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babylonsister

(171,054 posts)
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 08:58 PM Dec 2016

Maxine Waters: A Problem With Democrats Is That We're Too Nice to Other Side

Maxine Waters: A Problem With Democrats Is That We’re Too ‘Nice’ to Other Side
by Josh Feldman | 6:42 pm, December 26th, 2016
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Congresswoman Maxine Waters said on MSNBC today that one of the problems her party has is that they tend to be too “nice.”

She told Jacob Soboroff, “That has been a problem in my party, that when we’re in power we’re nice. We bend over backwards to work with people. Trump has stepped over everybody.”

Waters was responding to Democrats already expressing a willingness to try and work with President-elect Donald Trump, saying, “I have no intention of pretending everything’s all right.”

She even said she wouldn’t even bother sitting down with Trump because she just doesn’t trust him.



http://www.mediaite.com/online/maxine-waters-a-problem-with-democrats-is-that-were-too-nice-to-other-side/

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Maxine Waters: A Problem With Democrats Is That We're Too Nice to Other Side (Original Post) babylonsister Dec 2016 OP
Go Maxine! Get out there and scream it !!! Nobody else will!!! pangaia Dec 2016 #1
1+ RiverStone Dec 2016 #13
But they are NOT doing it ! Just a few brave souls have woken out of their selfish slumber.. pangaia Dec 2016 #23
You're right RiverStone Dec 2016 #38
Shout it from the rooftops! brooklynboy49 Dec 2016 #44
Republicans control both houses of congress. SaschaHM Dec 2016 #2
Yep Cosmocat Dec 2016 #9
This! All day long. k and r LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #45
Well that is certainly true of Obama. milestogo Dec 2016 #3
We've been nice for too long! demosincebirth Dec 2016 #4
We are too nice, too ethical, too fair, too honest. TNNurse Dec 2016 #5
YES! We need to DO IT ASAP ! JoeOtterbein Dec 2016 #33
Democrats are getting ready truebluegreen Dec 2016 #6
sporks can cut JoeOtterbein Dec 2016 #35
Valuable asset in a gun fight, clearly. truebluegreen Dec 2016 #36
Then perhaps we should stop it Va Lefty Dec 2016 #7
Gee . . . ya think???? Vinca Dec 2016 #8
... NWCorona Dec 2016 #10
Exactly. Democrats need to learn to be ruthless to Republicans. backscatter712 Dec 2016 #11
Yay, Maxine! Dems should do unto the R's as they did unto us wordpix Dec 2016 #12
They will be universally bad bills anyway. Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #17
gee when dems won't fight tooth and nail for their own values they lose the respect of voters. msongs Dec 2016 #14
Oh my God I have been saying this for years! Maraya1969 Dec 2016 #15
Maxine. I said that, and then got some libertarian loving DUer telling me I was wrong Feeling the Bern Dec 2016 #16
Well we agree bdamomma Dec 2016 #18
WHEN I SAY WE I MEAN ME !!! We all need to get off our boots and shout when Jim Beard Dec 2016 #19
One reason why rural america doesn't realize that the gop is a significant wiggs Dec 2016 #20
I agree that we have been too nice. Especially those in Congress. LiberalFighter Dec 2016 #21
GOOD! I'm glad someone is saying it Bettie Dec 2016 #22
Fuck yes!!! Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #24
Ya think??? tavernier Dec 2016 #25
Newt Gingrich Dave in VA Dec 2016 #26
Agreed Flatpicker Dec 2016 #27
Bingo! colsohlibgal Dec 2016 #28
Maxine is 100% correct on all accounts Stinky The Clown Dec 2016 #29
Too nice, or too incremental? TonyPDX Dec 2016 #30
YES! When they go low, do what you need to survive . (yes, period) . (again) . JoeOtterbein Dec 2016 #31
*We're* not! It's the feckless Third Way/DNC corporate lackeys! Roland99 Dec 2016 #32
We need a strong leader. Someone, I think, like Biden...but with more years ahead of him/her. C Moon Dec 2016 #34
We NEED A FIDEL ! THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED. YOU DON'T PLAY NICE WITH NAZI'S YOHABLO Dec 2016 #37
Yay, Maxine Waters! raging moderate Dec 2016 #39
I've wondered for a long time when our party was going to get this through their thick heads. Crunchy Frog Dec 2016 #40
That's all good, but Joe Manchin & possibly Heidi Heitkamp will probably cross lines a lot during... Tarheel_Dem Dec 2016 #41
dumpence have proven they can't be trusted.. neither can dumputin. Cha Dec 2016 #42
K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #43
My number one criterion going forward is, "Will you FIGHT them?" LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #46
Where Are The "We Don't Want To Sink To Their Level" Folks? ProfessorGAC Dec 2016 #47
maxine for DNC chair DonCoquixote Dec 2016 #48
Dems need to change that ASAP. pressbox69 Dec 2016 #49
I love her! Always have! Generator Dec 2016 #50
Recommended. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #51

RiverStone

(7,228 posts)
13. 1+
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 09:57 PM
Dec 2016

Too bad it took the election of a fascist to finally motivate them to kick ass/obstruct the same way rethuglicans do.

 

brooklynboy49

(287 posts)
44. Shout it from the rooftops!
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:17 AM
Dec 2016

Our #1 priorities should be to obstruct, obstruct, obstruct and make Trumpf a half-term president.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
2. Republicans control both houses of congress.
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 09:04 PM
Dec 2016

If Trump can't pass his agenda with 100% of them, Dems should let it die. We shouldn't be in the business of rescuing legislation that his own party won't pass.

Cosmocat

(14,561 posts)
9. Yep
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 09:28 PM
Dec 2016

After the shit the rs pulled the last 8 years?

All it takes is one soft headed D voting for whatever crazy ass shit they come up with and they run away from it with "well, Ds voted for it, too!"

That is their defecto IWR comeback.

Make them OWN their shit

TNNurse

(6,926 posts)
5. We are too nice, too ethical, too fair, too honest.
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 09:23 PM
Dec 2016

Do we have to learn to cheat and lie and say horrible things about people? Can we do it?

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
6. Democrats are getting ready
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 09:24 PM
Dec 2016

to bring a spork to a gun fight...again. One is tempted to think they don't actually want to win.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
12. Yay, Maxine! Dems should do unto the R's as they did unto us
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 09:53 PM
Dec 2016

that means blocking every bill brought before the Senate.

msongs

(67,394 posts)
14. gee when dems won't fight tooth and nail for their own values they lose the respect of voters.
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:03 PM
Dec 2016

better to go down swinging than get in the box cars

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
15. Oh my God I have been saying this for years!
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:04 PM
Dec 2016

I've suggested some things that might not be so kosher and so many people get their panties in a bunch saying, "That's not allowed!!!" Meanwhile we are in a fight with a group that blatantly break rules just because they can . And of course they get away with it because Democrats just sit there and do nothing.

You can only be a doormat is you lie down and be a doormat.

When are Democrats going to fight fire with fire?

And, what I want to know is, why hasn't anything of Trump's or the RNC's been hacked and leaked? That would stop them from hacking us but is it because it is "against the law" Fuck the law man, we were beat up and spit out by the Russian hackers and no on proposes to do anything back to them.

And don't try and tell me we don't have the ability because we do.

Even this thing with Tom Arnold pisses me off. He is scared but why aren't people offering him ways to protect himself and what about the other people who know what he knows? Grow some balls!

Why isn't what he knows hacked and leaked so no one has to take responsibility for it?

That is they way the Russians do it!

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
16. Maxine. I said that, and then got some libertarian loving DUer telling me I was wrong
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:06 PM
Dec 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028400911

Yes, I'm sick of Democrats always talking about the high road and getting their legs cut out from under them.

"We lost, but at least we were polite and respectful." FUCK THAT NOISE!!!

It's time to use their shit against them. No mercy, no quarter. And no let up.

I know their playbook and I know how to use it against them.

Their playbook is the following:

1: Lie, then lie about lying -- just keep hitting with facts until:
2: Call you the typical angry liberal -- now it's insult time: Call the typical brain dead asshole conservatard and then you get:
3: Tell you "I know liberals where supposed to be tolerant." -- them the you are intolerant to nazis, sexists, racists, etc, until:
4: They say they aren't a nazi/sexist/racist/bigot -- tell them they voted for one and that's all you need.

And if their lackeys in the media like Fuckie Toad, Wolf the Douche, or anyone at Fox News tries to put their passive aggressive whining, nail them with their shit too.

Hit hard, hit repeatedly, hit with force and don't stop hitting until there is nothing left of the body.

Hit below the belt. Hit from behind! Time to show them the same respect they show us.

Usually now, they are drooling on themselves. Keep hitting them. Call them anti-American and give a list of reasons way.

Call them America hating and give them a list of reasons way.

Tell them to leave the country if they hate it here so much. Give them a list of libertarian, socially conservative places that are Christian theocracies: Uganda could be good.

Accuse them of being invaders and that they support the murder of native Americans.

FUCK, use their fucking playbook again them! It isn't hard!

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
18. Well we agree
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:13 PM
Dec 2016

Maxine Waters doesn't trust him I can agree with that!!!

Yes stop playing nice. Also I would love to see McConnell get his balls crushed too.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
19. WHEN I SAY WE I MEAN ME !!! We all need to get off our boots and shout when
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:17 PM
Dec 2016

confronted. It will fire us and our leaders up.

wiggs

(7,811 posts)
20. One reason why rural america doesn't realize that the gop is a significant
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:19 PM
Dec 2016

source of most of their economic and foreign policy problems...

Hillary didn't rip the gop because she wanted crossover republican votes....could have honestly talked about the gop record instead and in hindsight might have done something.

Bettie

(16,086 posts)
22. GOOD! I'm glad someone is saying it
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 10:55 PM
Dec 2016

Why work with people who have proven again and again that they can and will not work with others. That the only compromise they will accept is complete capitulation.

Now, if only others in congress would take this tack.

You'd think that after however many years, Charlie Brown would realize that Lucy will always pull the football away.

Dave in VA

(2,037 posts)
26. Newt Gingrich
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 11:27 PM
Dec 2016

Newt Gingrich years ago said that liberals were afraid of seeing blood. They would never be able to turn the knife and make the kill and that is why they will ultimately lose.

Think he may be on to something?

Wish they would fight like it was their own lives on the line for a change!



Flatpicker

(894 posts)
27. Agreed
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 11:33 PM
Dec 2016

But I think that the Dems play nice because they see themselves as part of the system.

They want that sweet corporate money as much as the R's.

You can't make meaningful change if you are looking for funding from the same group of donors as your opponent.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
28. Bingo!
Mon Dec 26, 2016, 11:37 PM
Dec 2016

Why have we not been screaming bloody murder about CrossCheck? About other election shenanigans? We saw the playbook 16 years ago with tragic consequences.

Now we have a dangerous fraud about to be sworn in.

Crunchy Frog

(26,579 posts)
40. I've wondered for a long time when our party was going to get this through their thick heads.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 02:20 AM
Dec 2016

I'm glad Maxine Waters seems to have gotten it. I'm not holding my breath for the party as a whole.

Kind of reminds me of this.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,230 posts)
41. That's all good, but Joe Manchin & possibly Heidi Heitkamp will probably cross lines a lot during...
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 03:04 AM
Dec 2016

the Trump administration. I think they are both in a sticky situation, especially considering the midterms. I hope I'm wrong, but we have to come to grips with the fact that the GOP controls it all, and the rules changes in the Senate make it damn near impossible for Dems to stop anything.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
46. My number one criterion going forward is, "Will you FIGHT them?"
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:27 AM
Dec 2016

John Kerry in 2004 would NEVER get my vote now. Ken Blackwell, I'm looking at you motherfucker.

I want a fucking partisan assed fighter. I want Dean. And Ted Kennedy rolled into a frothy fighting machine.

I am sick of writing 'strongly worded letters' or applauding the so called leaders whose idea of fighting back is the same.

I am sick of bringing a knife to a gun fight.

Fuck these motherfuckers.

ProfessorGAC

(64,988 posts)
47. Where Are The "We Don't Want To Sink To Their Level" Folks?
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:30 AM
Dec 2016

Finally seeing the light that playing nice with bullies gets us nowhere, perhaps?

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
48. maxine for DNC chair
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 04:55 PM
Dec 2016

this is what we need to do, because any nice gestures are only considered submission, which is what they want.

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