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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 01:30 PM Dec 2016

KERRY: "if the choice is one state, Israel can either be Jewish or Democratic, it cannot be both."

Kerry's speech was still advocating for the two state solution, but he said if Israel tried to ignore that and de facto absorb the Occupied Territories, it comes down to this.

Can America support a multi-ethnic state where one ethnic or religious group has far more rights than the other?

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KERRY: "if the choice is one state, Israel can either be Jewish or Democratic, it cannot be both." (Original Post) yurbud Dec 2016 OP
Sure. We do it all the time. HassleCat Dec 2016 #1
The United States... ymetca Dec 2016 #2
this could be a signal that the costs of supporting them are exceeding the benefits yurbud Dec 2016 #4
Given how Israel treats its minorities, I would say the choice was made many years ago. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #3

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
4. this could be a signal that the costs of supporting them are exceeding the benefits
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 04:08 PM
Dec 2016

and certainly once oil is no longer an economic and geopolitical factor, the blowback on us from Israel's actions will be a lot harder to defend.

Israel thinks they will always get their way with us because they always have, but they would be wise to prepare for the day when they won't.

This should be a wake up call to Israelis who don't support ethnic cleansing of the occupied territories, to get in the driver's seat and steer their country toward justice.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
3. Given how Israel treats its minorities, I would say the choice was made many years ago.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 02:00 PM
Dec 2016

But this is no surprise to US politicians. Israel has indeed been absorbing occupied Palestine since 1948. The process accelerated in 1967 and continues to this day.

Israel is a limited democracy, but mainly for its Jewish citizens.

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