This Donald thing is starting to blow up.

[leftyladyfrommo]

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He is getting hit on so many fronts it is unbelievable .

The inauguration is turning into a giant fiasco thanks to all our friends in the entertainment industry.

So he tweets about starting an arms race and immediately gets called on it by about a million people.

His kids are getting hit right and left for trying to sell the presidency.

Putin comes out and says he is wonderful and the Democrats are sore losers.

His lies about his landslide are just pathetic.

This is like nothing anyone has ever seen before.

[pfitz59]

1. It can only get worse....

his billionaire advisers are as spoiled as him, and have their own agendas.... let the bickering begin

[leftyladyfrommo]

2. What a huge clusterfuck. nt

[calimary]

23. That statement pretty much sums it up, leftyladyfrommo.

And the so-called "President-Elect" hasn't even been "inaugurated" yet.

[2naSalit]

24. I tend to think of it as

a catastrophuck (credit to Jon Stewart for that one)!

[moda253]

3. I don't see it.

Sure I see it in our internet-echo-chamber.

But as far as his supporters they just keep throwing it all on the liberal media agenda fire.

The problem we face is opening their eyes and they won't do that until it is damn near too late if even then.

Have to reach the other half at some point. That's the mission without them waking we are just the enemy.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. I feel like Charlton Heston in Planet of The Apes - "It's a mad house!!!"

His brain dead fans don't give a shit.

Their response:

"Hahaha suck it libtards!!!!! Derp derp derp!!!"

And when the shit DOES hit the fan, they and their willing repig leadership will blame it on Obama. They'll get away with it because those cynical fuckers know they can sell just about anything at this point.

[certainot]

45. they can sell it because rw radio is invisible to dems and left

everything they want to sell, like the next war and the end of net neutrality, will be blasted out of those radio stations first. anyone who wants to know what trump and co want to do just need to listen to rw radio, with limbaugh at point.

for local issues it's the local blowhards coordinating with the think tanks

limbaugh already nov 29 signaled trump will kill net neutrality.

and we let 88 major deplorable universities in 40 states support 257 of those rw stations as they help trump without complaint or protest.

that makes all those universities legitimate places to protest, when the shit hits the fan, or anytime at all, for any trump atrocity.

[dhol82]

66. This has to be spread around the world!

Most people just have no concept of the evil that is now assembled.

I cry for my country. Next, I cry for myself. What a maelstrom is now to come.

[40degreesflaps]

102. Nationalism...

...is spreading and right now it's what the world seems to want to hear.

Churchill said if you see far enough into the past, you can see the future. Applying that lesson to what's just happened, I'd say globalism is falling apart. First there was Brexit. Then there was Trump's victory here. Next will be the French:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/marine-le-pen-poll-election-odds-latest-french-presidential-lead-sarkozy-a7428126.html

And the Germans:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/angela-merkel-to-stand-for-re-election-as-german-chancellor-1479650799

The last President we had who was overwhelmingly dependent on staff was Reagan. One would think there will be scandals but that was before social media and the 24 hour news cycle...maybe not. Everyone will be so vigilant and we're coming from a such a hard fought campaign where there was this constant siege mentality. I would bet against it.

[babylonsister]

15. I suspect when it hits them in their

pocketbooks they might show a bit more concern, and we all know it's coming.

[MountCleaners]

35. Those nuclear missles are expensive

Whatever happened to fiscal conservatism?

[WhiteTara]

51. That only applies to social programs

that help ordinary people. The 1% will get richer and the chance of ending life on the planet grows.

[40degreesflaps]

103. I've Been Around...

...long enough to remember the same thing being said in the early seventies. We're still here.

[40degreesflaps]

112. We Live About Twenty Minutes...

...from the labs in Livermore. The other night a retired research scientist at my favorite watering hole in Alamo told me what Trump is saying appears to be true. This stuff about downsizing DoE is bullshit. Our nuclear stockpile has been in need of a refresh for some years running and I suspect he's going to use that as a means of job creation. LLNL (otherwise known as Larry Lab) will see some impact from it but Sandia's work is almost exclusively weapons related and they'll get a big boost. They aren't even a real lab anymore, having been absorbed into Lockheed Martin a few years ago. You still need the Q clearance there but they work on DoE contracts where the other lab is more of a research entity. San Ramon Valley is loaded with retired "labbies" as we call them. The amateur radio club where I volunteer is peppered with them. I've never seen so many brilliant fat guys in once place in my life. Next to them, I look like Cary Grant.

Berkeley Lab is still here but no longer does weapons research of any kind. It's prohibited by law. It's still DoE but you don't need clearances to work there. Given that it's part of UCOP, I don't even think they drug test. Most people there could not pass one. I never needed one for UCSF when I did large systems work. It's San Francisco.

[certainot]

46. they'll do what they always do, use 1200 invisible talk radio stations to blame dems

while dems and the left blame their reps

until dems factor in talk radio they might as well be studying fish without water

[Beartracks]

62. ... aaaand it will all be "Obama's fault."

The supposed party of personal responsibility never takes any responsibility.

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[Rural_Progressive]

17. Like to see this term go into general use

They live in an alt-universe. The only explanation for their acceptance of proven lies as facts and truth.

The only way folks of this ideological bent seem to learn anything is by personal experience. If something happens to them, their family or their friends they can learn from it and alter their belief system. Doesn't seem to be any way to empathize or put themselves in someone elses shoes.

[hunter]

22. Not all of them learn from experience. Look at what happens to LGBT kids.

Many "conservative" parents suddenly see the world in a new light, others slowly come around to some sort of acceptance, but then you've got those parents who simply throw their kids out and never speak to them again.

Welcome to DU!

[TexasBushwhacker]

87. I think/hope disowning LGBT sons and daughters is becoming less common

As LGBT folks have been living more openly, in their personal lives and in the workplace, people have had more opportunity to get to KNOW them. They come to realize that they are just people, with strengths and flaws just like everyone else.

When the parents already know some gay people and realize they aren't monsters, it makes it easier for them to accept it in their children. Familiarity doesn't always breed contempt.

[iluvtennis]

63. Yep, it has to hit them in the patoot before they believe anything. Just amazing...nt

[uponit7771]

69. +1

[mercuryblues]

96. I know

several who think they and theirs are the exceptions to the rule. Their kid is on SSDI, but they really need it. But the Mexican kid down the street, in a wheelchair is just milking the system. They can get a job. If they need heating assistance only they are worthy, but the single mom down the street? It was her choice to have those babies and ripping off the system.

This is why you can't reach them. Even when things hit home, only they are worthy of assistance.

Have you ever googled my abortion is the only moral abortion? A list of stories from DRs. telling about how picketers and anti-abortion advocates have gone into their clinics for an abortion. Then the next week harassing women as they go into the very clinic they used.

[renate]

108. welcome to DU!

I think that's an excellent idea! It's great shorthand, which makes it easy to use in conversation or in articles or wherever, and it's accurate, too.

[calimary]

117. Welcome to DU, Rural_Progressive!

When I think of all the things I want to call him, the standard day-to-day options include:
Resident trump: inspired by the early website Resident Bush (which I think doesn't exist anymore but it was through residentbush.com that I found DU back in 2001), after the disgraceful thievery Selection 2000. He was not my President. He will NEVER be my President. However, in the interest of factual accuracy, he DID move into the White House - for WAY too long - and so it seemed fitting to refer to him as Resident bush, or The Resident.
The Donald: always made sense. His first wife, Ivana, called him that with her thick Czech accent. Allows me to capitalize his name, which ordinarily I do not like to do. Just another way to show my complete disrespect and disregard for him. I never capitalized bush/cheney's names, either. For the same reason.
trump: last name's good enough, most of the time. By now it's pretty clear we're not talking about a bridge game.
donald trump: sometimes, we go formal.

I will not be attaching the word "President" to this bastard's name. I await the day when he AND all his little white henchmen are GONE.

#TheResistance #NotMyPresident #NotMyPresidentElect #NeverTrump

[calimary]

25. Welcome to DU, moda253.

I think everyone on this thread is making a valid point, yours included.

I HOPE we can reach some of these idiots before it's damn near too late. What I fear is that we might be at that exact "until it's damn near too late" point - NOW.

[KittyWampus]

26. Not on Facebook. Sure there are the 30% who are sticking with him. But so many people,

mostly women, are over it.

[NewJeffCT]

32. We only need to swing 1 Trump voter out of 100

Just 1 voter in 100 last month gives PA, FL, WI, MI and NC to Clinton and people are talking about the huge Clinton landslide.

[uponit7771]

70. yeap... good math there... we don't need 10% of the 62 million just 1 and he's done

[Cosmocat]

48. Right

These jackasses still see themselves as victims and Trump as the big fuck you to all those POS people who deal in fact and reality.

It's going to have to get REALLY bad before they MIGHT WTF up.

[Soulbro2]

4. Nuclear Crazy Talk and The Crazy Uncle in The Basement

Our concern with the crazy nuke talk is NOT a war with Russia. No, our concerns should be focus on that Crazy Uncle in the Basement - North Korea. They are a greater danger to the US than the Russians.

[calimary]

27. Welcome to DU, Soulbro2.

My husband was just talking about that. The North Koreans. What's to stop them from sidling up to ISIS, with some level of nuclear capability to sell?

I've never hoped I'd be wrong more ardently than I do now. But I can't shake an ever-stronger nagging feeling within me that this will not end well.

[Skittles]

49. you know it, Soulbro2

welcome to DU

[True_Blue]

72. Yes our next POTUS is an insane madman

Handpicked by Putin himself. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but this feels like a Russian plot to destroy America.

[RKP5637]

76. Putin is no dummy, and Trump is Putin's dummy to enact Putin's agenda. Trump is in a fog.

Trump has no F'en idea what's going on.

[40degreesflaps]

126. (cue the intro from Hunt For Red October)

Please Yuri...more vodka. And stroganoff. It's good today.

[libtodeath]

5. The problem his that the racist idiots in the country love it.

[40degreesflaps]

104. As A Democrat...

...one would think you have an interest in the overall health of the party. Great - so my advice to you is to dump the identity politics because if you don't, you're going to remain in the wilderness for one hell of a long time to come.

I've been around politics for awhile. The last time we saw a realignment like this was 1980 and the Dems spent twelve years out of power only returning with the DLCers (the Clintons, Mark Warner, Jim Webb, etc) who are damn near Republicans anyway. I don't see that happening again because it's become all about money and those precious dollars are always raised at the extremes.

When someone calls me a racist or sexist or xenophobe or homophobe, what they're really saying is that my opinion doesn't matter. Looking at the results from 2016, I would tell you that it damn well does matter and it's gonna matter for a number of years to come. Before you respond, I want you to sleep on it. I want you to think about what I said here.

[kcr]

106. Yes, 40degreesflaps, your opinion DOES matter!

Here. I'll validate it for you, and hope it makes you feel better. Here goes: Your ever so valid opinion about ignoring racism is striking in its liberalness. How can we not see it? If only Dems - ahem - other Dems agreed with your very valid opinion that totally does matter, we'd see the light. Keep trying. I'm sure we'll get it some day. And then we'll start winning elections for sure!

[40degreesflaps]

109. If We Go Back...

...to 1992, I don't remember Bill carrying on like that. He was also the lone wolf telling the DNC as early as last summer to scrap the identity politics thing and talk directly to the white working class. He was ignored with predictable results.

Numbers don't lie. The party has become almost an exclusively coastal entity. That won't work. It didn't work in 2016.

I'm wondering who that new standard bearer should be. I already mentioned Cordray and Ryan. There's Sherrod Brown but he can't even bring himself to comb his hair and show up in a clean suit to speak on the Senate floor. What about Mark Dayton? He's a billionaire, easily. There's O'Malley but he can't seem to get traction outside of Maryland. I can definitely tell you it isn't a Californian as attractive as it would be to nominate Kamala Harris or Jerry Brown or Tony Villaraigosa if for no other reason than to collect the millions they would undoubtedly raise. Maybe that's what the party will do - punt the ball and line the coffers. The DNC and DSCC are broke. Schumer was bleeding from his eyes talking about it.

[pipi_k]

6. And then...

this morning his new press secretary was being interviewed on CNN, trying to spin the Donald's inflammatory words.

Oh, he really didn't mean what he said...

The woman interviewing him said it's hard to know WHAT he means since who can ever tell?

So she asked if what Trump Tweets can be taken figuratively, or literally. Oh yes, answered the new press secretary (whose name escapes me) people can take what he Tweets literally.

WTF????

The woman interviewing him gave him a bit of a smirk (it seemed to me) and said something along the lines of how it's going to be very interesting in the coming years.

anyone else see that?

[tblue37]

11. Then Cheato goes on Scarborough and says he does want an arms race! nt

[zippythepinhead]

16. Meek Mika and motor mouth joe

are trump meat puppets.

[40degreesflaps]

118. No...

...they're corporate employees who do what they are told.

If you work for the big media, you carry out orders and they pay you. Period.

[zippythepinhead]

123. true, but

[RKP5637]

77. His new press secretary is a damn fool! I saw that ridiculous spin. n/t

[hurple]

7. It's YUGE!

His precedentcy is going to bigly fail! We're going to be so tired of failing!

God help us all.

[calimary]

29. Welcome to DU, hurple.

I like that! "His precedency"! THAT'S a great way to word it!

I've already determined that I simply cannot call him "President trump". Maybe "Resident trump" the same as some people referred to dubya - as "Resident Bush". I cannot capitalize his name except in the case of what first wife Ivana called him: "The Donald." Otherwise, for me, he's trump. Or donald trump. I can't put the word "President" on there. Just can't do it! But "Precedent trump" I think I could do.

[LeftishBrit]

82. I can't even use his name without feeling ill

To me, he is 'The Unspeakable', or, in the nuke context, 'American Psycho'.

[3catwoman3]

89. I am using...

...DFT - Donald Fucking Trump.

[calimary]

116. He Who Must Not Be Named.

To riff off the Harry Potter books.

For me, it will always be He Who Must Not Be President.

[NewJeffCT]

34. Welcome to DU

It won't fail bigly for everybody - ExxonMobil may end up as the largest corporation in history if Russian sanctions are canceled and they get that $500 billion drilling deal...

the very wealthy will make out bigly if the estate tax is repealed on multi-millionaires...

The deficit will grow bigly as well.

[RKP5637]

78. K&R!!! n/t

[TexasProgresive]

8. BIGLY!

[TheBlackAdder]

9. Don't forget the praise levied at Trump by Saddam Hussein's daughter.

.


Here's Saddam's daughter, Raghad...

Saddam Hussein's daughter praised President-elect Donald Trump Thursday as a leader with a "high level of political sensibility."

"This man has just arrived to the leadership ... But from what is apparent, this man has a high level of political sensibility, that is vastly different than the one who preceded him," Raghad Saddam Hussein, the daughter of the late Iraqi dictator, told CNN.

"He exposed the mistakes of the others, specifically in terms of Iraq, which means he is very aware of the mistakes made in Iraq and what happened to my father," she said, apparently returning compliments Trump has offered her late father in recent months.

Here's Trump...

Throughout his campaign, Trump claimed he opposed the Iraq War and praised the former dictator, who was executed in 2006, for "killing terrorists."

"Saddam Hussein was a bad guy, right? ... But you know what he did well? He killed terrorists. He did that so good," he said in July.

During a February 2016 GO debate, he also claimed the world would be a safer place if Hussein, and fallen Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi were still in power.

"We would be so much better off if Gaddafi were in charge right now," Trump said.

"If these politicians went to the beach and didn't do a thing and we had Saddam Hussein and if we had Qaddafi in charge instead of having terrorism all over the place — at least they killed terrorists, all right?" he said. "And I'm not saying they were good, because they were bad, they were really bad. But we don't know what we're getting," he said.

Trump has also frequently blasted U.S. intelligence agencies for using the claim that Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction as the reason to invade the country.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/saddam-hussein-daughter-praises-trump-political-sensibility-article-1.2920095


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[leftyladyfrommo]

19. That was a really good one.

I forgot that one. What a compliment!

[calimary]

31. Seems only fitting. After all, trump has his two sons,

his very own version of Saddam's two dreadful sons and hand-me-down henchmen, Uday and Qusay. Or as some in this country worded it, back then: "Ooky and Kooky".

[JudyM]

30. And not gonna drain the swamp, oh yes I AM going to drain it.

[RKP5637]

79. Wait, hold on, I am the swamp. Can't do that. Damn, how did I get this F'en job anyhow? n/t

[JudyM]

93. LOL!

[3catwoman3]

90. He drained the swamp to get to the...

...really slimy stuff all the way at the bottom.

[NYC Liberal]

60. Saddam's daughter. Putin. The KKK. What lovely company The Con keeps.

[napi21]

12. Last night at dinner I asked my hubby if he thought tthe Con was sorry he ever ran for Prerz?

Not only is he taking heat for his tweets he sends without thinking, but a lot of the financial & legal communities are hammrtong him for not divesting himself of his assets or he will be violation of the constitution upon inauguration. His entire world as he knew it is falling apart and HE can't control it! He doesn't deal well with things HE can't have total control over. I really believe he is going to ultimately resign out of frustration....sooner or later.

[Dulcinea]

85. Probably.

He doesn't really want to be President. He just wants the attention. He ran to get free publicity for his businesses. I don't think he ever thought he might win. Now he's stuck, & so are we.

[etherealtruth]

13. The ass-holes that propelled this dangerous buffoon into to power ...

Don't seem to have a problem.

tRump voters: Ass-holes one and all

[TaterBake]

14. Join The Opposition Or Put On Your Headstone - I Didn't Resist Hard Enough And Now I'm Dead

We are at war folks.

The Deplorables will not win.

Ever.

[calimary]

33. Welcome to DU, TaterBake.

I often share #TheResistance, #NotMyPresident/#NotMyPresidentElect, and #NeverTrump. On Twitter and even verbally, in conversation.

VERY proud member of the Opposition, here.

[zippythepinhead]

18. It's like nightmare on elm street

Will sombody please wake me up?


















at least I'll never have to see turtle mcconnell's smirking face again.

[leftyladyfrommo]

20. And what'really weird?

Is the silence from the House and Senate. They have to just be dying.

I read where they are so afraid of his violent minions and trolls that they are afraid to speak up.

That doesn't mean that they won't ultimately destroy him.

[mdbl]

21. Don't forget, right wing whackos think they are doing good when

libruls are upset. They don't give a Sh&^ what the reasons are - even if the reasons hurt them as well. Thanks to jerks on the radio and Fux news.

[jodymarie aimee]

28. come on, we are supposed to be the smart ones

EXPLODE. That is how the word is spelled.

[bucolic_frolic]

36. The public

will only share your perspective if the MSM tells them about it

We are being squeezed out.

[MFM008]

37. Comrade maggot

Has only just begun.

[Kablooie]

38. but wait until he takes the oath and actually assumes the reins of power.

That's when things will really start to happen.

Right now everything is just words.
Even many of his cabinet picks aren't certain until Congress confirms them.

Once he actually IS the president I expect that things will change because he will have the power to do something about the people who attack him.

He has to be dying to pay back everyone who's criticized him and once he sits at the desk and takes power, a torrent of terror will emanate from the White House, ( or Trump House as the case may be)

It's going to be scary.
He will threaten all the news services and everyone in Congress who tries to stand up to him.
He will also have his lawyers find ways to lash out at anyone who doesn't worship him.
He will try to find ways to punish states that don't approve of him.

It's going to be a nightmare, particularly because the Congress will allow him to do it.
Trump will ensure that anyone who goes against him will feel the wrath of Republican voters and they won't risk their seats in order to do the right thing.

It's not going to be pretty.

[still_one]

39. He is a f**king unstable idiot. Anyone with half a brain would not be tweeting the destabilizing

bullshit he has been doing, even if they believed.

No doubt he is intentionally doing it because that is the effect he want to portray

we are so screwed

[still_one]

40. With his racist, sexist, xenophobic platform is this really a surprise to anyone

[vlyons]

41. Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall

Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall.
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.
All the king's horses, and all the king's men
Couldn't Humpty together again.

?ver=6

[ailsagirl]

58. Oh, YES

This is what happens...

[benld74]

42. Seems like he can't shut his pie hole

Loves the attention

[Initech]

67. Or can't stop calling people losers. Or say something is failing.

Or denounce someone / something he doesn't agree with. I think he needs his toy taken away from him.

[Hekate]

43. Mad King Donald in His Golden Tower surrounded by his princelings & crown princess....

Waving his smart phone in his tiny hands and bellowing, "You can have my tweets when you pry them from my cold dead hands!"

[mobeau69]

44. Yep. A real shitshow.

He's in way over his fucking head. Got to get back to googling bomb shelters. See ya later.

[Lady Freedom Returns]

47. You know Ryan is just waiting...

He's got Pence in his pocket. So I am seeing amendment 25, section 4 getting used after 'he' is sworn in and before filling the SCOTUS position.

[lpbk2713]

50. He won't get any sympathy from me.

I can't wait until he is gone.

Whether he completes his term or not.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

52. Is it too early to start impeachment hearings?! (Half serous!)

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

53. How can anyone be surprised? He showed us who he was and is only going

to become a more impulsive, reckless, megalomaniacal, power-mad, bully in his presidency.

[ginnyinWI]

54. The media is under attack, and it's our only hope.

He has to be exposed, and often, and people have to see what he's doing and know it is harmful and wrong. The media is the only entity that can do that.

When enough people are informed, the people they vote for are going to do something to stop this thing.

[MountCleaners]

55. Teen Vogue

How long before he embarrassed himself by going after Teen Vogue? They have published a number of articles critical of the Tangerine Tyrant.

[40degreesflaps]

91. If That Were The Case...

...it would have happened during the campaign but it didn't.

We're originally from Ohio, still have friends and family there. The cold truth is that most Ohioans (especially away from the cities) love this guy. Eight points or more in a Presidential race is generally understood to be landslide territory but Trump carried it by almost ten points. Portman and Kasich both won their re-election races by deep double digits. It's not a progressive state and won't ever be. That's why Jill Stein didn't ask for it to be recounted. There was no hope.

Stephen Moore said the decision to run was made after he and Trump took a trip through the Rust Belt about two years ago, saw all the burned out factories and said someone had to find a way to deal with this. They did.

There's Pennsylvania as well. My father's family still lives there. Large SUVs were lining up next to the Amish churches giving them rides to the polls in numbers that have never been seen before. That's why he carried it when most Republicans don't.

The Democrats have a lot of work to do over the next decade or so. Last time this happened, they were out of the WH for twelve years and even then the Clintons coming in were far more moderate than what left in 1980. The identity politics have to go. Yes...I know that's how they pay the bills but it doesn't work in Ohio and Florida and those states determine these races. Whomever the Democrats run in 2020 (probably Warren) will never carry Virginia or North Carolina and absent another financial collapse not carry Ohio or Florida. 2020 will look like 1972. If you don't know about that race, ask someone you know who's over sixty. They'll explain it.

I think he aspires to be a modern day Andrew Jackson. He certainly isn't but that's what he'd like us to think.

[ailsagirl]

56. Good

KARMA

[logosoco]

57. The day after the election,

when I woke up in some sort of nightmare state, my 25 year old son texted me and said "Was it like this in 2000?" and I sent back "This is worse!"

And tRump has proven me right pretty much each day since then.

[40degreesflaps]

107. No...

...it wasn't like this in 2000 because the Clintons left us in a very different place economically. We were coming off the boom of the nineties and the demographic headwinds thing hadn't kicked in yet. Our big problem over at least the next five years will be lack of demand. That's why the housing market away from the coasts is shit. Millenials don't have the bucks for various reasons (school debt combined with a lack of opportunity in selected markets) and my wife says we're looking at a lost generation. I seem to remember the same sort of thing being said about Gen-X but here we are slowly greasing into the Boomers jobs. IBM is retirement city. If you go to the Atlanta Barfield offices, you'll really see it.

Did you know that 2017 represents the height of the Baby Boom? 1957 was the top birth year, some say due to popularity of the '57 Chevy Bel Air. Most people don't know that twenty percent of the Boomers are already gone. My parents are Silent Generation but a bunch of Boomers born in the forties have checked out over the past few years.

[raccoon]

122. I'll buy that, but can you tell us your source?

Most people don't know that twenty percent of the Boomers are already gone.

[40degreesflaps]

125. OK...

http://www.bbhq.com/bomrstat.htm

http://www.prb.org/Publications/Articles/2002/JustHowManyBabyBoomersAreThere.aspx

http://www.fortmorgantimes.com/ci_20010202

(third link is a little old but it essentially says what I've been saying)

[BigDemVoter]

59. Excuse my language, but I am so appalled with this motherfucker today that

I'm probably lucky he's nowhere around, as I don't want trouble with the Secret Service! What a despicable piece of SHIT.

I just finished reading about that motherfucker, Carl Paladino, who said our First Lady, Michelle, should be "set loose in the outback in Zimbabwe."

My outrage is such that I'm going to be incapable of avoiding it, and I'll be wanting to rub some Repig's nose in this shit. And yes, REPIG IS the appropriate word. They ARE fucking pigs.

[ailsagirl]

61. "Pride goeth before a fall"

[Bernardo de La Paz]

64. It's predictable. Sane Democrats (most) & sane Republicans (some) saw it coming. . . nt

[40degreesflaps]

119. We Knew...

...in the summer that Hillary was questionable. She never performed in Iowa which has caucuses early for a good reason. It has very conservative Republicans and very liberal Democrats. It has historically been a good measure of where the country is and 2016 was no different. Hillary won but statistically speaking the needle never got to the top peg on the meter. When she failed to carry Michigan, the DNC should have heard klaxons blaring in the background. When all that stuff about her stealing the nomination from Bernie came out in wikileaks, she should have been jettisoned then and there.

Now we live with the results. When we end up with Federal reciprocity for concealed carry in California and local police and sheriffs are helpless to do anything about it...you'll know why.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

120. Refighting the primaries has nothing to do with the obviousness of tRump's mental incapacity. . nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

121. A thread for your edification:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512666769

[kairos12]

65. Won't matter to him. It will be bad for the rest of us.

[bocaharv]

68. TRAUMA

What everyone fails to comprehend is that we have crossed a line & cannot return.The unplorables are blind to reason.They are riding a hate tsunami which has been fed by the powerful sociopaths like oxycodinlimbaugh & his ilk , as well as drudgea holic & breitfart among others.The super greedy billionaire are pouring boatloads of cash into this orange monster's lair & cackling all the way to Armageddon.The more they lose , the angrier they get & will always find a pinata to beat.Power is the only antidote to this disease & the only thing they understand.So buckle up folks , we're in for a storm of herculean proportions.

[pipi_k]

71. What an asshole

he is!

Acting like he's president before he's even sworn in. As if we don't already still HAVE a president for another few weeks.

Hopefully his mouth (and tweeting fingers) will only get him deeper into hot water, but not enough to end up killing us all.

Just enough for people to actually see what a crazy jackass he really is.

[yuiyoshida]

73. FRANKLY, I hope it Blows up in his face....

and he becomes the Sad FOOL of the entire planet.

[Stellar]

74. Donald Chump ain't seen nothing yet! It's going to get really ugly with in the next four years, or

however long that nutcase stays in office. There will be NO peace for the Trump KKkLan.

[40degreesflaps]

111. With Republicans...

...carrying everything they currently hold and the other guys being so exposed in 2018? I wouldn't think they're too concerned.

Sabato was talking about this. What happened in November was a big goddamn deal. Yuge!

I've been saying for years that Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida would decide the race and they did in a very big way. Politico ran a story just a few weeks ago discussing how Obama called Hillary after Florida fell, telling her to concede. If you carry them both, you can't lose because they're so big and remain the most important of the swing states. Obama had to know. She never performed in Iowa and the party still nominated her. It was a lethal mistake.

Michigan and Wisconsin were a shock. Arizona, given the dog and pony show Trump put on there was also somewhat of a surprise. I figured he was screwed but Bubba showed in large numbers and there is no reason to believe that will not happen in 2020.

It's called a realignment. We see these every so often. It's not the United States of California and Massachusetts.

[avebury]

75. The inauguration is just the beginning.

Throughout any President's term of office there are numerous times when the President invites A List celebrities to attend an occasion either as a guest or a performer. If he can't get anyone to perform at an Inauguration event who the heck does he think he will get to attend any one of numerous events that will occur during his Presidency? This is a man who cannot stand the thought of being embarrassed or ridiculed in public. He has 4 years of it ahead of himself (that is if he can even last that long in the job).

[40degreesflaps]

115. He's Not Going Anywhere...

...for one very important reason: his Cabinet. He will cover for them and they will cover for him.

I've been involved in politics for a lot of years and then in the IT consulting business for even longer so I'm a little jaded but even I was surprised at Rex Tillerson for Secretary of State. Baker, Cheney and Condi recommended him but I figured Bolton because KT was already on board and they're sort of a pair like a set of American Tourister luggage. If you have one, you have the other.

Someone else in Trump's inner circle is a young lady named Hope Hicks. That's important because she's an SMU grad. I went there for a year in the nineties to get certified in systems engineering and it is the ultimate southern rich kids school. Her grandfather ran PR for Texaco in the seventies. Oil, gas and real estate have multiple seats at the big table in this administration which means the alternative energy folks are gonna be dog shit real soon. That also happened after Carter. I worry about Berkeley Lab, given that all they seem to work on over there is green stuff. Maybe their workload will shift.

A lot of what's happening reminds me of the early Reagan days but most of these people are more conservative than anyone Reagan ever dared to nominate. Wilbur Ross? Betsy DeVos? Rick Perry? Jesus! I almost choked on my sandwich. Okay...but they own everything and with all those Senate seats exposed in 2018, new census numbers not due until 2020 and reapportionment until around 2022, they're gonna get away with it.

Here's the really big change you definitely want to keep your eye on: the next Fed chairman. I would bet you a one hundred dollar bill that it's gonna be this guy:

http://www.johnbtaylor.com

Everything I have seen so far points to it. Taylor has been on the Republicans' short list for Fed chairman for ages just as I believe Pryor will be Trump's nominee to replace Scalia. Scalia was a strict constructionist and Pryor is a strict constructionist. Scalia was a gun guy and Pryor is a gun guy. It'll happen.

[applegrove]

80. I'm calling him 'IL IGNORANTO'

[vkkv]

81. What are everyday people in MO saying?

Let me guess - We love Trump!

[leftyladyfrommo]

83. No.. I have only talked to 3.

One voted for Trump because he had enough if those Clintons.

One thought we needed to shake things up.

And one just didn't trust Hillary - Benghazi, you know. Or that oh so perfect Obama because he said ISIS didn't matter. Or something like that

[Mc Mike]

84. Let's keep opening up new fronts. Keep pounding him until he busts a gasket. rec,nt

[leftyladyfrommo]

86. I think that might be the plan

It's a good one.

He has so many fires to put out now and many more to come. He still has the rape trial coming up. Abd all kinds of conflicts of interest questions.

And all the constitutional questions.

Plus an inauguration that no one wants to be caught dead at.

[Mc Mike]

92. It couldn't happen to a nicer tubby bald orange nazi. Nt

[40degreesflaps]

88. During The Campaign...

...the media literally hit him with everything they had and failed. He's not going anywhere.

Hillary failed because she was a bad candidate. Do you understand that she spent over a billion dollars and got nothing for it? That's a hell of a lot of money even by today's standards.

We've been here before. Normally, the party boosted from power after a realignment election spends 10-15 years in the wilderness raising money and trying to rebuild itself. This will be no different. It's bad. Seventy five percent of Ohio districts are represented by Republicans and basically never turn over.

A friend of my wife's was on Romney's advance team for California and says had the party insisted on Bernie, he could have won.

She should never have been nominated.

[RBInMaine]

94. It's not that simple. The 3rd party candidates, email shit, Comey letter, bad DNC...

fucked up electoral college system, and her team's wrong game-plan of trying to run up a score with urban and suburban Republican and Republican-leaning women instead of shoring up the working class base in the rust belt all contributed to the loss. Remember, she won the popular vote by nearly three million, just not in the right places. That is what the party fundamentally has to fix. It needs to be the party of EVERYONE EVERYWHERE again.

[40degreesflaps]

98. OK...

...let's look at that. The Electoral system isn't going anywhere. Deal with it. The Founders put it in place to protect the small states in the south and that is precisely what it has done for 240 years.

Yes, Hillary's ignoring the Rust Belt was a big part of it. We know Bill was telling the DNC as early as June that they shouldn't ignore the white working class. Why did they do that? That isn't where the money is and of course Trump never needed money. Resources are raised at the extremes of the spectrum, environmentalists for the left and oil/gas/real estate for the right. This is Political Science 101 stuff. I learned that thirty years ago when all I had to worry about was making grades, showing up for work at my job in the computer store, fixing machines in customers' homes on the side and getting drunk every night.

You have a point. The party has to have a broad base again but it's gonna be a hell of a long time before that happens. History tells us about 10-15 years. We'll be retired but I might still be working projects here and there because frankly, if I just stop I might die. IBM did a study many years ago that showed something like seventy percent of its employees who weren't exclusively cube dwellers died within a year of getting their gold watch. They work because it's what they're good at, not because they get paid. I've seen it over and over again. My father sold insurance and real estate for forty years and says the exact same thing. You have to remain active or you've had it.

[leftyladyfrommo]

95. I don't believe that at all.

Hillary won by more votes than Obama did. I don't think it helped that her name is Clinton. At least that hurt here in Missouri but Missouri votes Republican no matter what.

And I think the Republicans pulled off an incredible smear job on her that went back years and years just like they did to Bill Clinton .

I like and really admire Hillary Clinton.

[40degreesflaps]

100. Great...

...admire her all you want but from the perspective of those who fund these campaigns, she's a two time loser. Her stats folks knew in the summer she wasn't measuring up. If you are the standard bearer in the Democratic party and can't carry Michigan (birthplace of the United Auto Workers) in a walk, something is very wrong and this case it was the candidate. One concern almost no one is discussing right now is the early signs of Michigan going the way of Ohio in terms of demographics and voting patterns. Snyder signed Right To Work awhile back and that gutted what was left of organized labor which is how the party at least used to fund races and the day to day of operations. Without that cow to milk on a regular basis, the party rots from the inside out. That's what happened when Cuyahoga county lost its industry and now it's happening in Wayne and Macomb. I did a little work there for IBM several years ago and you could just see the suburbs having that nice, stable underpinning while everyone else sucked air. I did stay in a 1930s era hotel downtown that had been redone and looked a set from The Sting. They had some of the best room service I've ever eaten and it was affordable. I was shocked.

This isn't exactly breaking new ground. Every single Political Science undergrad knows this stuff or at least they should.

Even Howard Dean, when offered the DNC post, said no...it's time to pass the torch. Howie's no dummy.

I should have gotten that MA in American politics. School bored me, all I wanted was to play with computers. I had to make a living.

[nini]

97. OH bullshit

The Media did NOT hit him with everything they had - puhlease..they practically fell over themselves trying to normalize him.

Hillary won the popular vote by a huge major. A 'bad' candidate would have had the opposite result.

Bernie would have been destroyed by the repukes.. He was never really vetted publicly in the primaries and do you really think he would have been treated by trump like he was by Hillary? Anyone who truly believes Bernie wouldn't have been trashed beyond recognition is extremely naive in the political sense.

[40degreesflaps]

99. (sigh)

We're not all watching Fox. MSNBC and CNN manhandled Donnie boy very nicely. I thought Van Jones was going to require sedation.

We don't elect Presidents by popular vote. We never did.

Judy's pretty sharp and I trust her judgment. A friend of mine who comes from a background as an SAP Basis admin, then an ABAP developer said Bernie was the second coming of George McGovern would agree with you so...who? You can forget about Warren in 2020. When the banks get hold of her, she'll look like the brats that are sitting downstairs in my fridge.

Another guy I know said in about ten years the party will be forced to nominate a fortyish populist, a left wing Trump. There's no room for someone like that right now nor will there be for a number of years to come. It would have to be someone who talks to Ohio/Pennsylvania/Florida and there is no one like that on the radar right now. Richard Cordray might fit the bill but he reminds me of a midwestern Dukakis and we've shown that doesn't work. Tim Ryan is clearly an up-and-comer but his challenge to Pelosi fell flat...and why? MONEY. Nancy's daughter said her mom would have retired years ago if not for the big contributors so what does that mean? Some very necessary changes in the party are today nowhere in sight. The money is raised at the extremes, Ohio/Pennsylvania and Florida be damned. FINE. That's why this happened.

The party itself will have to change and when it does so many things will have shifted in the judicial branch that we'll be starting from square one. This was a huge loss. Bannon says if he gets what he wants, they'll govern for fifty years. We'll see.

[nini]

101. *Yawn*

[40degreesflaps]

105. Yawn...

...all you want but the goddamn sitting chairman of ExxonMobil is about to become Secretary of State and Rick Perry is about to take charge of a Cabinet level agency he has said he would love to destroy. I thought sure Bolton would get the job at State and when I heard it was Tillerson I looked at the beer I was drinking and thought someone might have spiked it.

Are you still yawning? Maybe I can get you some caffeine.

[FreeStateDemocrat]

113. Our only hope is that they over-reach, while they win elections they have been horrible at governing

The idiot son was in for 8 years and the result was two unnecessary wars costing 4 trillion and counting. They also destabilized the Middle East with "nation building" and then the cherry on the shit sundae was the economic meltdown with the resulting "Great Recession." Even the willfully ignorant listeners of the right wing noise machine will get the message if their savior tanks the underclass into a significantly deeper morass and that is very possible, but only after the damage is done. We have lost the Supreme Court for a generation or longer and that will be a total game changer that will make extremely difficult for any viable future for the democratic party. So, bottom line, I agree we are doomed (also she was a bad candidate with way too many negatives)!!!

[40degreesflaps]

114. Oh...

...I don't think there's any doubt of that. It's human nature to want more even if it isn't warranted. In the systems world, we always want more memory or more CPU or more bandwidth. I've got a few hours in the air and pilots always want to go faster. I always said the worst thing in the world for most people would be to win the lottery. Be careful what you wish for. Most lottery winners (especially those who win the big pots) are broke or dead within a few years.

You take care of your family. If something overwhelmingly positive happens to you financially, don't be a moron and don't be greedy. I would make sure my wife (grew up poor) and if it was enough money, her family would never sweat again. My parents? To hell with them. They already have dough and they help no one but themselves. I might pay for my cousin's college given that his dad has a history of cancer and my sister doesn't make a lot of money. He's sort of a precocious type and she wouldn't have the means. Her daughter just finished at Miami of Ohio and is getting hooked up to one of those guys who majored in Finance, is ridiculously good looking and combs his hair across the front. He comes from money and strikes me as the type who would eventually cheat on her. They do that and if I found out it happened, I might pay him a visit. She's fair haired and innocent...for now.

And after that was all done? Yeah...I want a Cessna (not new - NEVER) and an out of the way affordable place to park it. We worked out way through school and no one lives forever. House? Got one. Cars? Got one. Computer? I build my own, cheap.

[janx]

110. Don't forget the China/Taiwan debacle.

His crazy opinions about the recent UN vote.

Syria


There's even more, and the guy hasn't even been sworn in yet! I feel like sticking my head in the sand but know that I can't.

[USALiberal]

124. And I hope this is just the beginning!

[Scurrilous]

127. K & R