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DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:02 PM Dec 2016

With health benefits threatened, retired coal miners face impossible choices

Will we hear from tRump on the coal miner health care crisis??

COAL CITY, W.Va. — The sandwich bag is stuffed with pill bottles, so full its sides bulge. Rickie Coalson takes them out one by one: small shiny capsules for stomach problems, big granular ones for arthritis. Two different medications to keep his heart pumping, and two kinds of inhalers to help him breathe. Migraine pills and blood pressure pills, another lung medication, aspirin he needs to take daily.

Coalson, 59, is one of about 16,000 retired coal miners whose health care benefits will end in a few months if Congress does not replenish the funds that were supposed to keep these workers insured for the rest of their lives. He’s now wondering which of his medications — and doctor’s appointments — he’ll be able to live without.

“If my blood pressure’s not real high, maybe skip that, or if I can stand the arthritis pain, don’t take that for a while,” he said, kneeling on his living room floor surrounded by orange prescription vials. “You do what you have to do to survive. Coal miners are proud people, we won’t beg. But when they owe it to you, it’s not begging.”

These impossible choices are being considered all over coal country, and with them come a flood of resentment toward the coal companies, judges, and lawmakers that miners blame for their predicament. As coal companies have filed for bankruptcy, some have been allowed to stop paying into retired miners’ funds. Now, that money is running out.

https://www.statnews.com/2016/12/19/coal-miners-health-insurance/
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With health benefits threatened, retired coal miners face impossible choices (Original Post) DesertRat Dec 2016 OP
Well, one candidate actually gave a shit about this stuff... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #1
Spot on. n/t DesertRat Dec 2016 #2
Republicans used to care about it too. However hollowdweller Dec 2016 #3
I don't think they ever really cared... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #12
I'm fresh out of empathy for these people. Yavin4 Dec 2016 #4
Me too. Coventina Dec 2016 #7
"Coal miners are proud people, we won't beg." gratuitous Dec 2016 #5
Trump digs coal world wide wally Dec 2016 #6
Yes, the sick ones will now be able to go back to work Generic Other Dec 2016 #10
And Warren Harding dug horse drawn carriages. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #23
Good luck, West Virginia, because the guy who got 80% of your vote is Nay Dec 2016 #8
The final part made me sick. Aristus Dec 2016 #9
Well, there was a choice between 2 candidates. One gave a shit and the other didn't. Vinca Dec 2016 #11
Nothing that more opioids won't cure! hatrack Dec 2016 #13
I think the pills have mostly been cut off, but there's always heroin. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #19
Or fentanyl - even MORE effective! hatrack Dec 2016 #22
my sympathy is thin very thin irisblue Dec 2016 #14
Didn't Orange Julius Caesar sweep coal country? KamaAina Dec 2016 #15
... Solly Mack Dec 2016 #16
This must be what it is like to have a relative addicted to drugs. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #17
They won't be ready to change until they hit rock bottom. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #20
I am beginning to believe it. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #21
After next year my ACA will disappear. Starry Messenger Dec 2016 #18

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
1. Well, one candidate actually gave a shit about this stuff...
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:07 PM
Dec 2016

but people in coal country bought the sexy red cap and bumper sticker policy statements.

I feel for the guy, because I'm a good bleeding heart liberal, and I would not mind if my federal government helped him out. But it's not the Democrats that are taking this guy's health care away.

 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
3. Republicans used to care about it too. However
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:20 PM
Dec 2016

They have now so demonized unions and associated them with democrats if they voted to help them like they have done before they would be in trouble with their grassroots.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
12. I don't think they ever really cared...
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:18 PM
Dec 2016

but they used to pay a price unless they acted like they did. Now a days? Not so much.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
4. I'm fresh out of empathy for these people.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:22 PM
Dec 2016

They're the ones who keep voting in the very Republicans that cut their health care benefits, and then want to blame immigrants and Black people for all of their problems.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. "Coal miners are proud people, we won't beg."
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 12:24 PM
Dec 2016

Wanna bet?

And what does it mean, really, when Coalson says "they owe it to you"? People whose health was compromised in some other way aren't owed basic health care? They should die slowly in agonizing pain, because nobody "owes" them humane treatment?

Good luck holding Donald Trump to his campaign promises, West Virginia.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. And Warren Harding dug horse drawn carriages.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 10:10 AM
Dec 2016

And Warren Harding dug horse drawn carriages. Didn't really change what was to be though.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
8. Good luck, West Virginia, because the guy who got 80% of your vote is
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 01:55 PM
Dec 2016

soon going to be cutting you all off at the knees. And you know what? It's not gonna be the libruls' fault.

Aristus

(66,316 posts)
9. The final part made me sick.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:05 PM
Dec 2016

Sure. Fine. Pray for Mitch McConnell. Forgive him. Whatever. Just stop voting for him...

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
11. Well, there was a choice between 2 candidates. One gave a shit and the other didn't.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:22 PM
Dec 2016

Coal miners have been snookered just like those Carrier workers who will be out of a job as soon as the Indiana taxpayer dollars build enough robots.

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
13. Nothing that more opioids won't cure!
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:40 PM
Dec 2016

Bring the pills - pharma makes money, pharmacies make money, and no pesky long-term health costs.

Health Care - the New Republican Way!

irisblue

(32,968 posts)
14. my sympathy is thin very thin
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:47 PM
Dec 2016

you chose this, deal with it. Speaking as an healthcare worker in eastern Ohio.

Solly Mack

(90,762 posts)
16. ...
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:55 PM
Dec 2016
Coal miners are proud people, we won’t beg. But when they owe it to you, it’s not begging.”



"...with them come a flood of resentment toward the coal companies, judges, and lawmakers that miners blame for their predicament."


And yet they really don't see it, do they?

Sad.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
17. This must be what it is like to have a relative addicted to drugs.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 11:00 PM
Dec 2016

Let them lose their healthcare. Sometimes people have to learn the hard way.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
18. After next year my ACA will disappear.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 11:06 PM
Dec 2016

My doctor will be the herb shelf at Safeway again, but no coal miner ever gave a shit about a coastal elite like me, did they?

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