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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:20 PM Dec 2016

Trump Mulls Imposing Tariffs by Executive Order

By Eric Levitz

December 22, 2016
10:30 a.m.

Donald Trump has decided that liberals shouldn’t be the only ones asking Santa for Xanax this Christmas: The president-elect has informed Republican-aligned business groups that he may impose a 5 percent tariff on all imports, according to CNN.

The network reports that future White House chief of staff Reince Priebus shared this plan with “key Washington players,” and was met with a torrent of panicked lectures on economics.

Priebus, the sources said, was warned such a move could start trade wars, anger allies, and also hurt the new administration’s effort to boost the rate of economic growth right out of the gate.

One of the sources said he viewed the idea as a trial balloon when first raised, and considered it dead on arrival given the strong reaction in the business community — and the known opposition to such protectionist ideas among the GOP congressional leadership.


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Trump Mulls Imposing Tariffs by Executive Order (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2016 OP
I remember a time when everyone (on the right) hated on President Obama 1965Comet Dec 2016 #1
Executive orders will be used by every president from here on out yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #2
I remember a time when people took each EO on its own merit. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #11
Is that legal? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #3
LOL. Beat me by a nose. NT Girard442 Dec 2016 #6
Not so much started the Depression, yet was however, both a reaction to it LanternWaste Dec 2016 #12
The US Constitution. It's only a stinkin piece of paper. Shread it!! madinmaryland Dec 2016 #14
Not true. International trade was only about 2-3% of our economy then. Smoot-Hawley Elwood P Dowd Dec 2016 #17
Paging Mr. Smoot. Paging Mr. Hawley. Girard442 Dec 2016 #4
Including his products? SHRED Dec 2016 #5
Isn't this a violation of all those free trade agreements? Sanity Claws Dec 2016 #7
serves them right sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #8
Unfortunately, that would absolutely be unconstitutional. RDANGELO Dec 2016 #9
See Post #14. *Rump has higher authoriy than the constitution. madinmaryland Dec 2016 #15
Necessarily by an immediate recession, resulting in higher cost of production... LanternWaste Dec 2016 #10
At 5%, yes ,that might be a little high. RDANGELO Dec 2016 #13
Good point. *Rump is only interested in enriching himself. madinmaryland Dec 2016 #16
Another election promise bites the dust. He said 35%. Over and over and over again. Vinca Dec 2016 #18
 

1965Comet

(175 posts)
1. I remember a time when everyone (on the right) hated on President Obama
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:23 PM
Dec 2016

for his use of executive orders...

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
11. I remember a time when people took each EO on its own merit.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:40 PM
Dec 2016

I remember a time when people took each EO on its own merit... since we're merely reminiscing and all.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,646 posts)
3. Is that legal?
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:29 PM
Dec 2016

I thought congress could only impose a tax.

It's said that the Great Depression was started in part by tariffs imposed by the Smoot-Hawley act.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
12. Not so much started the Depression, yet was however, both a reaction to it
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:44 PM
Dec 2016

Not so much started the Depression, yet was however, both a reaction to it and a contributor to both its severity and length.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
17. Not true. International trade was only about 2-3% of our economy then. Smoot-Hawley
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 05:36 PM
Dec 2016

passed in 1930 and only applied to certain imports. The Depression was already raging at that time, and all trade was heading to the toilet regardless of where the products came from.

Sanity Claws

(21,834 posts)
7. Isn't this a violation of all those free trade agreements?
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:31 PM
Dec 2016

Countries we trade with would file complaints with WTO.
There would be retaliatory tariffs.
Does he even know this?

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
8. serves them right
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:32 PM
Dec 2016

We may land deep in the poop from his actions, but these idiot reps need to learn that their actions have consequences. They should have fought harder to get a decent candidate.

RDANGELO

(3,432 posts)
9. Unfortunately, that would absolutely be unconstitutional.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:32 PM
Dec 2016

It is clear in the constitution, that congress has the power to regulate tariffs.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. Necessarily by an immediate recession, resulting in higher cost of production...
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:38 PM
Dec 2016

All things being equal, new tariffs followed necessarily by an immediate recession, due to higher cost of production, higher cost to consumer, followed by a reduction of discretionary spending leading to a decline in demand for other goods produced in the US.

My guess is Trump will limit this artificial protection to only those industries he has a financial stake in.

RDANGELO

(3,432 posts)
13. At 5%, yes ,that might be a little high.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 04:44 PM
Dec 2016

At 2 or three percent , I think you could get away with it. If you are ever going to make a dent in income inequality, you have to have two things. You have to have a strong minimum wage, and you have to stop running huge trad deficits.

Vinca

(50,233 posts)
18. Another election promise bites the dust. He said 35%. Over and over and over again.
Thu Dec 22, 2016, 06:46 PM
Dec 2016

So now we're at no Hillary in jail, no ouster of all of "those people," no Muslim ban, no draining the swamp, no saving everyone's job. Up next: no wall, no repeal of Obamacare (it may be tweaked and renamed Trumpcare).

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