Just in case you thought there was future dem control of anything

[uponit7771]

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/voter-turnout-2016-elections/

Fourteen states installed new restrictive voting laws, which have historically targeted minorities, before the 2016 election, including in Wisconsin and Ohio. And this general election was the first since the Supreme Court struck down a key provision of the Voting Rights Act in 2013 that required federal approval on any state election law.

Neil Albrecht, executive director of the Milwaukee Election Commission, said voter identification laws hurt turnout in the city’s high-poverty districts this month, noting that 41,000 fewer people voted there in 2016 than in 2012

However, the Brennan Center for Justice, nonpartisan law and policy institute, said there has not been enough data collected to determine the laws’ impact on the election.

So.... how many votes did Clinton lose Wisconsin by?

This is a warning people; if we ran Obama JFK, FDR, Lincoln, RayGun and the RayGun dog all wrapped into one person they can STILL ... STILL ... STILL take these elections from us ...

The 2000 election was stolen the same way, 20,000 Americans were purged from the voter rolls in Florida using similar software as Cross Check... there would be no Bush if there was no voter suppression.

Like a laser we should focus on getting rid of this James Crow oppression that strips America of a progressive future.

Your take?

tia

[LaydeeBug]

1. Remember in 2000 when all of those KGOP staffers flew to Florida

and the press reported them as an angry mob?

It's like they've been at this for a while, and we are honing our message instead of fighting the fight.

[uponit7771]

2. +1, I think some of them even used sharp objects on a person. Point being those fuckers don't care

... about stabbing a person to win.

We should be at least WILLING to start doing our own stabbing if it came down to it...

Fuck that, If I was the person someone would've gotten shanked... then it wouldn't be all fun and games and shit.

[JHan]

3. I've seen several posts on this board downplaying voter suppression.

Might lead one to think many democrats aren't serious about it - and we should be.

[LaydeeBug]

4. YES!!!! It's not *OUR* message, it's THEIR malfeasance.

and this time, it absolutely cost us the WH and down ballot tickets.

[uponit7771]

6. +1, also... notice the coward ass'd polling in the voter suppression states that were projected

... to Clinton haven't spoke they punk ass's up?!

Simple high school math could project the effects of some of the voting suppression efforts in those states if the margins are close and that's when voter suppression is most effective.

In 2000 and now voter suppression was a main factor in the loss of the WH...

I'm not letting up on this issue, ride or die with it

[LaydeeBug]

7. They ACT like..."oh, well if you can't show us Vlad actually switching code, then...

just lick your wounds and hone your message. Ok...

The message is...these motherfuckers keep breaking the law and suppressing voters.

[uponit7771]

5. Like this election they still think they have the numbers, they do if those numbers weren't ....

... suppressed and the outcome of suppression not back paged by the M$M.

This issue...... RATIONALLY ..... and LOGICALLY ... should be the laser focus issue of the DNC.... without it fuck a message and a candidate and a plan and a whatever.

Voter suppression along with Gerrymandering and we got at the state levels what we have now... not a damn thAng

[msongs]

8. 8 years of appeasing republicans is paying off.... nt

[uponit7771]

9. +1, time to say fuck off to them like KingCon does the American people... cause we can tell folk

... don't give a damn if he has conflicts etc

[lastlib]

10. "...years of appeasing republicans is paying off"....

...for republicans.

It ends Here. Now. "We shall fight them in the fields and in the streets..."

[jodymarie aimee]

16. why are we always late to the party

Gerrymandered, voter suppression on steroids here in WI and we just watched it happen. Why are we always 10 steps behind? Because we are not crooks and we are earnest and honest? Fuck that, look what we are up against. Our state has been burned to the ground. We will not reverse this stuff until after I am dead.

[milestogo]

17. Its because we care about VALUES and all they care about is POWER.

[CrispyQ]

18. The dems haven't been a true opposition party for decades.

You think they're going to turn on a dime? They didn't just drop the ball - they lost the game.

[Binkie The Clown]

11. Just in case you thought there was a future for ANYONE to control....

A wake up call in three words: "Runaway global warming."

[First Speaker]

12. If it reaches the point of open Jim Crow again...if they take the mask off...what do we do?

...how do we respond to quite literal attacks on the very basis of liberal democracy? Should blacks have taken up arms in 1877, to resist their disenfranchisement? Would a second Civil War have been too great a price to pay, to avoid the stain of segregation and a century of second class citizenship? If the GOP openly manipulates voting rights to ensure their permanent dominance...what should the Left's reaction be? I don't ask these questions because I claim to have the answers. But people--many people--have died to protect voting rights; to protect liberal democracy. What are we prepared to *do*?

[uponit7771]

15. Use KingCons tactics against him... Start a bigger less dangerous fire to illuminate the smaller

...More dangerous one.

In this case call for voter restrictions that target mostly whites the same why the GOP is targeting PoC.

Just a thought

[czarjak]

13. If you can't beat 'em...

Cheat 'em. Repeat?

[uponit7771]

14. Health... I have a tactic...Might use KingCons moves on the GOP