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babylonsister

(171,021 posts)
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 04:57 PM Dec 2016

Pressure on Kuwait to move event to Trump hotel a paradigm impeachable offense

https://thinkprogress.org/pressure-on-kuwait-to-move-event-to-trump-hotel-a-paradigm-impeachable-offense-af4a9d44f71e#.uvglvfyxl

Judd Legum
Editor-In-Chief, ThinkProgress
4 hrs ago
Pressure on Kuwait to move event to Trump hotel a ‘paradigm impeachable offense’
“A grave abuse of executive power.”


On Monday, ThinkProgress reported that, after receiving pressure from the Trump organization, the Embassy of Kuwait moved a major event to the Trump International Hotel.

Kuwait’s National Day celebration, scheduled to take place at the Four Seasons prior to the election, will now take place at the Trump International Hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue, a source direct with knowledge of the arrangements told ThinkProgress.

Several legal experts say that the allegations would constitute a violation of the Constitution. Larry Tribe, a Harvard Law Professor and one of the nation’s foremost constitutional scholars, called the scenario a “paradigm impeachable offense.”

If the facts are as alleged, this kind of scenario fits the paradigm impeachable offense even better than scenarios in which Trump is a wholly passive recipient of an unconstitutional foreign Emolument. Whatever one might think of purely passive acceptance of a forbidden payment, there can be no doubt that actively soliciting a forbidden Emolument is a grave abuse of executive power and thus a “high crime and misdemeanor.”

The term “emolument” refers to a payment to a president by a foreign power. Emoluments are expressly prohibited by Article I, Section 9 of the Constitution.

Norm Eisen, former Chief Ethics Counsel for Barack Obama, agreed with Tribe’s assessment. He described the allegations as “shocking” and potentially civilly and criminally actionable.


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https://thinkprogress.org/pressure-on-kuwait-to-move-event-to-trump-hotel-a-paradigm-impeachable-offense-af4a9d44f71e#.uvglvfyxl
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Pressure on Kuwait to move event to Trump hotel a paradigm impeachable offense (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2016 OP
seems like trump has to do something while president for impeachment to apply nt msongs Dec 2016 #1
Seems to me someone needs to find their babylonsister Dec 2016 #2
Not 1 treasonous hypocritical gop house/senate katsy Dec 2016 #3
But Trump is rich Thav Dec 2016 #4
Jackie Evancho, apparently, unless she cancels before the inauguration. tanyev Dec 2016 #13
Yep. Gingrich told us. DemoTex Dec 2016 #16
K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #5
Does anyone else think that Trump wants to get impeached? Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #6
I'm sure there are people here who think that onenote Dec 2016 #7
He acts like a man who doesn't give a shit. Baitball Blogger Dec 2016 #8
You're right that he doesn't give a shit onenote Dec 2016 #9
The problem with definitive declarations about violations of the emoluments clause onenote Dec 2016 #10
Haven't they heard? elmac Dec 2016 #11
It just doesn't matter what Trump does leftieNanner Dec 2016 #12
Please, Santa - bring us Democrats with a spine Oneironaut Dec 2016 #14
Cheney going at it again, lobbying to get Tillerson approved. JudyM Dec 2016 #22
He could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and GOP congresscritters still wouldn't impeach. tenorly Dec 2016 #15
Begs, pleads, and demands Impeachment. ffr Dec 2016 #17
If the President commits a crime and is convicted in the court rolypolychloe Dec 2016 #18
Someone or some country is going to set him up guaranteed ToxMarz Dec 2016 #19
Trump is still a private citizen, I don't believe these laws apply to him yet groundloop Dec 2016 #20
I'm pretty sure that impeachment Bettie Dec 2016 #21

babylonsister

(171,021 posts)
2. Seems to me someone needs to find their
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 05:02 PM
Dec 2016

outrage, dig up a copy of the Constitution, and hold him accountable.

katsy

(4,246 posts)
3. Not 1 treasonous hypocritical gop house/senate
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 05:10 PM
Dec 2016

scum will vote to impeach. Not one.

They r above the law now. Just watch.

tanyev

(42,494 posts)
13. Jackie Evancho, apparently, unless she cancels before the inauguration.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 06:56 PM
Dec 2016

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onenote

(42,498 posts)
7. I'm sure there are people here who think that
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 05:53 PM
Dec 2016

just as there were people here who thought he didn't really want the nomination and that he really didn't want to be elected and that he would drop out (a) during the primaries; (b) before the convention; (c) during the convention; (d) after the convention but before election day.

They were wrong. And so are those who think he wants to get impeached.

Baitball Blogger

(46,655 posts)
8. He acts like a man who doesn't give a shit.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 05:56 PM
Dec 2016

Maybe he has never faced the consequences of his reckless behavior, and will make a mockery of the presidency because he's not going to start now?

onenote

(42,498 posts)
9. You're right that he doesn't give a shit
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 05:59 PM
Dec 2016

And he's confident that he can get away with anything. He's not someone who wants to get caught. He wants to get caught and then beat the rap.

onenote

(42,498 posts)
10. The problem with definitive declarations about violations of the emoluments clause
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 06:30 PM
Dec 2016

is that the clause has never been interpreted or applied by the Supreme Court and thus it really isn't possible to say what is or isn't a "paradigm" violation (although accepting the title of Sir Donald from the King of Whatever would probably fit the definition of a paradigm violation).

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
11. Haven't they heard?
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 06:48 PM
Dec 2016

You can't impeach a fascist dictator, especially with the spineless congress we have.

leftieNanner

(15,051 posts)
12. It just doesn't matter what Trump does
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 06:51 PM
Dec 2016

He will NEVER be impeached. Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are terrified of the Trump voters and will never go against them. When the lease for his Washington hotel is brought up - he will just tell them that he won't sell the property and they will have no choice but to allow it or lose their jobs. Same with everything else he gets his grubby fingers on. We are stuck with him for four years. Go read Rude Pundit's post today about possibly turning three Republican Senators to caucus with the Ds. Interesting read.

Oneironaut

(5,477 posts)
14. Please, Santa - bring us Democrats with a spine
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:00 PM
Dec 2016

No more (droopy dog voice) "Ohhhh. I guess there's nothing we can do about it anyways. I guess we'll just be quiet about it until something worse happens." President Cheney was allowed to practically destroy this nation because of spinelessness, imo.

Please more people like Warren. We need you. Call Trump out on his bs and bring him to court if he breaks the law.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
15. He could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and GOP congresscritters still wouldn't impeach.
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:13 PM
Dec 2016

Unless, perhaps, the victim was one of their mistresses/toy boys.

rolypolychloe

(56 posts)
18. If the President commits a crime and is convicted in the court
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:19 PM
Dec 2016

would he not still go to jail, even if he is not impeached. I vaguely remember some state supreme court justice being convicted of a crime and going to jail, but he refused to resign. He wanted to continue collecting his pay. The state then had to go through the whole process of impeachment to get him off the payroll. Would this not still apply to the President? A Republican Congress isn't willingly going to impeach Trump, but if he commits a crime and is convicted and goes to jail, what choice would they then have other than to impeach him? The courts are a lot more non-partisan than the congress, if not perfectly so. In theory, even the President is not above the law, and it is the courts that make that so, not Congress.

ToxMarz

(2,159 posts)
19. Someone or some country is going to set him up guaranteed
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:41 PM
Dec 2016

He and his clan are just too greedy. Any foreign power that wants to take him down just has to pay him a compliment, make a deal, pay his family off, and BAM! How can they even resist the temptation?

groundloop

(11,510 posts)
20. Trump is still a private citizen, I don't believe these laws apply to him yet
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:51 PM
Dec 2016

Of course these very same laws probably won't apply to him even after he's coronated, just because.

Bettie

(16,049 posts)
21. I'm pretty sure that impeachment
Tue Dec 20, 2016, 07:57 PM
Dec 2016

is off the table.

As are investigations into ethical issues with regard to the groper-in-chief.

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