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HipChick

(25,485 posts)
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:36 PM Dec 2016

Trump plans to continue with his own security team and taxpayers will bear the costs..



http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/12/19/trump-security-force-playing-with-fire.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl



President-elect Donald Trump has made the unusual choice to continue employing his own private security team instead of leaving the task up to the Secret Service. “It’s playing with fire,” said former Secret Service agent Jonathan Wackrow, who worked on President Obama’s detail during his 2012 campaign. Having a mix-and-match security team working events in tandem with the Secret Service “increases the Service’s liability, it creates greater confusion, and it creates greater risk,” Wackrow said. Trump is expected to continue that same system through his presidency, Politico reports. All modern presidents have up to now deferred to the Secret Service, leaving just event security to local law enforcement. Breaking from the norm, Trump has instead elected to maintain his own private security force, which is led by retired veteran and New York City cop Keith Schiller. “You never want to comingle a police function with a private security function,” Wackrow said. “If you talk to the guys on the detail and the guys who are running the rallies, that’s been a little bit difficult because it’s so abnormal.
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Trump plans to continue with his own security team and taxpayers will bear the costs.. (Original Post) HipChick Dec 2016 OP
Is it wrong that I hope this literally backfires on him in the worst possible way? Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #1
Can we say "his loss would be our collective gain"? KittyWampus Dec 2016 #5
Yes, it is Jeroen Dec 2016 #2
Are you replying to post #1? (n/t) PJMcK Dec 2016 #12
Yes n/t Jeroen Dec 2016 #14
I said on DailyKos that Trump has a death wish. Many people disagreed. KittyWampus Dec 2016 #3
It is not a death wish, it is the beginning of the American WAFFEN SS! pangaia Dec 2016 #29
It is difficult to prioritize the dangers Trump represents. gordianot Dec 2016 #4
Tonton Macoute elehhhhna Dec 2016 #15
Jeez, what could possibly go wrong with this setup? CrispyQ Dec 2016 #6
Fine. SamKnause Dec 2016 #7
NO!!! He is creating exactly what Hitler did !! pangaia Dec 2016 #31
Wanna bet he'll have a body double, too. kerouac2 Dec 2016 #8
Somewhere a newly sprayed orange old guy is being instructed to eat KFC 4 times a day. nt Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #9
Hahaha! Thanks for the laugh on an otherwise shitty day... VOX Dec 2016 #24
Oh VOX, I enjoy so many of your posts. I'm glad to return a portion of the favor, and Maru Kitteh Dec 2016 #38
Where does it say the taxpayers will bear the costs dumbcat Dec 2016 #10
My guess is that they assume ManiacJoe Dec 2016 #36
His own personal SS. smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #11
Indeed... 2naSalit Dec 2016 #19
EXACTLY...., Why is everybody arguing over who will pay ?? pangaia Dec 2016 #33
That's so he can continue this type of strong arming. Secret Service would not know his suffragette Dec 2016 #13
Agree- it's part of his control freak tendencies and likely also to hide his cocaine use.... bettyellen Dec 2016 #28
I shudder to think of the people gaining power under his regime. suffragette Dec 2016 #35
It seems that Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2016 #16
There have been others, Trump promises to perfect the grifting. gordianot Dec 2016 #17
Fine, as long as we the taxpayers don't have to pay for it. muntrv Dec 2016 #18
Let me guess...he ownes a security company?? Luz Dec 2016 #20
My first question, too. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2016 #23
Whatever. It will be his own dumbass fault if some lunatic blows his head off then. n/t BlueStater Dec 2016 #21
I suspect zipplewrath Dec 2016 #22
Muscle. Like any gangster or dictator, Drumpf needs muscle... VOX Dec 2016 #25
Taxpayers are a bit like Turbineguy Dec 2016 #26
WAFFEN SS!!!! Where are out dem reps in all this, pangaia Dec 2016 #27
the privatization of the secret service. spanone Dec 2016 #30
They need slick black uniforms with Trumpish regalia C_U_L8R Dec 2016 #32
Its a way to get around the 1st amendment. drray23 Dec 2016 #34
I can see it now -- a bullet is heading dRump's way and the Secret Service guy steps out of the way LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2016 #37
 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
3. I said on DailyKos that Trump has a death wish. Many people disagreed.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:45 PM
Dec 2016

It's almost like suicidal terrorism or people who intentionally wave a gun at a police office wanting to end their life.

gordianot

(15,233 posts)
4. It is difficult to prioritize the dangers Trump represents.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:45 PM
Dec 2016

A private security force privately funded is near the top. Public money going into such a force implies some Congressional oversight. A privately funded force with cover provided by the Commander in Chief is terrifying.

SamKnause

(13,087 posts)
7. Fine.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:49 PM
Dec 2016

Withdraw the Secret Service detail.

Let Trump pay for his private security.

Make him sign a waiver; if him or a family member are assassinated

the responsibility will be solely on Donald J. Trump.

Problem solved.

If this fuck wad does not want the Secret Service protection, so be it.

This entire family is sickening to their very core.

No rules or laws apply to them.



kerouac2

(449 posts)
8. Wanna bet he'll have a body double, too.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:49 PM
Dec 2016

can't believe anyone would be willing to take one for this fraud, though...

VOX

(22,976 posts)
24. Hahaha! Thanks for the laugh on an otherwise shitty day...
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:03 PM
Dec 2016

We are in for some serious hard times and all sorts of weirdness. But humor is a welcome balm, thanks.

Maru Kitteh

(28,313 posts)
38. Oh VOX, I enjoy so many of your posts. I'm glad to return a portion of the favor, and
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:47 AM
Dec 2016

I am happy it made you smile.

And you're right, today was a shitty day.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
10. Where does it say the taxpayers will bear the costs
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 02:56 PM
Dec 2016

for his private security force? I read the whole article and didn't see it. Can you point it out? Thanks.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
36. My guess is that they assume
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:49 PM
Dec 2016

their pay will come out of the generic "white house team/staff" budget.

The Secret Service will only let such nonsense go so far.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
13. That's so he can continue this type of strong arming. Secret Service would not know his
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:30 PM
Dec 2016

bidding, act on it, then willingly take the phony blame, in full knowledge that they had acted just as he wanted by removing the reporter.

https://m.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
28. Agree- it's part of his control freak tendencies and likely also to hide his cocaine use....
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:16 PM
Dec 2016

His older son seems to be very heavily addicted and I've no doubt he feels like he will need it if the jobs half as hard as people say. I'm guessing this has a whole lot to do with him holing up in the tower and not wanting to live in DC. I bet they have a four year supply upstairs already in some flunkies apartment.

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
35. I shudder to think of the people gaining power under his regime.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 09:42 PM
Dec 2016

Not just the ones he's wanting to appoint, but their connections as well.

People like Erik Prince and James O'Keefe now have a supporter in the White House.

(Geez, I typed that White Hose for a minute and almost left it like that given the ramifications).

It's fucking unreal.

gordianot

(15,233 posts)
17. There have been others, Trump promises to perfect the grifting.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 03:42 PM
Dec 2016

Much like Communist Russia and Nazi Germany perfected thuggery. Thugs would be an added bonus to Trumpery.

muntrv

(14,505 posts)
18. Fine, as long as we the taxpayers don't have to pay for it.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 04:23 PM
Dec 2016

Withdraw the Secret Service and see who does a better job.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
22. I suspect
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 05:33 PM
Dec 2016

The article seems to imply that this is not a replacement for the Secret Service, but for local LOE's at various events. The SS will still have responsibility for his personal protection, but his security team will be deciding who gets in and who does not. He may decide it isn't worth it when he finds out that they don't have the same authority to arrest and detain that the local LOE's do.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
25. Muscle. Like any gangster or dictator, Drumpf needs muscle...
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:08 PM
Dec 2016

Not for security, strictly, but goons who will attack without question when ordered.

A hard rain's gonna fall.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
27. WAFFEN SS!!!! Where are out dem reps in all this,
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:15 PM
Dec 2016

and EVERYTHING this shitbag is doing and saying.
Where is their push back?
What are they waiting for?? The boxcars to start rolling !!

Fuck, man.....

C_U_L8R

(44,986 posts)
32. They need slick black uniforms with Trumpish regalia
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:18 PM
Dec 2016

and shiny boots that snap together so obediently
when the Donald Fuehrer is around. (((vomit)))

drray23

(7,615 posts)
34. Its a way to get around the 1st amendment.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:23 PM
Dec 2016

The secret service can not eject protesters unless they are a security risk. Private security is not bound by the first amendment. Another interesting historical tidbid.

Do you know what ss stands for as in Hitler's waffen ss?

It is Schutzstaffel which was the "protection squadron" that was initially formed in the 1920's to police the political rallies hitler was having all across germany. As Hitler power grew culminating with him winning election They morphed into the military force dedicated to enforce and carry out the horrors the fuhrer ordered..


Trump wants his current security detail from his rallies to continue to serve him. Think about it.

37. I can see it now -- a bullet is heading dRump's way and the Secret Service guy steps out of the way
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 01:30 AM
Dec 2016

and tells the private security guard, "You take it. You're paid more than me."

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