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Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:39 AM

Should Congress be on vacation at this time?

Yes, we all know it is Christmas but does it seem to any of them that our country is in crisis?

It seems to me that Russian involvement in our election process would demand that they stay in Washington until they get to the bottom of it. That would mean working 24/7 around the clock.

But they blow it off as if it never happened. Anyway, if it did, it just isn't that important.

But, I guess it wouldn't be right to intrude on their much needed vacations?

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Reply Should Congress be on vacation at this time? (Original post)
kentuck Dec 2016 OP
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Iggo Dec 2016 #3
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kacekwl Dec 2016 #5
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:42 AM

1. Much of congress is there for their paychecks, benefits, to stroke their egos and to

pad the way for financial rewards for them and their cronies. Some do care deeply about the future of this country, but many are there for the ride IMO. Otherwise, their approval ratings would be just a bit higher.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 09:43 AM

2. What do they care?

They've got their cushy jobs and don't want to rock the boat.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 10:45 AM

3. They should never be on vacation. (n/t)

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 11:12 AM

4. Anything they would do isn't going to

help anyone but the 1% so they can take next year off if they want.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 11:23 AM

5. Doesn't matter , only bad

things happen with them around. Most useless group of moochers ever.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 07:10 PM

6. Why not?

The view that there's a crisis is strictly partisan. I don't like Trump, didn't vote for him and would rather move to a place with a nice tropical climate like Rochester, NY, before voting for him.

Nonetheless, I don't see the crisis. A crisis is of short-term duration. Congress hasn't finalized the electors' decision, and the "crisis" will be during that session in chambers. After that, the representatives running the Republic will have spoken, and will still retain a lot of control over the Republic. There's that whole checks-and-balances sort of rot that they tried to get us to accept in middle school. Not that many of us believe it--we want a strong leader that gets things done.
"Viva il duce" is their slogan. Perhaps in Latin, vivat dux, is better. There's always the German equivalent, "Heil, mein fuehrer." Pays to remember in this context that "heil" is related to "healthy" and "hale."

Still, all the doom-and-gloom about how horrible the policies he's enacted already is out of place, if only because he's not enacted any policies yet. Just as Obama found that even harshly (D) policies he wanted enacted didn't always get a friendly reaction from the (D) Congress, so the Trumpster will find that his policies (if he actually has any) won't always receive a friendly reaction from the (R) Congress. I don't see him rounding up legislators and suspending habeas corpus any time soon. (As a Marylander by birth, the referent to that allusion is all too apparent, and I'd note that when the Republican president who did that was rebuked by the court nobody bothered to impeach him. Instead, he's sort of a hero for many. Viva il duce.)

It's also worth pointing out that united Executive and 2x chambers of Congress typically enjoy a very short duration. The American public likes slow change, when it's change they like. They vote in gridlock because each side is anxious, eager, hankering after fast change. Think of a divided government as a choke-chain on a dog. If we're a single country with a "we the people", and that's less and less true each year as more and more say that "we the people" is entirely us and not at all them, that's to be expected, and when it's our dog in power we object strenuously to the use of the choke-chain, however we praise its efficacy when it's choking the other side's bastard. But the representatives in charge of our representation should represent what it's supposed to be representing, the representees, as it were. Anything less is a nice will-to-power with either rule by the elite or rule by the proletariat (with a gnat's wing of difference between the two pox-ridden houses), replete with damn-the-democracy-full-speed-ahead talk. Many Republicans are not republican; many Democrats are not democratic.

Those who like will-to-power and damn-the-democracy, right and left, get highly impatient and frustrated when thwarted. They miss the big picture. The Republic will continue until the populace has lost enough faith in the institutions that they've come to rely on and decide that some short-term fix for short-term gains that favors one class or party (sensu lato) over the other is not only preferable but should be and is implemented. Both sides are hell-bent in advancing that time.

I wish they'd stop.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Dec 25, 2016, 07:11 PM

7. They don't give a shit

There's no benefit to them to want a real democracy.

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