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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGreenwald is starting to become yesterday's news...like Assange ...
Neither the CIA nor any other government agency has presented a shred of evidence to support its accusation that the Russian govt was behind the DNC & Podesta hacks.
Here's an MSNBC segment I just did on why no rational person should believe such claims until there's convincing evidence presented to support them:
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-news/watch/glenn-greenwald-weighs-in-on-election-hacks-838954051793?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
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Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)important enough to share classified information with. It's called doing their job. Now do yours and stop whining.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Those sources said we kill almost no innocents with drones but independent sources have strong evidence that we do. Those sources said Iraq was trying to get uranium, but we never found any. Given frequent lying by anonymous US Govt sources it would be foolish to just take their word as likely true.
Our govt wants to weaken Russia so there is a motive to lie.
So it is reasonable to withhold judgment until there is reliable evidence.
What Greenwald said was reasonable, logical.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)I thought he knew before anyone else knew an orange turd would come flying out of the repukers primaries and land on our Christmas party...
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)And as far as the lie about Iraq trying to get uranium, this is old news. But, it wasn't the CIA who lied. It was Bush, who mentioned it in his State of the Union address, as he drummed up support to invade Iraq. The intelligence community did its job.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)In 2012 John Brennan said there were no civilian casualties in Pakistan from drone strikes in the previous year. He said Osama Bin Laden was in a firefight with Navy Seals and that he used his wife as a human shield. George HW Bush when he ran the CIA outright lied about who started fighting between Pakistan and India. Several named former high ranking intelligence officers have said they think the leaks were from someone who took the data out a door on a thumb drive, not from hacking.
I don't know if the CIA is correct on this. But I know they are not trustworthy. And that we should see solid evidence before we take what they say as truth.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,711 posts)A lot of trolls tried to promote him on DU none the less
pbmus
(12,422 posts)Cha
(296,780 posts)he's always been a ****.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)Cha
(296,780 posts)board.. Finally he cannot be pretzel twisted out of it.
Mahalo, pbmus
Cicada
(4,533 posts)What matters is whether what he said is correct. It is TRUE that anonymous US govt sources often lie to influence public opinion. And it is true that real evidence which can be verified is missing. So what he said, that we believe the claims solely based on faith in sources known to often lie, is true. Whether Greenwald is a creep or not.
pbmus
(12,422 posts)brush
(53,737 posts)dionysus
(26,467 posts)Cicada
(4,533 posts)we should judge what they say by it's validity, not by what they believe about other things.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)their main purpose this election, and now they'll fade away since everything is over and Mr. 2nd Place President won. No more "bombshells" about emails or Clinton plotting to have Assange assassinated.