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Obama must pardon Manning and Snowden before Trump takes officeR. Kyle Alagood
CNN
Manning has suffered immensely, as has the nation's reputation. As a result of the way she has been treated, the United Nations special rapporteur on torture accused the United States of cruel, inhuman, and degrading treatment.
Unlike Manning's indiscriminate dump of unredacted information onto the web, Snowden turned over his information to journalists. In doing so, he allowed the process and ethics of journalism to filter the leaked documents, publish only those that were in the public interest, and give the government an opportunity to push for redactions or withholding of truly harmful documents.
Without the data Snowden released, newspapers and the American people would have gone years without learning of the intelligence community's abuses and excesses. After all, the congressional intelligence committees knew about many of the programs Snowden exposed. They did not act.
The Obama administration has exiled Snowden to Russia, thereby fueling his celebrity and tarnishing the US image of political tolerance. Manning and Snowden are blemishes on President Obama's record, but they need not remain bruises on the nation's international reputation.
calguy
(5,292 posts)Manning should serve the entire term and Snowden can stay is Russia till eternity ends
brush
(53,743 posts)country's covert operations the domestic revelations are commendable but coughing up details of your own country's international covert operations, no way.
And going through China and ending up in Russia, you know but of those countries have that information.
montanacowboy
(6,080 posts)Jesus how long does this guy have to rot in jail
This is ridiculous
hack89
(39,171 posts)we are expected to believe that despite extensive contact with Russian diplomats (which also means intelligence agents) in Hong Kong before leaving for Russia, Putin did not demand copies of Snowden's documents in exchange for refuge. Because Putin is a humanitarian or something.
And of course China was more than happy to let Snowden leave their country without sharing with them either. Because ...
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)MineralMan
(146,255 posts)Both seriously compromised national security by releasing large quantities of classified information. To whom it was released and how it was used is immaterial, really. It was the acts of transferring such information that were the crime. And it's an extremely serious one, at that. Was harm caused? In many ways, we do not know what harm might have been caused, but that is not really the important question.
I'm sure that there will be no pardon for either person. The crime of giving classified information to unauthorized people is one that needs to be in place and enforced. Otherwise, there is no security at all for such information. A pardon is the same as saying, "It's really OK that you did that." It's not OK. Truly.
Sorry, but I don't think what you want to happen will happen, nor do I think it should.
Note: I'm speaking as someone who had very broad access to such information while in the USAF. My personal ethics would never have allowed me to give that information to anyone who didn't have a legitimate, legal reason to have it.
TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts).
This will be a Trump "Win" and a Russian "Good Faith" gesture.
It will show a solidarity between Russia and the U.S. that Obama could not deliver.
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It will reinforce Trump's creds with his community ans will be another National Inquirer headline in checkout lines.
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