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Sun Dec 25, 2016, 12:02 AM

Deconstructing "IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE"

Mr. Potter never engaged in nepotism by hiring his Uncle, and giving him the responsibility of caring for other people’s money.

The Bedford Falls Government hires incompetent public officials, like the tollkeeper who doesn’t notice someone fall over the side of the bridge he's responsible for.

Clearly, Mr. Potter doesn't evict everyone who has a mortgage with the Building & Loan; otherwise they wouldn't have the money to patronize the music halls and clubs in Pottersville.

Do you remember a bar in Bedford Falls? Didn’t they learn the lessons of Prohibition?

At the end of the movie, George Bailey’s daughter says: “Teacher says: ‘when a bell rings, an Angel gets its wings’”. A clear Church-State violation.

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Reply Deconstructing "IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE" (Original post)
brooklynite Dec 2016 OP
calendargirl Dec 2016 #1
brooklynite Dec 2016 #2
yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #4
brooklynite Dec 2016 #6
yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #27
shadowrider Dec 2016 #28
yeoman6987 Dec 2016 #29
Warpy Dec 2016 #10
oberliner Dec 2016 #11
Warpy Dec 2016 #12
oberliner Dec 2016 #14
Warpy Dec 2016 #15
oberliner Dec 2016 #16
madaboutharry Dec 2016 #3
calendargirl Dec 2016 #5
CBHagman Dec 2016 #7
First Speaker Dec 2016 #8
brooklynite Dec 2016 #9
Chellee Dec 2016 #17
jberryhill Dec 2016 #13
betsuni Dec 2016 #18
Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #19
pinboy3niner Dec 2016 #20
meaculpa2016 Dec 2016 #21
Warren DeMontague Dec 2016 #22
mindfulNJ Dec 2016 #23
mucifer Dec 2016 #26
sl8 Dec 2016 #24
ProfessorGAC Dec 2016 #25

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 12:04 AM

1. Too much egg nog tonite? Nt

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Response to calendargirl (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 12:08 AM

2. Red wine; but I've always HATED that movie...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 12:19 AM

4. You are in the minority I would imagine

 

You are the only one who has ever said they hate that movie. Most love it. I like it but my favorite is the Christmas carol with George c Scott 1984. Always watch it Christmas Eve. Which I did tonight.

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 12:24 AM

6. Now THAT is a classic...

...although, my favorite Christmas movie is the 1947 version of MIRACLE ON 34TH STREET.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:48 AM

27. You know what? You are right. I love the orig miracle on 346th street.

 

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Response to yeoman6987 (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:13 AM

28. That was a good version

but I prefer the 1951 version with Alistair Sim

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Response to shadowrider (Reply #28)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:16 AM

29. I don't think I watched that version but will give it a try.

 

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:30 AM

10. The main problem I had with it is that

Potterstown looked like a lot more fun than boring Bedford Falls. It's a product of its time, the end of WWII and the fading of Depression traumas when people just wanted to get "normal" and have a clutch of kids and a house in the burbs. Capra's glurge fed directly into the propaganda push that got women fired from the best jobs they'd ever had and told to get married and back into the kitchen.

By the time I was ten, I realized I preferred the music and lights of Potterstown. His overpriced shacks weren't any worse than some of the dumps we'd lived in and I was sick of the stifling suburban life that seemed to suck the joy and energy out of everybody.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #10)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:40 AM

11. Do you mean Pottersville?

 

Pawn brokers, strip clubs, and bars replacing the Building and Loan, movie theatre, and retail store?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:47 AM

12. You can bet those businesses were still thriving off camera

since old man Potter would never turn down any way to make a buck. The Bailey S&L would have been a convenient branch of his own bank. There is nothing like a few honky tonks to liven up a dull small town and break up the stultifying monotony dictated by local Puritans.

To each his own, I guess.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:51 AM

14. Seemed like people were generally rude and angry in Pottersville

 

Doesn't seem like a friendly place at all.

Whereas in Bedford Falls, the people seem to genuinely care about one another, for the most part.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #14)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:59 AM

15. A couple of pixilated strangers with no money go into a dive bar

and try ordering a frou frou drink and people got upset?

Don't forget that Bailey sassed his kid's teacher and got punched in the nose by her husband in Bedford Falls. Otherwise, the people there seemed like cult members, they were all so squeaky clean.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 02:04 AM

16. OK

 

It just seemed like people were generally angry and hostile in the Pottersville sequence and people were generally kind and friendly in Bedford Falls. I didn't notice anyone who seemed like cult members.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 12:10 AM

3. Does anyone really believe

that Mary (Donna Reed) would have ended up a mousy "old maid" if George Bailey didn't marry her?

That was just ridiculous.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 12:23 AM

5. Nope...

She would've been riding Sam Wainwright- hee haw!!

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Response to calendargirl (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 12:28 AM

7. Naah, she has too much poetry for that.

I've heard this issue discussed before, and the general agreement is that Mary Hatch would have been just fine, but it's stretching things a bit to say she'd have gone for Sam Wainwright. She wouldn't want a show-off.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:00 AM

8. Wasn't there a bar run by Sheldon Leonard...?

...where George gets beaten up by the husband of one of his kids' teacher...?

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Response to First Speaker (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:02 AM

9. "Beaten Up" is an ugly word...

George and Francis got kicked out for taking up space and not paying for drinks.

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Response to First Speaker (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 02:09 AM

17. Not exactly.

He gets punched by the teacher'e husband in Martini's, where Nick (Sheldon Leonard) works.

He gets thrown out of Nick's because they didn't need any "characters giving the joint atmosphere," where Sheldon Leonard's character owns the bar.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 01:49 AM

13. It's a movie

 


If your uncle drinks in the daytime, don't send him to the bank with your money.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 03:51 AM

18. The timeline has always confused me.

Harry Bailey graduates high school in 1929, then we're told George waits four years for his brother to come back and replace him at the building & loan. So that would be 1933. But it seems strange, more like the autumn of 1929, that George and Mary have a big wad of cash to go on their honeymoon, and the panic at the bank.

And no way Mary was an old maid. She would've been pushed into marrying Sam by her mother and ended up miserable with a secret drinking problem, but a hell of a jewelry and clothes collection.

My favorite line is the Bailey's maid who says she's been saving up money for a divorce if ever she got a husband. After I got married I told everyone that now I'd have to start saving money for a divorce, but nobody thought that was amusing. They looked away, disgusted.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 05:46 AM

19. What the fuck is Mr. Gower even doing with all that rat poison in the first place?

How many rats does he have?

Something's not right with this "Pharmacy"

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Response to Warren DeMontague (Reply #19)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 06:39 AM

20. The movie has an angel in it and you think it's the rat poison that isn't realistic?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 07:15 AM

21. Why would anyone in his right mind...

give up his dreams of adventure out of a misplaced sense of responsibility to people who were ready to throw him into prison because his aforementioned idiot uncle lost $8,000?

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Response to meaculpa2016 (Reply #21)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 07:48 AM

22. Truly; it were an Ayn Rand work, he would have delivered a 40 page monologue on the value of

selfishness, then raped someone and blown some shit up.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 08:14 AM

23. I love the movie but

One of the things that has always bothered me about it is the depiction of Mary in the alternate life as a sad, dried up spinster without George. She was the "prettiest girl in town" and would have married Sam Wainright. i also get a kick out the scene where Mary makes a wish and throws a rock at the old house. She wished for George to never leave Bedford Falls, effectively denying everything he'd ever wanted out of life. Mary is a selfish bitch. 😄

Merry Christmas!

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Response to mindfulNJ (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:21 AM

26. Are there really only 2 single men in that town? Couldn't she just find someone else?

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 08:18 AM

24. Adam Ruins Everything - It's a Wonderful Life

"Ever wonder why 'It's a Wonderful Life' plays on TV every Christmastime?"

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 08:38 AM

25. What A Bah Humbug Thread

Shhesh!

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