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What exactly are the philosophical underpinnings of deplorabilism? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Dec 2016 OP
Only one: TIME FOR ME TO GET MY OWN BACK. n/t TygrBright Dec 2016 #1
A Black man in the white house for 8 YEARS! redstatebluegirl Dec 2016 #2
There are three. LonePirate Dec 2016 #3
Agree. ananda Dec 2016 #11
Only one: Warpy Dec 2016 #4
Gunz! ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #5
A combination of ignorance, stupidity and general hatred. Calculating Dec 2016 #6
Resentment canetoad Dec 2016 #7
Hatred and blame of the Other. Adrahil Dec 2016 #8
Really? It's basic tribalism. haele Dec 2016 #9
Well said. Comatose Sphagetti Dec 2016 #19
This election was America's Howard Beale moment. GliderGuider Dec 2016 #10
Fox News and authoritarian religion. BluesRunTheGame Dec 2016 #12
Whatever they think pisses off liberals gratuitous Dec 2016 #13
This book ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #14
Greed. Stupidity. Magical Thinking. Fear. Hate. Indifference. Fundamentalism. Racism. hatrack Dec 2016 #15
This group ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #16
Selfishness is the biggest one. Willie Pep Dec 2016 #17
This guy ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #18
Song like this ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #20

ismnotwasm

(41,956 posts)
5. Gunz!
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 04:52 PM
Dec 2016

Gunz, and more gunz.

And this song;


Choctaw Bingo
By James McMurtry

Strap them kids in
Give 'em a little bit of vodka in a cherry coke
We're going to Oklahoma to the family reunion for the first time in years
It's up at uncle Slayton's cause he's getting on in years
You know he no longer travels but he's still pretty spry
He's not much on talking and he's just too mean to die
And they'll be comin' down from Kansas
And from west Arkansas
It'll be one great big old party like you never saw
Uncle Slayton's got his Texan pride
Back in the thickets with his Asian bride

He's got a Airstream trailer and a Holstein cow
He still makes whiskey 'cause he still knows how
He plays that Choctaw bingo every Friday night

You know he had to leave Texas but he won't say why
He owns a quarter section up by Lake Eufala
Caught a great big ol' blue cat on a driftin' jug line
Sells his hardwood timber to the shipping mill
Cooks that crystal meth because the shine don't sell
He cooks that crystal meth because the shine don't sell
You know he likes his money he don't mind the smell

My cousin Roscoe Slayton's oldest boy from his second marriage up in Illinois
He was raised in East St. Louis by his momma's people
Where they do things different
Thought he'd just come on down
He was going to Dallas Texas in a semi truck called from that big McDonald's
You know the one they built up on that great big ol' bridge
Across the Will Rogers Turnpike
Took the Big Cabin exit stopped and bought a couple of cartons of cigarettes
At that Indian Smoke Shop with the big neon smoke rings
In the Cherokee Nation hit Muskogee late that night
Somebody ran a stoplight at the Shawnee Bypass
Roscoe tried to miss 'em but he didn't quite

Bob and Mae come up from little town
Way down by lake Texoma where he coaches football
They were two A champions now for two years running
But he says they won't be this year no they won't be this year
And he stopped off in Tushka at that "Pop's Knife and Gun" place
Bought a SKS rifle and a couple a full cases of that steel core ammo
With the berdan primers from some East bloc nation that no longer needs 'em
And a Desert Eagle that's one great big ol' pistol
I mean .50 caliber made by bad ass Hebrews
And some surplus tracers for that old BAR of Slayton's
Soon as it gets dark we're gonna have us a time
We're gonna have us a time

Ruth Ann and Lynn come down from Baxter Springs
That's one hell raisin' town way up in Southeastern Kansas
Got a biker bar next to the lingerie store
That's got them Rolling Stones lips up there where everyone can see 'em
And they burn all night you know they burn all night you know they burn all night
Ruth Ann and Lynn they wear them cut off britches and those skinny little halters
And they're second cousins to me
Man I don't care I want to get between 'em
With a great big ol' hard on like a old bois d' arc fence post
You could hang a pipe rail gait from
Do some twisted sisters 'til the cows come home
And we'd be havin' us a time

Uncle Slayton's got his Texan pride
Back in the thickets with his Asian bride
He's cut that corner pasture into acre lots'
He sells 'em owner financed
Strictly to them that's got no kind of credit 'cCause he knows they're slackers
When they miss that payment
Then he takes it back
He plays that Choctaw Bingo every Friday night
Drinks that Johnny Walker at that Club 69
We're gonna strap them kids in give 'em a little bit o' Benadryl
And a cherry coke we're goin' to Oklahoma Gonna have us a time

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
6. A combination of ignorance, stupidity and general hatred.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 04:52 PM
Dec 2016

Who are we supposed to reach out to anyway? The people who think Obama is a Kenyan Muslim? The people who call Michele Obama "The Wookie" and then claim they aren't racist? The people who deny basic science such as climate change? The people who buy cheap chinese crap at walmart and then complain about how "the mexicans took their jobs"? The people who moan and wail about shit like abortion and transgendered people going into bathrooms? These people are ignorance, stupidity and hate incarnate.

canetoad

(17,135 posts)
7. Resentment
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 04:53 PM
Dec 2016
Of all the futile and destructive emotions to which human beings are prey, perhaps the most universal is resentment. Surely there can be few people who have not wasted many hours or even years of their life dwelling on the wrongs supposedly done to them. In my experience, people generally spend rather less time dwelling on the wrongs they have done to others.

Since we live in a world of perpetual injustice, everyone supposes he or she has real cause to feel resentful. But the resentment we feel is by no means proportional to its alleged cause.

Theodore Dalrymple

haele

(12,635 posts)
9. Really? It's basic tribalism.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 05:01 PM
Dec 2016

They want their tribe, as they define it, to be on top, because people who are different are scary and might take their stuff, and they don't care to be friends with anyone that doesn't play by their rules. Anyone who doesn't belong to the tribe identity is a potential Enemy.

They like their tribal hierarchy. They've got their leaders, and those leaders make sure everyone knows their place. They don't have to think too hard and they don't have to feel guilty about anything, because as long as everyone follows the rules and the leaders lead in accordance to an established tribal doctrine, nothing bad will happen. No nuance, no overall strategy with a view to the future. No "complications", everything is cut and dry. Any deviation from the rules are to be dealt with swiftly and without mercy, because mercy is a weakness.

It's a pretty simple, Manichean philosophy based only on personal belief and present situations without the imagination to visualize alternative beliefs, identify available choices and to realistically assess potential results of actions.

Us and the familiar = Good. Them and anything different = Bad. We = Danger of losing personal identity and possibly letting an Enemy win. And no one outside the tribe is allowed to win.

That's pretty much what I've observed in the actions of "deplorables". They refuse to work with anything that doesn't directly agree with their personal world-view, and will quickly take anything they want to hear as gospel truth. Which makes them very easy to rule by someone who has no moral scruples and the desire to play God Emperor.

Haele

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
13. Whatever they think pisses off liberals
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 05:42 PM
Dec 2016

Generally speaking, they don't have a very good handle on what pisses off liberals, confusing face palms and eye rolls with being pissed off.

hatrack

(59,566 posts)
15. Greed. Stupidity. Magical Thinking. Fear. Hate. Indifference. Fundamentalism. Racism.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 06:44 PM
Dec 2016

Above all, fear - fear of the unknown, of the known, of the future, of the world.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
17. Selfishness is the biggest one.
Mon Dec 19, 2016, 06:58 PM
Dec 2016

The social safety net is good for my family but nobody else. When I or a member of my family use a government program it is because we need it to get through a rough patch or because we paid for it. If anyone else uses the same or similar programs it is because they are lazy bums and parasites.

Immigration made America great when my family came here from Europe but now that most immigrants are coming from places like Latin America and Asia immigration is destroying our country.

Unions were great when I was a member but now they are causing all of our problems. Oh, but make sure my union pension is secure, thanks. Another variation on this theme is MY union is good and useful but not unions for government workers or industries that are heavily minority or female. Then they are BAD!

Please have empathy for white working-class people who are suffering from family breakdown and drug addiction. But when minorities suffer from similar problems it must be because they are morally or genetically deficient and need the "tough love" treatment.

I just want a tax cut screw everyone else.

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