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Am I the only one seriously annoyed by the new term "cyber?" (Original Post) Atman Dec 2016 OP
your tone sounds a bit pitchy. nt LaydeeBug Dec 2016 #1
out in cyber space used to be one of my favorite sayings madokie Dec 2016 #2
. Johnathan146 Dec 2016 #3
Nope. Exactly the opposite. Atman Dec 2016 #5
. demmiblue Dec 2016 #4
That is exactly what comes to my mind when I hear "cyber"! csziggy Dec 2016 #20
The MSM trying to sound "cool" with ridiculous lingo. Oneironaut Dec 2016 #6
Wait a minute...I'm twittering. Atman Dec 2016 #7
That's a "jaw dropping" post! n/t KatyMan Dec 2016 #10
No, I loathe it muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #8
Trump didn't invent the term fescuerescue Dec 2016 #13
I looked up the earliest forms in the Oxford English Dictionary muriel_volestrangler Dec 2016 #17
Nope Egnever Dec 2016 #9
hate it hate it hate it. And it's my business. fescuerescue Dec 2016 #11
Cybersecurity is an actual degree now and my son is getting it sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #12
I've been working in information security for 20 years fescuerescue Dec 2016 #14
it's just a word so it doesn't bother me. sarah FAILIN Dec 2016 #15
"verbing weirds language" - I believe that is the way Calvin phrased it DrDan Dec 2016 #16
Nice post, cyberatman!! madinmaryland Dec 2016 #18
New? cyber sex is very old school. From the days of psysops, a/s/l ???!! - Sunlei Dec 2016 #19
I hate it. cyberswede Dec 2016 #21
when don the con used "cyber" in the debates it was clear he had no idea what the word mulsh Dec 2016 #22
That's why the word caught on. fescuerescue Dec 2016 #23

madokie

(51,076 posts)
2. out in cyber space used to be one of my favorite sayings
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:17 PM
Dec 2016

when referring to myself or friends who are computer savy

In the context you give I'm not crazy for its use though

Atman

(31,464 posts)
5. Nope. Exactly the opposite.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:25 PM
Dec 2016

It's the cyber!

It sounds like something my grandparents would say..and they've been dead for twenty years.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
20. That is exactly what comes to my mind when I hear "cyber"!
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 10:19 PM
Dec 2016

Right as I was typing that my husband came in and objected to my thought that "cybermen" was one of the earliest general uses of "cyber." So I found this:

<SNIP>

But where does that elusive ‘cyber’ come from anyway?

Cybernetics

Before there was cyber-anything, there was the field of cybernetics. Pioneered in the late 1940s by a group of specialists in fields ranging from biology to engineering to social sciences, cybernetics was concerned with the study of communication and control systems in living beings and machines. The interest in how systems work is reflected in the etymology of cybernetic, which comes from the Greek word kubernētēs (κυβερνᾶν , ‘steersman’, from kubernan ‘to steer’.

The role played by cybernetics in the growing fields of computer science, biology, and engineering provided the term ‘cybernetic’ a futuristic sheen. The shortened combining form cyber-, it soon became apparent, offered people perfect fodder for nonce formations. Starting in the 1960s and continuing into the 1990s, the English language saw a proliferation of temporary or nonce words based on cyber, including cybercubicle, cyberfriend, cyberlover, cybersnob, and even adverbs like cyber-sheepishly. The most lasting word creation of the 1960s, though, was certainly cyborg, which, combining the cyb- of cybernetics with the org- or organism, referred to a man-machine being with the capability of self-adapting to new environments.

Even though the term cyborg originated in a scientific publication, the concept quickly became the province of science fiction, with the appearance of cyborg-inspired cybermen on the television show Dr. Who by 1966 and in Martin Caidin’s 1972 novel Cyborg, which served for the inspiration of the television shows The Six Million Dollar Man and The Bionic Woman.

http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2015/03/cyborgs-cyberspace-csi-cyber/


He's now conceded.

Oneironaut

(5,485 posts)
6. The MSM trying to sound "cool" with ridiculous lingo.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:26 PM
Dec 2016

Don't even get me started with "BOLO" and "Epic," or using social media as a source. You're friggin journalists! I die a little inside when I see the lack of professionalism in journalists today - they act like they're talking to a bunch of teenage girls. Criiiiinge...

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
8. No, I loathe it
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:32 PM
Dec 2016

'Cybernetics' was fine, since it was to do with guidance and control - the root being the Latin/Greek words for 'helmsman', as for 'governor'/'gubernatorial'. 'Cybermen' was OK, because it was only scifi, and also it was about a cross between cybernetic mechanisms and men. 'Cyberspace' was a silly word since it was actually about a virtual space, rather than one involving physical objects being controlled, and should have been left in scifi. 'Cyber' on its own is a stupid Trumpism.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
13. Trump didn't invent the term
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:43 PM
Dec 2016

It's use predates his campaign.

I believes it's simply an easy to pronounce word that the media jumped over because they THINK they understand it.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,265 posts)
17. I looked up the earliest forms in the Oxford English Dictionary
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 09:27 PM
Dec 2016

Apart from 'cybernetics' itself, we have:

1961 Wall St. Jrnl. 15 Aug. 8/4 A major difference between the Cybertron and conventional computers..is the ability of the Cybertron to make use of raw data and signals.

but 'Cybertron' is now used in 'Transformers', so googling exactly what the early 60s 'cybertron' was is useless. Then I find that as well as William Gibson's 'cyberspace' starting in 1982, we also have Douglas Adams:

1982 D. Adams Life, Universe & Everything xi. 63 Zaphod had spent most of his early history lessons plotting how he was going to have sex with the girl in the cybercubicle next to him.

and I'm physically incapable of criticising Adams, so I'm going to have to learn to accept the prefix. I still don't like it as a standalone word.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
11. hate it hate it hate it. And it's my business.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:40 PM
Dec 2016

I've reluctantly began using the term Cybersecurity to describe what I've been doing for 20 years.

I still cringe when I when I say it and I say it daily. Maybe hourly.

But the trend of the terms adoption is bigger than me and tilting agains the windmill of it is a waste of my energy.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
12. Cybersecurity is an actual degree now and my son is getting it
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:42 PM
Dec 2016

Cybersecurity /Computer Foensics. He graduates in May we hope as long as this last semester goes as planned. This is his 6th semester, so it's not a new word, just now getting the attention it deserves. NOW I see that the NSA has been having summer camps for kids trying to get middle and high school kids into this field. Too late for us. He gets an Associate Degree the week before he graduates high school.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
14. I've been working in information security for 20 years
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:46 PM
Dec 2016

The term has been around for awhile, but it's only been in the last couple years that it's use is common place.

I've only given in, in the last year to using the term.

It's a horrible term, but the industry has basically settled on it - much to my chagrin.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
15. it's just a word so it doesn't bother me.
Thu Dec 29, 2016, 08:55 PM
Dec 2016

I'm just glad people are working in the field. I've said for years it was such a dangerous situation to have computers controlling our lives so minutely. There is even a wi-fi crock pot now at walmart that you can control with an app. That's crazy to me that we need to turn a crock pot off online, lol

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
22. when don the con used "cyber" in the debates it was clear he had no idea what the word
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 12:09 AM
Dec 2016

means. he kept calling it "the cyber" and hinted that it was really important and stuff.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
23. That's why the word caught on.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 12:10 AM
Dec 2016

It's easy to remember.
Vaguely Sexy

Sounds technical, but doesn't require that you understand it.

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