My first time back at DU after the DU hack. Nothing has been the same since.

[AmericanActivist]

I happened to be on DU when it was hacked. It didn't seem to me to be a Trump troll it seemed more dastardly, bigger more calculated in my opinion. And nothing has been the same since that moment when "God emperor" repeated over and over on my screen.

This is my first time back here after that and my first post. I completely agree with another post here in General Discussion from someone who has avoided news and DU since 11/9. I haven't watched any MSM TV since the "election" was called for Unpotus which was reminiscent of 2004 EVote fiasco.

The national gas lighting by Don the Con and his complicit media has given way to a national nervous breakdown. We're expected to believe that a minority of Americans have created this result in spite of all the facts stacked against him. We're being sold a bill of goods, a lemon, a magic bullet theory only worse the minority president and his cabinet of horrors will get away with every evil plan to destroy the USA because we have no checks and balances, the corrupt GOP has been actively working against America and the majority of American people for at least 15 years or more.

This "election" isn't normal it's UNPRECEDENTED! Trump is a domestic threat. He has already destabilized America. The Electoral College failed to do it's Constitutional duty. The press conference the POTUS gave didn't give any indication that Trump will be stopped from usurping power, actually, the press conference seemed to normalize this sham of an "election" and failed to mention Trump is completely unqualified and unfit, not to mention mentally unstable. That press conference scolded the press but made me feel worse and I've been a supporter of President Obama since he was campaigning for his first term.

This "election" is the 3rd questionable one - and I am being generous here - this time Russia interfered, the FBI interfered, there was GOP Voter suppression and Gerrymandering, plus we still have electronic voting with no paper trail, the state governments shut down recount efforts to verify voting, the complicit media that gave Trump 2 billion $ in free airtime, fake news, propaganda...all of it points to a sham.

And here we are. Don the Con is getting away with it. The GOP has finally destroyed America. Our Republican controlled government is not to be trusted to stop this madness. We are terrorized by our own system. And those of us who understand this reality lack the power to stop this hostile takeover, this political coup.

Nothing is okay! America is not okay! The majority of Americans are not okay! This is not a matter of politics as usual or my candidate lost, this is way worse than GWB and Darth Cheney. Trump is a domestic threat. The GOP are enemies of the state. This is not business as usual.

[bdamomma]

1. TREASON

at its highest these are enemies of the State.

We need to rise up and stop this cabal. We have been played. The Office of the President has been tarnished. That title should not be used for this sick man.

[AmericanActivist]

3. I agree it is Treason. It's all so surreal. Aren't there military police to seize these traitors?

I'm not opposed to the idea of rising up but I fail to see how American citizens can stop it. There are people who have the power to do that but logistically what are we supposed to do?

[BlancheSplanchnik]

13. This is my question too. HOW are we supposed to stop it? n/t

[AmericanActivist]

21. I have no answer to how Americans are supposed to stop tRump. Obviously

we resist, we don't normalize, we vocalize our opposition but the ability to stop tRump lies with government officials in the executive, and legislative branches because they have the power and the obligation to do so. Possibly the judicial branch if a lawsuit were filed with the SCOTUS although this route seems slower and less certain imho.

I'd really like to know how average Americans are supposed to stop tRump? What does that look like exactly?

[adigal]

47. We use our inteligence and our buying oower...BOYCOTT

Boycott everything from red states. Boycott travel,to red states: Florida, the Carolinas, Pennsylvania. Criple their economies so their Reps and their Senators and their state reps get harassed by the businesses in their states to stop being so extreme. Use our $$ and our brains.

[ailsagirl]

35. Treason with impunity

Imagine

[LaydeeBug]

36. TREASON. for sure. This is a coup.

[AmericanActivist]

51. Yes, it is a coup, and you know it and I know it and many others know it too. nm

[RKP5637]

2. This, is the death of America unless resuscitated quickly! n/t

[Judi Lynn]

4. Still in shock, too. Never expected this could happen. Believe me, you're not alone.

This cannot go on too long. The people won't accept it.

Thanks for simply putting down your thoughts. It does a lot of good to see others are thinking this way, also.

[dhol82]

7. Sadly, most people just plod through their lives with no concern over anything that does not reach t

them.
I don't see any great uprising by the masses.

[LaydeeBug]

37. shew, right here at DU, there will be people saying this isn't treason

and you don't know what treason is if you think that way.


right.

fucking.

here.

Can you *imagine* how bad it will get out there?

[AmericanActivist]

8. It is helpful to know others can relate and feel the same way. I am really struggling

to find words. Normally, I'm very articulate but this "shock" has had such an impact that there really aren't words. I have described the experience of 11/9 like being beaten, kicked repeatedly in the gut, badly beaten and then there's a knock at the door and it's the authorities coming to notify me of the unexpected, sudden death of a loved one, in this case, the loved one is my country, America, and all that I knew and loved about America. Then to add insult to injury, nobody will investigate the murder.

[jimlup]

5. I agree

we are in trouble and have to start fighting back. And it can't be normal resistance... it has to be complete opposition to the destructive Republican agenda.

[CrispyQ]

6. Election 2016 was a game changer we may not recover from.

I'm not optimistic at all.

[StevieM]

34. Given the realities of climate change, "not recovering" takes on an especially frightening meaning.

eom

[northoftheborder]

9. I have very similar sentiments as do....

many many on DU and all over. Especially about the media. I cannot watch any news; it makes me literally sick; I hate all of the shallow faces spouting "news". I'm probably older than 99% of DU readers, and this is the worst in my lifetime of election results. I just don't know what it going to happen to this poor country. It may not be fixed in my life span.

Thanks to all of you who speak your mind; it makes me feel better to know how many feel like I do. I have become distrustful of people I don't know - and that is is new to me. I have always leaned toward believing the best of people - but now I wonder if everyone I come across is part of the 90% in this county who voted for this despicable piece of humanity into office of our already GREAT country.

[mountain grammy]

10. On January 21st there should be a million or more

in Washington protesting this travesty. We must be in the streets all the time.. In their faces. The media will try, but cannot ignore millions of protesters.

People can change this and we must. I have no loyalty left for this Republican America, but I'm stuck here for the time being. Protest, protest, protest. An American Spring. Bring this government down!

[Control-Z]

46. Don't believe for a minute

that the media cannot ignore millions of protesters. They can and most probably will.

Flashback: Over One Million March for Women’s Lives

On April 25, 2004, a year of planning paid off when 1.15 million women, men, girls and boys marched to protect and advance abortion rights, birth control and access to a full range of reproductive health care options.

Before President Obama's first inauguration it was the biggest protest/march/gathering in American history. And most people never even knew it happened.

http://now.org/blog/over-one-million-march-for-womens-lives/

[mountain grammy]

49. You're right, it was under covered by American corporate media.

They're a joke and that will be a problem, for sure. But, they can't ignore it forever.

Maybe if we hang teabags from out hats. They seemed to get plenty of press coverage when more than 3 of them showed up for anything.

[Tumbulu]

11. well said.....

I want the Women's March to be on January 20 th and we just walk up and take him away. He needs to be placed on an island, or just back in his tower. And I agree with you wholeheartedly that Obama's press conference was just unbelievable. And now, hearing him say that he could have won a third term? I feel gobsmacked about it all.

And why was there not a Democratic Party based recount- a real recount of those states that Jill Stein tried to get recounts in?

I knew this summer by the way that the weeds were growing on my farm that T would win. And I see this as the end of the USA. I kept hoping that I would be wrong about the election....but am not. And now I keep hoping that I will be wrong about the dissolution of the USA.

[Ligyron]

40. Because the current Democratic Party is about useless as is their "leadership".

Warren, Sanders (who isn't even a Dem) and a few others are fighting but that's about it,

So far...

[Tumbulu]

53. You are so sadly correct!

[elmac]

12. And we can't forget mobsters like giuliani

who violated the RICO act on national TV

[AmericanActivist]

16. Yes I think RICO applies here and not just to Giuliani nm

[left-of-center2012]

14. Trump will have control of the W.H., Congress, and the Supreme Court

Thanks to Putin.
It was a coup, and it will only get worse.

[MarvinGardens]

15. We have come back from worse.

This is quite bad, but (so far) there have been worse times in our history that we have recovered from. The Civil War and the Great Depression were very bad and still we recovered. This could be one of those times, a time of instability and fear, but we can survive. I say this not to minimize the evil we face, but to instill hope. We must resist, and if we do, we will survive.

[world wide wally]

18. Not so sure about that. We've never been taken over by a foreign power before

This is a big one, sadly

[MarvinGardens]

20. I am not so sure either.

At least, compared with how I have felt about past transitions of power, I am less sure. But more likely than not, we will survive if we can maintain hope *and* resistance. We must maintain hope and remember where we (as a people) came from and what we have survived.

[CrispyQ]

38. "...there have been worse times in our history..."

This moment is a dire as any in our history. The GOP controls the federal government & 33 of the state legislatures. They fought dirty & the dems played nice & now the GOP has their boot on our neck & guess what? They're not taking it off. The dems didn't just drop the ball, they lost the game.

Rewrite the Constitution? Here's how a convention could do it

By Tom LoBianco, CNN
Updated 1:47 PM ET, Fri November 25, 2016

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/constitutional-convention-explainer/

snip...

Washington (CNN)The increasing dominance of Republicans inside statehouses across the nation has spurred talk that a constitutional convention -- the very meeting that crafted the US Constitution -- could be more than just a Hail Mary thrown to conservatives.

Conservative groups and Republican lawmakers have been planning for the possibility for years, although it picked up steam three years ago after a group of state lawmakers met at George Washington's Mount Vernon estate, just outside Washington.
Most recently, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush voiced support for the idea in an op-ed published Thursday in how he would advise his party to proceed following Donald Trump's victory.

"Republicans should support convening a constitutional convention to pass term limits, a balanced-budget amendment and restraints on the Commerce Clause, which has given the federal government far more regulatory power than the Founders intended," Bush wrote.

[Dan]

17. I believe

That if Trump sides too much with Putin against our national interest - there will be a military coup - and sadly, I would support such a thing.

[MarvinGardens]

23. The odds of such a thing would seem to be elevated.

At least from this middle-aged lifelong civilian's point of view. I was thinking something along the lines of: Trump orders the military to do something that crosses the line, and at that point they refuse to take further orders from him. It would be good to hear from those with a military background about this.

[Dan]

24. If senior officers

The top brass start resigning.... start worrying...

[lunatica]

42. This may be the very reason Trump is choosing Generals for important positions

In historical coups the winners were always backed by the military. Heaven knows this entire 'election' has been one unprecedented shock after another so we're really in an unbalanced position, but if history serves as anything then coups need to have military backing.

[Chipper Chat]

19. The only thing that will work (short of West Coast secession) is economic stress.

Personally I don't feel like buying anything except food and medicine. If a frugal citizenry refuses to "buy stuff" Trump's great again America will become tarnished. And there will be no new jobs. Let's see how long the Trumpetites will stick with him after an economic disaster.

[Amishman]

31. Cash out investments too, deny Wall Street your savings

Someone should coordinate a 1/20 cashout. No stocks, bonds, or other traded investments.

Market is probably going to tank soon anyway, so cashing out and letting your money sit in an account with a local credit union might actually put you ahead.

[Blecht]

22. Yes, I feel the same way

Things are not OK!

[SHRED]

25. They've been working against us since Nixon.

[AmericanActivist]

26. Chomsky on Repubs

http://www.ecowatch.com/noam-chomsky-trump-2093271018.html

[harun]

27. Exactly, the coup is not new (n/t)

[annielion]

28. Thank you for your post!

I totally agree that this election was stolen in so many ways. Our voting system is an absolute joke. And for fake news - is any group any better than our corporate media for providing fake news?

I haven't given up hope that (soon) we all can stop this incredibly unqualified unpresident.

[byronius]

29. Right there with you.

[pressbox69]

30. I think Americans were more hopeful

after the JFK murder in 1963. We still don't know the real story about that and probably never will know the real story about how trump grabbed his way into the White House.

[Ellipsis]

32. Frank Herbert fans I wonder.

Not my favorite of the series



.


I was here... Missed the video live.... Probably a good thing.

At first I thought it was cool that someone trying to hack DU, flattering ...when it came up for its last gasp, then nothing, not so much.

... Don't know what to think about the future.

[onecent]

33. Who is the Manager of WHO CAN START THIS TREASON.

Who is the person who is suppose to start this treason. THIS IS RIDICULOUS THAT
WE have to sit and watch all the thiings that are going on Is is President Bush? Is it Congress?
Someone has the responsibility....WHO IS IT?????????????????

[lunatica]

39. I'm delighted you came back

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We all need each other. No one here at DU has been taken in. Nothing about the 'election' of 2016 is or ever will be normal.

And if we lose our country, then let it be known that we fought to keep it. That DU was one of the factions that fought our hearts out to keep our country.

[AmericanActivist]

52. Thank you. You're right, what you say is true. Glad you're here. nm

[Ligyron]

41. The sad part here is not that America will never recover,

but that many here will not live to see it due to our age.

My mind is like: may as well go out fighting - and I mean at whatever level the resistance shows up for.

I'm down.

[niyad]

43. the orange predator is not just a domestic threat--but a threat to the existene of the entire world.

[AngryAmish]

44. I am still an asshole. That is a constant.

[Madam45for2923]

45. I agree with the OP & with everyone here who called it TREASON.

[WestCoastDem42]

48. Also just back ....

I also was knocked off DU by the hack and have just returned. I have never been an 'activist' and keep my politics mostly to myself. This situation, however, is different and I feel forced to stop being a
'lurker' and start to get engaged in ways that I am comfortable with.

One way that appeals to me is wearing the 'safety pin' and being prepared to step up when harassment is going on. (Note: I saw an excellent primer on the 4 'D's of harassment intervention and recommend seeing it.) Also, turning the sleaze mag's at the check out counters back-to-front.

Another form of activism that I am intending to do is to visit my House Representatives office on a periodic basis to register my personal support or opposition on specific issues personally.

This election IS unprecedented so I am going to have to get activated in what, for me, is also unprecedented way.

[coco22]

50. McConnell has been there since Reagan..

working against the American people along with Trent Lott,another evil bastard who no doubt is working behind the scenes like Tom Delay.