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deminks

(11,013 posts)
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:14 PM Dec 2016

Was Rudy Giuliani At The Center Of An FBI-Trump Campaign Conspiracy To Steal The Election?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/was-rudy-giuliani-at-the-center-of-an-fbi-trump-campaign_us_585ad14ce4b014e7c72ed993

Publicly Available Information Appears to Put Giuliani at the Center of a Watergate-Level Conspiracy

It’s surprising that Rudy Giuliani has been out of the news lately, given that, as recently as November 7, Donald Trump was planning on offering him a cabinet position.

A little over a month later, the president-elect ruled out Giuliani having any role in his administration whatsoever.

So what happened between November 7 and December 9?

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So why was Comey so certain that his own organization would violate the Hatch Act? (The Hatch Act is a federal statute prohibiting certain federal employees, including FBI agents, from engaging in partisan political behavior by, among other things, issuing targeted leaks to the press.) And why was Comey’s certainty at such a fevered pitch on October 28th that it prompted him to violate longstanding FBI protocol prohibiting administrative actions that could influence an election in the 60 days before Election Day? In this respect the “Comey Letter” certainly seemed out of character for the FBI director, who had not only previously declined to prosecute Hillary Clinton but was also universally known as a “straight shooter.”

The most likely answer for Comey’s uncharacteristic behavior? Again, Rudy Giuliani.

Per a CNN report, on October 28 Rudy Giuliani went on the Lars Larson radio program and confessed that current agents in the FBI had committed Hatch Act violations to get him information about the ongoing Clinton investigation. Specifically, wrote CNN, “the former mayor said he was in contact with former agents ‘and a few active agents, who obviously don’t want to identify themselves.’” Giuliani wasn’t even being especially coy; he was quite clearly indicating that the reason the current FBI agents who’d spoken to him didn’t want to identify themselves was because their contact with him had been illegal.

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Was Rudy Giuliani At The Center Of An FBI-Trump Campaign Conspiracy To Steal The Election? (Original Post) deminks Dec 2016 OP
Might explain why he didn't get a job. They were afraid to put Rudy under oath. hrmjustin Dec 2016 #1
I Posted This A Couple Of Days Ago..... global1 Dec 2016 #2
Rudy should stay off small planes sdfernando Dec 2016 #4
This will be the Watergate of our time. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #3
I'd love to see him (the AG, not Rudy) primary Cuomo. eggplant Dec 2016 #10
New York AG would take out Cuomo. Wellstone ruled Dec 2016 #12
I would have loved to see Zephyr kick his ass. eggplant Dec 2016 #13
How? sellitman Dec 2016 #14
Like there will be prosecutions..... TaterBake Dec 2016 #5
Brilliant piece of investigative journalism! ffr Dec 2016 #6
maybe it goes back a ways with putin playing trump certainot Dec 2016 #7
I recall him bragging KT2000 Dec 2016 #8
Absolutely.... Is black black or up up pbmus Dec 2016 #9
Ghouliani on Fox 2 days before the Comey letter said that something big was coming in a couple days MrPurple Dec 2016 #11

global1

(25,220 posts)
2. I Posted This A Couple Of Days Ago.....
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:27 PM
Dec 2016

Giulianani Knows That He Wouldn't Have Made It Through The Scrutiny that would be thrust upon him should he have been given a cabinet appointment in the Trump Administration. He would have to answer some damning questions about his collusion with the FBI and Comey and how he had advanced knowledge of what this 'pretty big surprise' was that he was talking about like the cat that ate the canary.

He is now kind of running real low and kinda off the radar. I think there is some there there and he was taken out of the running because of this.

I believe if Giuliani is made to testify at some investigation - that he is one of the keys that can unravel a lot of dirt on the Trump organization and campaign.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. This will be the Watergate of our time.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 03:30 PM
Dec 2016

New York AG will nail Rudi big time. It will be his badge of courage in the up coming Governors Race.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. New York AG would take out Cuomo.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 06:07 PM
Dec 2016

big time. Cuomo's Gal Pal has health issues and this might be his last go.

Understand there is zero friendship between Rundi and the AG. Trump's legal troubles will come from New York and LA.

eggplant

(3,907 posts)
13. I would have loved to see Zephyr kick his ass.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 06:11 PM
Dec 2016

She did, here in Columbia County, two to one. He's got to go.

 

TaterBake

(56 posts)
5. Like there will be prosecutions.....
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:25 PM
Dec 2016

So what if laws were broken. Prison is for the poor not Trumpscum traitor FBI maggots.

Democrats already surrendered.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
6. Brilliant piece of investigative journalism!
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:33 PM
Dec 2016
All of the above draws from publicly available information. None of the above has yet been put together, however, by anyone in the mainstream media—as their singular focus on Russia and their self-consciousness about “not re-litigating the election” has permitted a Watergate-level conspiracy to go unreported and unpunished.


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certainot

(9,090 posts)
7. maybe it goes back a ways with putin playing trump
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 05:37 PM
Dec 2016

through guys like manafort, going back a ways

it should be assumed

in april a journalist talked to a trump guy who said they listened to thousands of hours of talk radio and reported to trump in the lead up to decision to run.

trump isn't going to do that unless someone convinced him and no one in us politics gives a shit about talk radio even though channeling it was the key to his win, and those in repub establishment wouldn't have chosen him for this 'tip', so maybe the russians recognized the rw radio monopoly as a dominating PSYOP

KT2000

(20,567 posts)
8. I recall him bragging
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 05:41 PM
Dec 2016

to anyone who would listen about his access to the FBI. This is always the downfall of the narcissist - it's always about them.

MrPurple

(985 posts)
11. Ghouliani on Fox 2 days before the Comey letter said that something big was coming in a couple days
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 06:03 PM
Dec 2016

Giuliani made the comments and Wednesday and Comey said he didn't know about emails on Wiener's laptop until Thursday, before sending the letter on Friday.

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