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Trump voters think African Americans are much less deserving than "average Americans" (Original Post) djsunyc Dec 2016 OP
Racism from Trump voters? How shocking! LonePirate Dec 2016 #1
of course heaven05 Dec 2016 #2
tRump ran an entire campaign on this .... etherealtruth Dec 2016 #3
What a weird survey; why seperate out only a single ethnic group? Asians? Native Americans? Latinos? MadDAsHell Dec 2016 #4
They probably did this survey in response to those "so-called" progressives who have been.... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #5
because blacks have a unique racial history in this country. La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #8
Which is often the cause of intractable stubbornness and a refusal to learns new perspectives. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #12
we need to stop pretending it's not about race JI7 Dec 2016 #6
This Yavin4 Dec 2016 #13
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #14
POC are part of the set of "Average Americans" Bettie Dec 2016 #7
In reality, sure. But this survey might've made a distinction. Beartracks Dec 2016 #9
OK. To me, both statements would have been equally true, since Bettie Dec 2016 #10
Depressing nt. zipplewrath Dec 2016 #11
Proof that Fox 'news' and right wing media are doing their job. Stellar Dec 2016 #15
I'm Black DAngelo136 Dec 2016 #16
Archie Bunker.... Sancho Dec 2016 #17
yet when it comes to war, they will welcome African-Americans Sanity Claws Dec 2016 #18
Sigh. forgotmylogin Dec 2016 #19
This is a poorly conceived and designed poll . . . markpkessinger Jan 2017 #20
Fiscal conservatism 101 ElkeH Jan 2017 #21
I have a cousin who can pass for white, blonde hair blue eyes married to a white man kimbutgar Jan 2017 #22
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
2. of course
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 10:25 AM
Dec 2016

these people and their ancestors will always be among the ones that have kept racism, fear of 'others' alive for generations past and future. Although now they have carte blanche....to be violent even.....

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
3. tRump ran an entire campaign on this ....
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 10:41 AM
Dec 2016

In all fairness it wasn't only black people .... it was all people of color and all Muslims ... and women .... and Jewish folk ... and ....

This was a campaign run on bigotry and hate .... and that is what people voted for. some try to cite the "economy" ... but their economic concerns were that PoC and others had too much and white guys (emphasis on guys) deserved more.

 

MadDAsHell

(2,067 posts)
4. What a weird survey; why seperate out only a single ethnic group? Asians? Native Americans? Latinos?
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:06 PM
Dec 2016

The LGBTQ community?

What an odd survey, to call out a single racial group like that. I usually like the Huffington Post but they are on some racist shit with this survey; I don't care what their "point" was.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
5. They probably did this survey in response to those "so-called" progressives who have been....
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:22 PM
Dec 2016

insisting that "identity politics" shouldn't play a role among Democrats. This is proof positive that they're wrong. Race played as much a role in this election as ASSange & Putin. If Democrats want a chance at winning the WH & Senate again, they'll ignore the fools running around screaming about "identity politics".

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
8. because blacks have a unique racial history in this country.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:06 PM
Dec 2016

and also maybe so called progressives can stop saying this election wasnt about race/racism

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Which is often the cause of intractable stubbornness and a refusal to learns new perspectives.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 12:55 PM
Dec 2016

I don't care what their "point" was..."

Which is often the cause of intractable stubbornness and a refusal to learn new perspectives. So yeah... consistency, of course.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
13. This
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 12:57 PM
Dec 2016

We also need to make people understand that their bigotry is directly tied to their economic plight.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
7. POC are part of the set of "Average Americans"
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:56 PM
Dec 2016

Also, they are included in the set of "Poor Americans" and "Wealthy Americans".

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
9. In reality, sure. But this survey might've made a distinction.
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 12:45 AM
Dec 2016

Much depends on how "average American" is defined... or, not defined -- in which case, much depends on how "average American" is perceived by the respondent to be defined.

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Bettie

(16,089 posts)
10. OK. To me, both statements would have been equally true, since
Wed Dec 21, 2016, 01:57 AM
Dec 2016

POC (black and others) get the short end of the stick far too often and generally, the non-wealthy (of whatever color) get the shaft as well.

DAngelo136

(265 posts)
16. I'm Black
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 02:43 PM
Dec 2016

And why would I give a f*ck what those doofuses think? They are irrelevant, inconsequential and immaterial to the aspirations and ambitions of Black folks as far as I'm concerned.

Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
18. yet when it comes to war, they will welcome African-Americans
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 11:21 AM
Dec 2016

to be their cannon fodder.

I am so sick of this. Not a good way to feel on Christmas Eve. Maybe I should just unplug for a while instead of getting riled up.

forgotmylogin

(7,527 posts)
19. Sigh.
Sat Dec 24, 2016, 07:07 PM
Dec 2016

The Breitbart forums must be fast and furious, because there are Trump supporters who have taken to the IMDB forum for the movie HIDDEN FIGURES decrying loudly how they're fed up with movies that "lie" about the accomplishments of Black Americans, and how it always happens near Black History month. They're eager for Trump to end this...because the President so routinely involves the office in the content of Hollywood movies?

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
20. This is a poorly conceived and designed poll . . .
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:03 AM
Jan 2017

I don't doubt that many, maybe even most, Trump voters do feel this way. But the design of it renders it nearly useless, because given the way the poll is worded, agreement (or disagreement) with one question does not necessarily preclude also agreeing (or also disagreeing) with the other.

Also, the headline is very misleading. The poll measures the number of Trump voters who agree or disagree with either statement. It does not measure the respondents' beliefs about how deserving one group is relative to the other. The article reads more into the polll results than can actually be determined given the design of the poll.

 

ElkeH

(105 posts)
21. Fiscal conservatism 101
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 02:12 AM
Jan 2017

This is exactly why some whites are willing to vote against their own financial interests. They are fighting to preserve their privilege. Voting Democratic would mean voting for equality, an erosion of their privilege, making those voters unreachable for the Democratic Party.

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
22. I have a cousin who can pass for white, blonde hair blue eyes married to a white man
Mon Jan 2, 2017, 01:42 PM
Jan 2017

Unless you knew you'd assume she was white. I missed her at thanksgiving because she was with her white thump supporter in laws. We had New Year's Eve with her darker brother and his wife who is Latino but white looking. I invited this cousin but she declined. I found out that her husband's family can't deal with her side because we are"ghetto". I went to 12 years catholic school, graduated college, worked in the financial industry in my early career and own now two houses in San Francisco. Everyone except for her brother has a college degree. So the white thump supporter in laws think that all of our sides of family are ghetto. typical ignorant thump supporter attitude. I say f them and I really have no reason to ever respect and see them again.

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