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Cattledog

(5,910 posts)
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 07:30 PM Dec 2016

How the Media Manufactured Hatred of Hillary Clinton

"The fact is that Hillary Clinton wasn’t unpopular when she announced her decision to run in April 2015. If you look at the Gallup survey in March of last year, 50 percent of Americans had a favorable impression of Clinton, only 39 percent an unfavorable one. So there was clearly no deep reservoir of Clinton hatred among the general public at the time. On the contrary: Americans liked her; they liked her quite a bit.

Already by June, however, her favorability had not only taken a hit. It had plummeted. By July, according to Gallup, her favorability hit an all-time low with only 38 percent positively and 57 percent viewing her negatively — putting her 19 points underwater."




http://billmoyers.com/story/last-night-3/

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How the Media Manufactured Hatred of Hillary Clinton (Original Post) Cattledog Dec 2016 OP
How, indeed. yallerdawg Dec 2016 #1
It was the Dean Scream all over again gratuitous Dec 2016 #4
no.. sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #13
i thought the media was bad with Gore. but they were the worst with clinton JI7 Dec 2016 #2
GOP Spent 50 million on her to SPECIFICALLY lower her poll numbers uponit7771 Dec 2016 #3
It was a billion dollar campaign.. Kuhl Dec 2016 #55
This was with the Bhengazi hearings uponit7771 Dec 2016 #64
By any measure, no matter how much the GOP spent, it was an investment that'll pay off handsomely ffr Dec 2016 #76
Excellent read Va Lefty Dec 2016 #5
I had heard they were going to do this to her early this year. kimbutgar Dec 2016 #9
Trump's negatives were always high from Day One... kentuck Dec 2016 #6
rightwing narratives always rule the day in media-land Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #10
That is something all Democrats need to understand. kentuck Dec 2016 #44
k & r - Moyers is always impressive. LAS14 Dec 2016 #7
Rigged. Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #8
It wasn't rigged. We won. They stole it. Initech Dec 2016 #46
all that, but the media rigged it for Trump with the way they treated him vs HRC Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #60
And they couldn't name one actual instance of hillary's wall street corruption mathematic Dec 2016 #11
Well, Hillary asked Bernie to answer that question at one of the primary debates. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #21
I will never forgive him for that n/t kcr Dec 2016 #49
Me neither. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #50
Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #51
It was a contest he was trying to win... Kuhl Dec 2016 #56
... the most fucked up way possible? really?! That's a positive thing? uponit7771 Dec 2016 #65
I feel he was restrained... Kuhl Dec 2016 #73
He ran ads against her with cartoon money bags implying she was bought. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #74
How else could he possibly have meant it? Kuhl Dec 2016 #84
He was NOT suggesting the emails were a bullshit issue (which it was). Quite the opposite. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #85
That only makes sense if you think Sanders is a moron... Kuhl Dec 2016 #86
Then why do you think he later legitimized the email faux scandal to Jake Tapper? nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #87
It was a political contest. They are going to criticize each other. OnionPatch Dec 2016 #79
Bertha Lewis was on point there. JHan Dec 2016 #71
Most people assume that when corporations give or pay you millions of dollars... killbotfactory Dec 2016 #37
Any sensible politician or political consultant knew big banks wall st. corruption loyalsister Dec 2016 #57
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #12
What's your opinion? GP6971 Dec 2016 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #17
Properly Vet? GP6971 Dec 2016 #20
You're right. It was the risotto. DawgHouse Dec 2016 #16
What in the emails made her "look bad"?! SunSeeker Dec 2016 #23
Wow, your second post and ... aggiesal Dec 2016 #30
Yup. Already gone. Some trolls don't even make an effort. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #47
Hillary's favorability was already in freefall at that point. Motown_Johnny Dec 2016 #14
Well the base supported her. JHan Dec 2016 #19
My point being that the OP is false. Motown_Johnny Dec 2016 #24
I switched support from Sanders and O'Malley to Clinton.. JHan Dec 2016 #26
The most trying odds of any candidate in a presidential election in an incumbent year?!?!?!?!? Motown_Johnny Dec 2016 #33
This is really why we can't have nice things: JHan Dec 2016 #38
She was at 50 % favorability in early 2015. That is not freefall. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #25
down 9% from the previous year and a total of 14% from 2 years earlier Motown_Johnny Dec 2016 #27
Down only 9% during a year long fever pitch Benghazi investgation is not freefall. nt SunSeeker Dec 2016 #29
Benghazi was bullshit and anyone not a bat shit crazy (R) knew it. Motown_Johnny Dec 2016 #35
The FBI was not investigating her. You swallowed the biased reporting. SunSeeker Dec 2016 #42
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #67
This is false on its face, we already know their aren't a lot of politicos and should know DU isn't uponit7771 Dec 2016 #66
Your bias certainly forces you to choose language creatively, regardless of its accuracy. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #69
Zactly, I saw a poll where she was at around 58% shortly before announcing her run. JHan Dec 2016 #28
Link? n/t Motown_Johnny Dec 2016 #36
This is from Pew Research : JHan Dec 2016 #39
It wasn't "in freefall", it was just down from her numbers as SoS, closer to 2008. DanTex Dec 2016 #72
I read the first couple of paragraphs. I can't read more. I'm already dejected enough. NBachers Dec 2016 #18
I wish we'd seen more articles like this last January and February. LAS14 Dec 2016 #22
I supported Clinton 100%, but the media didn't have to do a thing Hoyt Dec 2016 #31
While you are correct about the right wing hatred of Clinton, the media was NOT an innocent still_one Dec 2016 #53
If the corporate media had devoted as much time to Trump's actual history in business..... guillaumeb Dec 2016 #32
Raw unbridled sexism. milestogo Dec 2016 #34
MSM played a large role in robbing America of an exceptional president. oasis Dec 2016 #40
they sure fucking did... plus a lot of lefty media outlets were only too happy to join in on Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #61
The m$media****** got dumphuck selected. Cha Dec 2016 #41
I like that this article talked about Hillary's consistent efforts to discuss economic issues. StevieM Dec 2016 #43
Yes! thank you, Stevie! Cha Dec 2016 #48
It worked on DU, that's for sure. Lil Missy Dec 2016 #45
Still working, seeing some of the replies here. baldguy Dec 2016 #58
K&R betsuni Dec 2016 #52
She'd been out of the lime light for a while preparing... Kuhl Dec 2016 #54
Please, it was sexist witch-burning MountCleaners Dec 2016 #59
+1 uponit7771 Dec 2016 #68
The Lefty Media Tore Her Apart otohara Dec 2016 #62
It wasn't just the media. MineralMan Dec 2016 #63
She made some questionable decisions from a political standpoint between 08-16 inwiththenew Dec 2016 #70
Emails..emails You don't seem to believe the issue was way overblown. oasis Dec 2016 #75
More analysis that goes in the "no shit" file ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #77
"deeply flawed" "most disliked candidate", phrases every TV story employed, Rachael Maddow & Chis mulsh Dec 2016 #78
the hatred is real.....it's been there for decades. bowens43 Dec 2016 #80
benghazi....james comey....russian hack....that's how they won. spanone Dec 2016 #81
In campaigning against Obama in 08 there was already azmom Dec 2016 #82
Hillary is well loved fescuerescue Dec 2016 #83

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
1. How, indeed.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 07:44 PM
Dec 2016
But policy wasn’t what the media were focused on that July. They were focused on emails. There was a court-mandated dump of Clinton’s emails late that month, and the media leapt on it with alacrity. This certainly wasn’t the first time the public had heard about Clinton using a private email server while Secretary of State. That news had come out in March 2015 and hadn’t affected her favorability at all. But the fixation on emails, which had long been an addiction among Republicans and the right-wing media, suddenly became an addiction in the mainstream media as well. According to a Lexis-Nexis search, The New York Times, to cite one example, had seven stories that month with “Clinton” and “emails” in the headline. More important, most news sources reported erroneously that Clinton was the subject of a criminal investigation by the FBI. In reporting a sudden drop in Clinton’s popularity in its own NBC/Wall Street Journal poll that month, NBC professed not to understand why, though it had only to look at its own reporting. You could say that Clinton was sabotaged.

And that wasn’t all. As reported in a study by Harvard University’s Shorenstein Center on media coverage in the pre-primary period, Clinton received especially negative coverage — overwhelmingly negative. At the same time, both Sanders and Trump received extremely positive coverage. As the report put it: “Whereas media coverage helped build up Trump, it helped tear down Clinton. Trump’s positive coverage was the equivalent of millions of dollars in ad-buys in his favor, whereas Clinton’s negative coverage can be equated to millions of dollars in attack ads, with her on the receiving end.” And Shorenstein found there was a ratio of 45 negative stories to one positive story on the emails, much of them generated by Republicans and Fox News and picked up by mainstream media, who readily quoted the Republicans. Eighty-four percent of Clinton’s coverage in this period was negative in tone. Moreover, her coverage in the primary period, as studied by Shorenstein, continued to be disproportionately focused on emails and continued to be heavily negative — 10 negative stories for every positive one.

The transition from the story of the emails to the story of unpopularity itself followed as night does day and rapidly gained a momentum all its own, to the point where it is now quite possibly the central narrative of the election...

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. It was the Dean Scream all over again
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 07:49 PM
Dec 2016

The relentless negative coverage was unbelievable. By the time June rolls around next year, if you ask 100 Trump voters just what it was about Secretary Clinton they hated so much, I'm guessing their answer will be something, something Obamacare or Benghazi. If you follow up and ask specifically what about Obamacare or Benghazi was so heinous, you'll get a very blank stare.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
13. no..
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:07 PM
Dec 2016

They said that she killed all those men in Benghazi and that she was a baby killer wanting to allow women to start getting abortions the day before their babies are born. One woman literally did not believe that late term abortions were already legal. I could not reason with them. It was like talking to children about the income tax code.

JI7

(89,239 posts)
2. i thought the media was bad with Gore. but they were the worst with clinton
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 07:47 PM
Dec 2016

Anything negative about trump just had to include something negative about her.

Even the debates were about his trump did well the first 15 seconds or some stupid shit like that.

ffr

(22,665 posts)
76. By any measure, no matter how much the GOP spent, it was an investment that'll pay off handsomely
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:56 PM
Dec 2016

for

them.

Raiders of the U.S. Treasury and America's natural resources.

We are so fcuked!!!

kimbutgar

(21,040 posts)
9. I had heard they were going to do this to her early this year.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 08:52 PM
Dec 2016

I can't believe how they made a great stateswoman so toxic. Expect this going forward for any Democratic candidates. President Obama might be the last democratic president in my lifetime at my age 60. Sadly.

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
6. Trump's negatives were always high from Day One...
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 08:06 PM
Dec 2016

So they had to get Hillary's numbers down to where Trump's were so it would be a "fair" battle. Yes, every day, the media would talk about how much people disliked Hillary and how 56% could not trust her. They accomplished their goal.

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
44. That is something all Democrats need to understand.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:02 PM
Dec 2016

Republicans always believe it is the "liberal media", but it's not.

Always skeptical of Democratic ideas but accepts "right-wing narratives" as the norm.

Initech

(100,029 posts)
46. It wasn't rigged. We won. They stole it.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:51 PM
Dec 2016

They stole it through an act of treason that involved Russian hacking, and FBI director and Senate Majority Leader who hated Hillary Clinton and aided and abetted this act of treason. They must be punished and prosecuted for this.

mathematic

(1,431 posts)
11. And they couldn't name one actual instance of hillary's wall street corruption
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 08:59 PM
Dec 2016

All they had to do was suggest she was in the pocket of various business lobbies.

Too bad nobody had the spine to directly ask these liars point blank to come up with an example.

SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
21. Well, Hillary asked Bernie to answer that question at one of the primary debates.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:55 PM
Dec 2016

Of course, he could not answer it, he just repeated getting money from Wall Street will affect her.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boston.com/news/politics/2016/04/14/debate-bernie-sanders-no-example-donations-affecting-hillary-clintons/amp

So it wasn’t just the media that tanked her likeability, Sanders had a big hand in it:

Response to kcr (Reply #49)

 

Kuhl

(30 posts)
73. I feel he was restrained...
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:58 PM
Dec 2016

Like when he gave her a pass on emails at the debate.

He certainly didn't go as hard as he could have.

SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
74. He ran ads against her with cartoon money bags implying she was bought.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:43 PM
Dec 2016

He did go as hard as he could have. And I am one of those who believe that line about "I'm so sick of hearing about the damn emails" line didn't come off quite like Bernie intended it to. I don’t think he meant to take that argument off the table against Hillary, but the way Hillary and the audience reacted, it kinda forced his hand.

He certainly kept harping on another non-issue, the "Wall Street transcipts," yet he himself never produced but one truncated tax return.

Meanwhile, Hillary ran no negative ads against Bernie that I saw. And there was a ton of negative stuff on Bernie she could have brought out. She just didn't bring it up. She just talked about the issues, like his votes against the Brady Bill.



SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
85. He was NOT suggesting the emails were a bullshit issue (which it was). Quite the opposite.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 07:49 PM
Dec 2016

I think he meant exactly what he said, that he was sick of hearing about it. He later confirmed that he thought Hillary's emails were a "very serious issue," and worse, that "there was a legal process taking place." And then in the same breath, had the gall to say he was not politicizing it and that “I am not going to attack Hillary Clinton,” “The American people will have to make that judgment.” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-emails_us_56ae254be4b077d4fe8e7023
Thus he legitimized the GOP talking points on the Clinton emails that Hillary broke the law by having a private server and that there was a criminal investigation of Hillary taking place because of it, neither of which were true.

I believe he was trying to say at that debate what many of his supporters said, that her emails and other "scandals" were Clinton baggage that they were sick of, and was one of the reasons they did not support Hillary. I think that Bernie started to say that, but only got out the "sick of" part before he was cut off by the audience applause and Hillary saying "I agree" and shaking his hand. He knew he would have been a heel at that point to finish his thought and say "but the emails are a very serious issue." He did finish his thought later, as that Huffpo link shows.

OnionPatch

(6,169 posts)
79. It was a political contest. They are going to criticize each other.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:24 PM
Dec 2016

What about Hillary's attacks on Bernie? If had had won the nomination but lost the general, would it be Hillary's fault?

We can't have a democracy without debate. The idea that Bernie shouldn't have criticized Hillary during the primaries is absurd.

killbotfactory

(13,566 posts)
37. Most people assume that when corporations give or pay you millions of dollars...
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:34 PM
Dec 2016

they expect something in return. Corporations typically aren't philanthropists unless there is something for them to gain from it.

That what Clinton and the Clinton foundation did wasn't anything out of the ordinary or egregious doesn't really help much.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
57. Any sensible politician or political consultant knew big banks wall st. corruption
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:20 AM
Dec 2016

since about, 2008. She gave speeches to them and was secretive about content, anyway. Unforced error that opened her up to be smeared as corrupt from the beginning. Right about the people became more aware of Clinton wealth, she talked about being dead broke upon leaving the WH, and the aligned herself with what many people see as corruption. Then came the discovery of more secretive actions.

She made it easy for them.

Response to Cattledog (Original post)

Response to GP6971 (Reply #15)

GP6971

(31,106 posts)
20. Properly Vet?
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:44 PM
Dec 2016

She's the former first lady or Arkansas, the US, US Senator and US Sec of State. that's not being vetted?

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
30. Wow, your second post and ...
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:14 PM
Dec 2016

You're saying the contents of Hillary's email made her look bad, and
that she wasn't vetted?

You're not going to last long here.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
14. Hillary's favorability was already in freefall at that point.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:11 PM
Dec 2016

The more people thought she might run for office again, the worse her numbers got.





The truth is that she was always a terrible choice as a nominee and anyone on this site during the primaries saw thousands of posts spelling that out very clearly. Why reality was rejected for the pipe dream of an electable Hillary I will never know.


JHan

(10,173 posts)
19. Well the base supported her.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:40 PM
Dec 2016

Your best bet is to brow beat the millions who chose her in the primaries over her opponent.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
24. My point being that the OP is false.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:04 PM
Dec 2016

The media was actually helping Hillary, not hurting her.

Pointing out that people made a bad choice is not brow beating. It is constructive criticism with the hopes that the mistake will not be repeated.

P.S. $64.3 million was donated to Hillary and her Super PACs by big banks. Saying that it was the base that supported her seems misleading.


JHan

(10,173 posts)
26. I switched support from Sanders and O'Malley to Clinton..
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:09 PM
Dec 2016

I am happy with that. You, I assume, supported Sanders - and that's fine.

I think Hillary would have made a marvelous president and she was a decent candidate facing the most trying odds of any candidate in a presidential election in an incumbent year.

Also , Hillary has consistently gotten negative coverage over the years. She was dragged to the level of the Trump so badly, she was viewed as "lesser of two evils" - an unfair characterization. She was vastly superior to Trump by every metric.

If your bone of contention is that some big banks donated to her campaign, that is nothing new - big donors have existed in our party for decades.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
33. The most trying odds of any candidate in a presidential election in an incumbent year?!?!?!?!?
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:27 PM
Dec 2016

Care to back up that statement?



My bone of contention is that Hillary was supported by big money and political insiders far more than the base. Your statement about the base supporting her seems to be in error.

Hillary did not get negative coverage. Only her hero worshiping devotees think so.

Remember that big story about her flip flop on ethanol subsidies? You know... Seventeen votes in the Senate one way then switching positions in Iowa during the primary.

Remember that one? Neither does anyone else.. because it was never covered.

How about her evolution on marriage equality? She called marriage a "Sacred" bond between a man and a woman, then evolved on that stance after polls had marriage equality approval well above 50%.

Guess what. Sacred is the correct word when referring to the Sacrament of Marriage but it has no place in a discussion about civil marriage. The media just let her slide on that one. No need to explain that flip.

Yes, there were some negative stories about her because she was a terrible candidate. Over all, the media went easy on her.

She wasn't dragged down to Trump's level. When the entire country's positions are taken into account, she was already there. Yes, I voted for her because she would have been the lesser of two evils, and yes it is a fair comparison.

If you look at her record, she has gotten a lot of things wrong the first time and then taken way too long to figure out she was wrong. It is very possible she would have been a terrible President. We will never know.

P.S. Sorry if this breaks the "Hillary Is Perfect" Rule (thinly disguised as the "No Bashing Democrats" Rule) but the discussion turned into a debate about Hillary as a nominee. I see no other way to address this other than to point out her weak points. Hide it if you must, but the truth will still exist, even if this post doesn't.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
38. This is really why we can't have nice things:
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:39 PM
Dec 2016

You know it's really interesting this: I accepted that you supported Sanders, without taking you for task for it - because it is water under the bridge and I do not care but of course you have to take me to task for my support of Hillary. So here we go *SIGH*

"My bone of contention is that Hillary was supported by big money and political insiders far more than the base. Your statement about the base supporting her seems to be in error. " -

The numbers don't lie- she won the popular vote and Sanders remained competitive because of caucuses.

"Remember that big story about her flip flop on ethanol subsidies? You know... Seventeen votes in the Senate one way then switching positions in Iowa during the primary.

Remember that one? Neither does anyone else.. because it was never covered.

How about her evolution on marriage equality? She called marriage a "Sacred" bond between a man and a woman, then evolved on that stance after polls had marriage equality approval well above 50%. "

Stick a pin in it about politicians shifting their views on issues. No really. Stop. And Obama flipflopped as much as Clinton on gay marriage. This is from however long ago, how far are you going to go to hunt for inconsistencies in a politician's stance on issues?

And spare me the diatribe about ethanol subsidies - which are far from simplistic.

And no, I do not think Hillary is perfect




SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
25. She was at 50 % favorability in early 2015. That is not freefall.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:04 PM
Dec 2016

If you look at when that line took a sharp tick downward, it was when the email story came out and Sanders entered the race (April 2015) and started bashing her.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
27. down 9% from the previous year and a total of 14% from 2 years earlier
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:09 PM
Dec 2016

Yes, already in free fall.

Her continued decline was simply an extension of the pattern


 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
35. Benghazi was bullshit and anyone not a bat shit crazy (R) knew it.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:29 PM
Dec 2016

I don't think that really hurt her much.


Having the FBI investigate her was different. That hurt.

Was the media supposed to ignore that???


SunSeeker

(51,504 posts)
42. The FBI was not investigating her. You swallowed the biased reporting.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:57 PM
Dec 2016

Last edited Thu Dec 29, 2016, 04:09 AM - Edit history (1)

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
66. This is false on its face, we already know their aren't a lot of politicos and should know DU isn't
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:21 PM
Dec 2016

... normal

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
69. Your bias certainly forces you to choose language creatively, regardless of its accuracy.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:26 PM
Dec 2016

Your bias certainly forces you to choose language creatively, regardless of its accuracy.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
39. This is from Pew Research :
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:46 PM
Dec 2016

Seems she was at 58% Aug of 2014 when there were rumors she would run, and when she officially announced her run she was hovering around 50%

http://www.people-press.org/2015/05/19/hillary-clinton-approval-timeline/

Afterwards, the republicans intensified their Benghazi BS.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
72. It wasn't "in freefall", it was just down from her numbers as SoS, closer to 2008.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:42 PM
Dec 2016

Which is entirely expected: approval numbers drop when people run for office, and also the GOP had already been attacking her in anticipation of her run.

What really turned her numbers down were the media and a dishonest negative campaign from Bernie Sanders.

NBachers

(17,080 posts)
18. I read the first couple of paragraphs. I can't read more. I'm already dejected enough.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 09:39 PM
Dec 2016

I already know what happened. I already know how it happened. My physical, mental, and emotional health are already at too low a point to have it thrown at me in detail like this. I'm living the nightmare every day, and still trying to make my life go.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. I supported Clinton 100%, but the media didn't have to do a thing
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:23 PM
Dec 2016

to manufacture Clinton hatred. There was plenty of it one white wingers and even right here. We blame the media sometimes when the culprits are others.

still_one

(92,060 posts)
53. While you are correct about the right wing hatred of Clinton, the media was NOT an innocent
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 06:38 AM
Dec 2016

bystander "just reporting the facts, you decide". They actively fostered and exploited it.

I cannot tell you how many times the talking heads would characterize Hillary as "shrill, angry, and never smiles"

The interview with Matt Lauer was a perfect example of the media's double standard:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/08/us/politics/matt-lauer-forum.html

There are a lot of examples like that, but perhaps the most fatal one was when MSNBC was the first network to report that the "FBI had reopened the email investigation". That was NOT a true statement. Immediately after MSNBC reported that, they then paraded every right wing politician across the television screen, propagating that LIE. Within in an hour CNN and other outlets were reporting the same falsehood.

A few days later, Bret Baier from fox news reported that, "according to his sources in the FBI, an indictment was pending against the Clinton Foundation". That was a LIE, and it was picked up by other news outlets. Two days later, Bret Baier apologized saying his information was incorrect, and he should not had reported that, but the damage was done. In fact, fox news continued to repeat that lie, along with the trump campaign.

There are so many examples of the media being a willing partner in exploiting the Clinton hate, but it even went beyond that. The media conveyed the normalization of that hate, along with racism and anti-Semitism.

One of the most outrageous was when CNN debated for a few minutes the question, "are Jews really human?":

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/21/cnn-reaches-debating-trump-admit-jews-people.html

The media did NOT treat the candidates by the same standards. A Harvard study confirmed that:

https://www.good.is/articles/hillary-clinton-negative-press

The Bill Moyers article goes into depth about this:

http://billmoyers.com/story/last-night-3/


guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
32. If the corporate media had devoted as much time to Trump's actual history in business.....
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:24 PM
Dec 2016

We cannot know at this time what would have happened, but the emails and the "untrustworthy" and "crooked" memes received massive coverage and were inserted into nearly every story.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
61. they sure fucking did... plus a lot of lefty media outlets were only too happy to join in on
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 09:21 AM
Dec 2016

bashing Hillary-- how many critical articles did we see in Salon, Truthdig, Consortium News, Common Dreams, etc where her record was smeared endlessly.

Cha

(296,780 posts)
41. The m$media****** got dumphuck selected.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 10:53 PM
Dec 2016
How the Media Manufactured Hatred of Hillary Clinton

"The fact is that Hillary Clinton wasn’t unpopular when she announced her decision to run in April 2015. If you look at the Gallup survey in March of last year, 50 percent of Americans had a favorable impression of Clinton, only 39 percent an unfavorable one. So there was clearly no deep reservoir of Clinton hatred among the general public at the time. On the contrary: Americans liked her; they liked her quite a bit.

Already by June, however, her favorability had not only taken a hit. It had plummeted. By July, according to Gallup, her favorability hit an all-time low with only 38 percent positively and 57 percent viewing her negatively — putting her 19 points underwater."

http://billmoyers.com/story/last-night-3/

Thank you, Cattledog

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
43. I like that this article talked about Hillary's consistent efforts to discuss economic issues.
Wed Dec 28, 2016, 11:01 PM
Dec 2016

It was written before the election. In other words, before the media decided to settle on a ridiculous version of events where HRC lost because she didn't have an economic message or try to focus on pocket book issues.

 

Kuhl

(30 posts)
54. She'd been out of the lime light for a while preparing...
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 06:42 AM
Dec 2016

It's reasonable to expect change one way or another once folks starting seeing her and thinking about her as a possible President.

Significant change itself is not indicative of shenanigans.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
59. Please, it was sexist witch-burning
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:52 AM
Dec 2016

...and I'm a leftist Democrat, was never a huge fan of her. However, I never understood what was so TERRIBLE about her, either. I never found her unpersonable. Just seemed like her detractors were imagining things.
 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
62. The Lefty Media Tore Her Apart
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 11:46 AM
Dec 2016

Salon, AlterNet, commondreams, and the other usual suspects were feeding the liberal Hillary haters daily even after the primary ended. When they finally started to panic and post a few positive articles the comments were brutal.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
63. It wasn't just the media.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:06 PM
Dec 2016

Not by a long shot. I read DU daily. I read other websites, too. It wasn't just the media. Truly.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
70. She made some questionable decisions from a political standpoint between 08-16
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 12:28 PM
Dec 2016

By setting up that email server and the paid speeches. Note I said political and not legal.

She had to know that she was going to run again and being a veteran of the process she had to know that an opponent could make hay out of the these issues.

I think she must have made the calculation that these would be a non-issue or could be easily explained away. I think the email server especially really eroded the opinion of her. It could be argued that the media would have come up with something else but they didn't have to.

We know that the emails contained nothing from a legal/ethical standpoint but politically they were killer.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
78. "deeply flawed" "most disliked candidate", phrases every TV story employed, Rachael Maddow & Chis
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:14 PM
Dec 2016

Hayes deserve kudos for including these notions consistently in their coverage. Usually after devoting their first 20 minutes to Trump or as I eventually thought of it: gratis Trump PR.

But really every single story I read about Hillary Clinton in every source seemed to require some version of those damning phrases. Why it is as if they were essential instructions in the 2016 political style books for all "news" outlets.

Of course those phrases are icing on the cake of nearly 40 years of covering Clinton in as negative a manner as journalist's juvenile minds could concoct.

 

bowens43

(16,064 posts)
80. the hatred is real.....it's been there for decades.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:57 PM
Dec 2016

How could so many not have seen it? How did so many miss the hatred from the right toward her over the years? The right didn't even scratch the surface of the scandals real and manufactured that they could have thrown at her.

azmom

(5,208 posts)
82. In campaigning against Obama in 08 there was already
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 04:51 PM
Dec 2016

talk of her not being likeable. Remember the "you're likeable enough" line Obama used.

It seemed to be an issue for her back then too.

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