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n2doc

(47,953 posts)
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 11:27 AM Dec 2016

Paul Krugman- Populism, Real and Phony

Authoritarians with an animus against ethnic minorities are on the march across the Western world. They control governments in Hungary and Poland, and will soon take power in America. And they’re organizing across borders: Austria’s Freedom Party, founded by former Nazis, has signed an agreement with Russia’s ruling party — and met with Donald Trump’s choice for national security adviser.

But what should we call these groups? Many reporters are using the term “populist,” which seems both inadequate and misleading. I guess racism can be considered populist in the sense that it represents the views of some non-elite people. But are the other shared features of this movement — addiction to conspiracy theories, indifference to the rule of law, a penchant for punishing critics — really captured by the “populist” label?

Still, the European members of this emerging alliance — an axis of evil? — have offered some real benefits to workers. Hungary’s Fidesz party has provided mortgage relief and pushed down utility prices. Poland’s Law and Justice party has increased child benefits, raised the minimum wage and reduced the retirement age. France’s National Front is running as a defender of that nation’s extensive welfare state — but only for the right people.

Trumpism is, however, different. The campaign rhetoric may have included promises to keep Medicare and Social Security intact and replace Obamacare with something “terrific.” But the emerging policy agenda is anything but populist.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/23/opinion/populism-real-and-phony.html

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Paul Krugman- Populism, Real and Phony (Original Post) n2doc Dec 2016 OP
I agree with him in the main but what distinguishes the populist isn't what they stand for: JHan Dec 2016 #1
I think it's just a desperate form of populism. gulliver Dec 2016 #2
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2016 #3
Axis of evil IS more of an apt description. Thanks, Prof. Krugman. nt. Mc Mike Dec 2016 #4

JHan

(10,173 posts)
1. I agree with him in the main but what distinguishes the populist isn't what they stand for:
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 12:36 PM
Dec 2016

but their absolutism. The populist will always target the establishment and will break tradition, abuse power for the sake of pushing their causes or beliefs which they believe to be absolutely right and they also don't care about separation of powers.

fitting this is the year of hamilton, because he warned us:

"Nothing is more common than for a free people, in times of heat and violence, to gratify momentary passions, by letting into the government, principles and precedents which afterwards prove fatal to themselves. Of this kind is the doctrine of disqualification, disfranchisement and banishment by acts of legislature. The dangerous consequences of this power are manifest. If the legislature can disfranchise any number of citizens at pleasure by general descriptions, it may soon confine all the votes to a small number of partizans, and establish an aristocracy or an oligarchy; if it may banish at discretion all those whom particular circumstances render obnoxious, without hearing or trial, no man can be safe, nor know when he may be the innocent victim of a prevailing faction. The name of liberty applied to such a government would be a mockery of common sense.


http://founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-03-02-0314

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
2. I think it's just a desperate form of populism.
Fri Dec 23, 2016, 01:39 PM
Dec 2016

People are sick of one another's freedoms, their own growing economic insecurity, and being driven crazy by their screens. So they are deliberately letting the wolves into the house. It's like calling in an airstrike on your own position.

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