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kpete

(71,965 posts)
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:21 AM Dec 2016

Maxine Waters: "Oh no, I wont go! I'm not going to sit down with him-I'm not going to pretend"

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“I tell you, that has been a problem in my party,” Waters replied. “That when we’re in power, we’re nice. We bend over backwards to work with people. Trump has stepped over everybody. He has no respect for his own colleagues, let alone those on the opposite side of the aisle.”

“He’s called names, he’s lied. Everything to show that he doesn’t have good values and he can’t be trusted,”
she continued. “Why should we work with someone that we can’t trust? He’ll tell you one thing today and another tomorrow. As a matter of fact, those people who voted for him ought to be really concerned about the fact that he has already backpedaled on so many of the promises he made. And so, I have no intention of pretending everything is alright, that we’re going to work together.”

“As a ranking member of the Financial Services Committee, where he said he’s going to bring down Dodd-Frank and he’s going to get rid of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, I’m going to fight him every inch of the way.”

“Are you saying then that you would not sit down with President-elect Trump if he invited you to the White House to meet on common ground?” Soboroff pressed.

“Oh no, I won’t go! I’m not going to sit down with him, I’m not going to go. I’m not going to pretend. I’m not pretending,” Waters shot back before adding, “Why should I trust him?”




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Maxine Waters: "Oh no, I wont go! I'm not going to sit down with him-I'm not going to pretend" (Original Post) kpete Dec 2016 OP
Good for her! I wouldn't go either... let's see if her fellow Dems follow suit. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #1
It will be interesting to watch the # of backbones that actually appear dae Dec 2016 #29
Gotta' say........ MyOwnPeace Dec 2016 #2
Exactly. If you stay away, you're just allowing them to do whatever with no resistance 7962 Dec 2016 #33
I respectfully disagree angrychair Dec 2016 #36
The Dems can act like he's not there all they want, it will only help him. We dont want that!! 7962 Dec 2016 #38
I was not implying to be silent or stand on the sidelines angrychair Dec 2016 #39
I may be wrong, but I seriously doubt your wish will be the reality. 7962 Dec 2016 #46
A viable infrastructure bill is fantasy angrychair Dec 2016 #57
"MyOwnPeace" Snoopy 7 Dec 2016 #47
Good! A rare spine. nancy1942 Dec 2016 #3
Well, at least one of them has Bettie Dec 2016 #4
'why aren't Democrats fighting back?' bigtree Dec 2016 #5
She is one of the very few, as far as I can tell. pangaia Dec 2016 #28
Credit where credit is due, but most are very quiet. nt Lucky Luciano Dec 2016 #32
"Democrats" Snoopy 7 Dec 2016 #48
She wasn't going to be invited anyway... TheDebbieDee Dec 2016 #6
They may as well not even bother to show up til 2018... Snoopy 7 Dec 2016 #49
Trump Belongs In Prison OldYallow Dec 2016 #7
Or a psychiatric ward ailsagirl Dec 2016 #10
he needs a full mental health assessment bdamomma Dec 2016 #12
Not even close ailsagirl Dec 2016 #17
Maxine Waters: Role model for Democrats. (nt) Paladin Dec 2016 #8
+ 1000 nt iluvtennis Dec 2016 #9
+10000000 progressoid Dec 2016 #14
+ 1000.. Give me a post-menopausal Dem "bitch" to do the work of real change ehrnst Dec 2016 #20
as one of my friends used to say, "AKC registered, darling" niyad Dec 2016 #51
this is one of the greatest posts on the net I've ever read. n/t JHan Dec 2016 #58
Kicked&Recommended! coco22 Dec 2016 #26
you know bdamomma Dec 2016 #11
Pres Obama had House Repubs over several times about ObamaCare... Wounded Bear Dec 2016 #13
A Dem with guts who resists the pig. pressbox69 Dec 2016 #15
Good for her! smirkymonkey Dec 2016 #16
Maxine Waters rocks! DesertRat Dec 2016 #18
Wow. One of the "old establishment" Dems knows something and can throw it down ehrnst Dec 2016 #19
She is being a proper Democrat. THis was the norm before the unilateral embrace of "post partisan" Bill USA Dec 2016 #24
She is being a proper post-menopausal bitch, and we need more of them. ehrnst Dec 2016 #31
I never have had any fucks to give, and being wayyyyyy past menopausal (crone, actually) niyad Dec 2016 #52
+10000 and it's why we need more in Dem leadership (nt) ehrnst Dec 2016 #55
Great statement. He did not win the election and he's a consummate fraud & a sleezeball. She just Bill USA Dec 2016 #21
I love her! Trump has shown zero,good faith. Being in Gore adigal Dec 2016 #22
LOVE Maxine!!! I wouldn't sit down with that disgusting pretend human being for anything. niyad Dec 2016 #23
You probably weren't trying to be funny, but I did get a good laugh Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #42
dead serious about that, but glad it made you laugh. we need all the laughs we can get, niyad Dec 2016 #50
We need about 434 more of her volstork Dec 2016 #25
Why is it the Women in Congress are the ones with the balls? /NT sdfernando Dec 2016 #27
Though a man angrychair Dec 2016 #37
LOL Touche' sdfernando Dec 2016 #40
genitalia are not the prerequisite for courage and doing the right thing. niyad Dec 2016 #53
I agree wholeheartedly....She is a treasure! sdfernando Dec 2016 #59
Dear gawd, Control-Z Dec 2016 #30
I love my congresswoman nini Dec 2016 #34
Thank you Rep. Waters angrychair Dec 2016 #35
Love Her colsohlibgal Dec 2016 #41
Good, Maxine has always been a fighter Jim Beard Dec 2016 #43
I hope all the Dems do the same thing as Maxine! If invited to the WH, decline! napi21 Dec 2016 #44
Maxine Waters ... a Democrat with a spine Raine Dec 2016 #45
I think she should go Bayard Dec 2016 #54
no, she should not. anything like that is simply giving him cover as a normal human being, niyad Dec 2016 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author Sunlei Dec 2016 #60

MyOwnPeace

(16,920 posts)
2. Gotta' say........
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:37 AM
Dec 2016

I think she SHOULD go - and lay it on the line as to what she expects - and she should let the public know what is being proposed and what (as we could/should expect) is SO wrong with any proposal.

You have to be in attendance to have a fight!

She DESERVES our respect AND support!!!

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
33. Exactly. If you stay away, you're just allowing them to do whatever with no resistance
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 10:25 PM
Dec 2016

Childish move

angrychair

(8,684 posts)
36. I respectfully disagree
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:27 PM
Dec 2016

He is a self-admitted rapist and pedophile. He is a bigoted and xenophobic fascist. Why would you give a shit what he is saying? We are in a strange place in American politics and i will not vote for and will actively campaign against ANYONE that works with trump on ANYTHING.

Trump is a narcissistic, racist, bigoted and xenophobic fascist. We are either united in our fight against his agenda or we will all become a victim of it.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
38. The Dems can act like he's not there all they want, it will only help him. We dont want that!!
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:47 PM
Dec 2016

Without a majority, if they just stand on the sidelines theres no telling what will get passed. If they become involved, they could have some say in the matter. Remember he said all along hes a "dealmaker". I guarantee he is going to make deals with SOMEONE on the Democratic side to get something passed that he wants. But when that happens, HIS core supporters will be pissed because he's dealing with democrats. I give it 6 months, if THAT long, before his own backers start whining when that happens.

But to just take your ball and go home will accomplish zero

angrychair

(8,684 posts)
39. I was not implying to be silent or stand on the sidelines
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:02 AM
Dec 2016

I was saying that Democrats should not be negotiating or making deals with him or treating him with even an ounce of respect or accommodation. We should be fighting everything this fascist supports without question and with all the effort we can muster...every time. We should only refer to trump as a rapist and a misogynist and not by name.
By cooperating and engaging him in "deal making" you acknowledge him as a an equal and give him power.

This is my tag line and it will stay my tag line for the next four years or trump and pence are arrested and pushed out of office:

Trump is a narcissistic, racist, bigoted and xenophobic fascist. We are either united in our fight against his agenda or we will all become a victim of it.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
46. I may be wrong, but I seriously doubt your wish will be the reality.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 08:31 AM
Dec 2016

Especially if he comes up with an infrastructure bill early on. That is something much needed which most Dems support & usually most R's oppose.
And I dont think theres much chance of Democratic leaders standing on the floor of the Senate or House referring to the sitting president, whethere we like him or not, using your preferred terminology. I dont see that helping get MORE Dems elected in '18. He's there & they're gonna have to deal with him in some form like it or not.
But come next month, we'll see what really happens. Maybe trump wont even be involved much in anything and it will be Pence everyone has to deal with. I think theres a good chance of that

angrychair

(8,684 posts)
57. A viable infrastructure bill is fantasy
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 04:04 PM
Dec 2016

That is not their or his priority. More significantly, the infrastructure bill, as described, is dead on arrival. It is underfunded and deeply debt intensive.

Regardless of how some choose to refer to him it does not change the fact that he is a rapist and a fascist.

In regards to 2018: I am unequivocally confident that standing against trump will have an impressive impact on the 2018 election for Democrats. We want a strong, assertive and united front against the political monster the republicans have become.

I state this again:
Trump is a narcissistic, racist, bigoted and xenophobic fascist. We are either united in our fight against his agenda or we will all become a victim of it.

Snoopy 7

(526 posts)
47. "MyOwnPeace"
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:22 AM
Dec 2016

Sorry but what you are asking is what would have happened prior to the Regan Administration, that's when the Republican Party started that they wouldn't bring up a bill unless it had 100% support of ALL republicans. I still remember the Republican members holding up the vote to pressure their peers to 'get in line' or they will be shunned. This problem has continued through the Obama Administration, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/25/robert-draper-anti-obama-campaign_n_1452899.html. So if you think this President will be any more willing to "lay it on the line" then your not keeping up with todays new politics (http://occupydemocrats.com/2016/12/27/republicans-just-banned-1st-amendment-floor-congress). And with no cameras on the floor, it's bad enough that the paid for corporate media won't cover opposition news, the Republican Party will feel more embolden to do as they please. Don't forget Trump will elect the next supreme court judge, guess the Republican Party can do as they please since the will have the court in their favor. Look at how many times the Robert's Court voted for the republican party side against the American People.

Snoopy 7

(526 posts)
48. "Democrats"
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:35 AM
Dec 2016

I have been posting for some time now that we don't have a two party system, we have a system where your either vote for a republican (light) or a crazy republican. Don't forget after Regan got elected the second time many of the republicans felt disillusioned. So, they came over to the Democratic Party. This has continued, as has our candidates (Blue Dog Democrats), and changed our party dramatically. When the shifting of party begun I kept posting, and continue to post, we don't want you stay where you are and fix your party. But, the Democratic Party officials and the DNC love these people not only for their vote, which is minor, but for the money they bring in. Look at the amount of money in politics right now it cost billions to get the JOB of President which pays a few hundred thousands. This problem continues on down the line, look at your local elections and the money being spent by the parties to get down ballot people elected. Local officials get millions to get a job which pays a few tens of thousands, but the party expects voting on their bribe/election funding.
Back to the 'why aren't Democrats fighting back?' it's because we don't have a Democratic Party anymore. If you are a member of the Democratic Party in Washington, D.C. you are actually a Progressive/Independent. That is where the "real Democratic Party" has go to...

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
6. She wasn't going to be invited anyway...
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:04 AM
Dec 2016

I keep saying that there aren't enough Dems in DC to stop or slow down ANYTHING! They may as well not even bother to show up til 2018...

Snoopy 7

(526 posts)
49. They may as well not even bother to show up til 2018...
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:39 AM
Dec 2016

Really do you really think that time will help? People keep forgetting that ever since the Republicans came to power they have rigged the system. Gerrymandering is a SERIOUS PROBLEM how else can you get more votes in the Senate, House and Presidency and still loose elections, not only that the party which looses, Republican Party, gains seats. http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2013/nov/26/lloyd-doggett/democrats-outpolled-republicans-who-landed-33-seat/
Our Democratic system has been under fire for some time now and it seems to only be getting worse...

 

OldYallow

(90 posts)
7. Trump Belongs In Prison
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:57 AM
Dec 2016

Bribery
Self Dealing
Charity Fraud
Tax Fraud

And probably a few more I don't know about.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
20. + 1000.. Give me a post-menopausal Dem "bitch" to do the work of real change
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:16 PM
Dec 2016

any day of the goddamned week.

They have no fucks left to give, and will not suffer fools gladly.

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
11. you know
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:54 PM
Dec 2016

I don't even think tRump is going to sit down with anyone except his family members Ivanka for sure he will have his surrogates pinch in for him, I think Pence will be involved with a lot of the decisions. tRump is too thin skinned and doesn't have a clue how government works. God, he needs to go.

Good for you Maxine Waters. All tRump does is tweet. Stupid man/child.

Wounded Bear

(58,605 posts)
13. Pres Obama had House Repubs over several times about ObamaCare...
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 12:59 PM
Dec 2016

IIRC, they backstabbed him every time, letting him make some positive comment about "a good meeting" and then stiffing him in the press and with their votes.

Trump is not to be trusted. Trump is less trustworthy than the average Repub, and that is a pretty low bar.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
24. She is being a proper Democrat. THis was the norm before the unilateral embrace of "post partisan"
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:38 PM
Dec 2016

piffle.

As of January this unilateral "post partisan" politics is DEAD. We can be Democrats again.




 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
31. She is being a proper post-menopausal bitch, and we need more of them.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:09 PM
Dec 2016

I think that people tend to forget that about women of an age, when they talk about "new blood" in the party getting it "back" to the concerns of white working class men...

I think that the most dangerous enemy is one with zero fucks to give, and that's why Hillary got under Comrade Casino's skin so easily.

niyad

(113,094 posts)
52. I never have had any fucks to give, and being wayyyyyy past menopausal (crone, actually)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:20 PM
Dec 2016

I REALLLLLLLLLY do not have any fucks to give.

"you say BITCH like it's a bad thing" --throws them every time.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
21. Great statement. He did not win the election and he's a consummate fraud & a sleezeball. She just
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:32 PM
Dec 2016

will not participate in his fraudulent presence in the People's House.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
22. I love her! Trump has shown zero,good faith. Being in Gore
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:34 PM
Dec 2016

And appoint Pruitt the next day. Screwing with Romney .

niyad

(113,094 posts)
23. LOVE Maxine!!! I wouldn't sit down with that disgusting pretend human being for anything.
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 07:34 PM
Dec 2016

will not help to pretend that anything about him is normal.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
42. You probably weren't trying to be funny, but I did get a good laugh
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 01:48 AM
Dec 2016

out of you calling tRump a "pretend human." True of a lot of RWers, really.

niyad

(113,094 posts)
50. dead serious about that, but glad it made you laugh. we need all the laughs we can get,
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:15 PM
Dec 2016

so happy if I could help.

I have come to the conclusion that the orange foolius was actually dropped off here from another planet, the way prisoners were sent to australia. I just wish I knew what we had done to offend the others!!

niyad

(113,094 posts)
53. genitalia are not the prerequisite for courage and doing the right thing.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:24 PM
Dec 2016

Maxine has solid brass ovaries, if we go by genitalia.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
30. Dear gawd,
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 09:07 PM
Dec 2016

reading this made me cry. Some sad and angry tears. But some very grateful ones.
Maxine Waters gets it like I want every last one of our democrats to get it.

angrychair

(8,684 posts)
35. Thank you Rep. Waters
Tue Dec 27, 2016, 11:19 PM
Dec 2016
FINALLY we see some backbone and people stop talking nice to the rapist. FUCK HIM!!! He is a sexual predator and a rapist. He admitted to walking in on partially dressed or nude underage girls. He is a sexist, bigoted fascist.

Why would we give a shit what he has to say???

I think the Democratic Party should boycott everything he says and does...starting with the inauguration. I will not watch or show up nor should anyone else.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
41. Love Her
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:37 AM
Dec 2016

She was one of the very few who stood up against the 2000 election and the illegal first strike Iraq War.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
44. I hope all the Dems do the same thing as Maxine! If invited to the WH, decline!
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 03:28 AM
Dec 2016

There's NO reason any of them should pretend to be willing to work with the Con! Make it clear, up front, where you stand, and unless he pushes for something that HELPS the middle class he gets nothing but obstruction!

Bayard

(22,011 posts)
54. I think she should go
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:39 PM
Dec 2016

But make it a fact-finding mission, try to see what he's up to, or get a heads up on his agenda. Then tell him you absolutely will not work with him to bring down the country. But, she hasn't been invited yet, and isn't likely to be.

niyad

(113,094 posts)
56. no, she should not. anything like that is simply giving him cover as a normal human being,
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 01:36 PM
Dec 2016

giving credence to his fouling of the people's house.

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