a better future for the Dem party and the country as a whole.

And while I can understand the anger and frustration that we all share, people were starting to be mean and abusive to each other, and that's not right. In fact, if we don't stop it, then we're doing exactly what the Repubs and their Russian cabal WANT us to do!

Right now we are overwhelmed by the huge tasks at hand, but if we put our heads together and identify and accept what we can change and what we can't, we can plan a strategy from the bottom up, define our resource needs, and get this grassroots revolution started!

And let's make a promise to be kind to each other, ok?

[rzemanfl]

36. Good points. Welcome to DU. n/t

[RealityChik]

37. Thanx in advance...

For your patience while I blunder my way through "newbiehood"!