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Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:16 AM Dec 2016

A Day Which Will Live in Infamy

Yes, it was a surprised attack. Yes, many were killed. And yet..

Were it not for the attack, would the U.S. have entered the war? In time to make a difference?

I was thinking of this as I was watching the ceremony in Pearl Harbor with Japan's Abe.

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A Day Which Will Live in Infamy (Original Post) question everything Dec 2016 OP
Its a question historians have re-hashed many times citood Dec 2016 #1
"Execute unrestricted submarine warfare against Japan." longship Dec 2016 #3
And Hitler was dumb enough to declare war on the US making our entry into the European war de facto. FreeStateDemocrat Dec 2016 #2

citood

(550 posts)
1. Its a question historians have re-hashed many times
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:47 AM
Dec 2016

The Japanese seemed to have found the best possible way to rally popular support for entering the war, much to their chagrin.

longship

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3. "Execute unrestricted submarine warfare against Japan."
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 12:24 PM
Dec 2016

One of the first commands to the silent service after the Pearl Harbor attack. By the end of the war, over five million tons of shipping were in Davy Jones locker, more than all the other services put together. The submarines also had the highest casualty rate of any service. When a sub was sunk it usually took down all aboard with her. One of my cousins died in the SS Kete.

Japan's ability to prosecute the war was hugely impeded by what the subs accomplished, especially during the second half of the war.

Just a little history.

Happy that President Obama and Abe did this. That's my president!!!!

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