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pstokely

(10,525 posts)
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 05:29 AM Dec 2016

Duck Dynasty vs. Modern Family: 50 Maps of the U.S. Cultural Divide

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/26/upshot/duck-dynasty-vs-modern-family-television-maps.html?smid=tw-share&mtrref=www.thewrap.com&gwh=52FBD5F6241B828B1B49CC90467D0A85&gwt=pay&_r=0

"In the 1960s and ’70s, even if you didn’t watch a show, you at least probably would have heard of it. Now television, once the great unifier, amplifies our divisions.

This reflects the business of television as much as it does a fracturing national culture. In the past, notes James Poniewozik, the chief television critic for The New York Times, big network shows like “The Beverly Hillbillies” “reflected a business where sheer audience numbers were more important.” Now, advertising money is driven less by volume and more by demographics. You make more ad money, Mr. Poniewozik explains, by appealing to younger, more affluent, urban viewers.

Still, there are shows that find broader appeal. We’ve created a fandom map for each of the top 50 shows, ranked in order of the difference between their highest and lowest fan percentages. As you get deeper in the page, you’ll find the shows with more consistent popularity — points of unity in a splintering culture."
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Duck Dynasty vs. Modern Family: 50 Maps of the U.S. Cultural Divide (Original Post) pstokely Dec 2016 OP
i didn't read the article and just quickly looked it over. but it looks like a lot of shitty reality JI7 Dec 2016 #1
16 & pregnant is popular where the teen pregnancy rate is the highest pstokely Dec 2016 #5
Thanks! The article kind of supports my hypothesis about The Walking Dead... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #2
Yeap, I never see any of these shows with 15 blacks, Muslims, gays and one or two white people... uponit7771 Dec 2016 #3
The black characters on that show typically don't last very long either. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #4
Different perspective. Amimnoch Dec 2016 #7
I was generalizing too much, I guess. Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #9
Is Jesus gay? awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #14
hmm NewJeffCT Dec 2016 #8
Not true. n/t Brainstormy Dec 2016 #11
Hey, Norman Reedus was in The Boondock Saints, and that was awesome! Calista241 Dec 2016 #12
And his character has grown... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2016 #15
Fascinating and frightening... Auggie Dec 2016 #6
If I want to talk about TV shows around a water cooler, then... Buckeye_Democrat Dec 2016 #10
Hard to see it as bad, since treestar Dec 2016 #13

JI7

(89,244 posts)
1. i didn't read the article and just quickly looked it over. but it looks like a lot of shitty reality
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 05:54 AM
Dec 2016

shows are popular in the rural areas. and that could explain why Trump did so well there .

pstokely

(10,525 posts)
5. 16 & pregnant is popular where the teen pregnancy rate is the highest
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 06:50 AM
Dec 2016

Last edited Fri Dec 30, 2016, 07:34 AM - Edit history (1)

and many of the rural ares probably just watch old Green Acres or Beverly Hillbillies reruns

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
2. Thanks! The article kind of supports my hypothesis about The Walking Dead...
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 06:36 AM
Dec 2016

viewers.

I think it's basically a fantasy for people wanting a "fresh start" in the world. The main protagonists weren't particularly successful prior to the zombie apocalypse, but now it's simpler to understand! Hit some slow zombies in the head, loot stores and kill some small game. Most of the people with fancy book learnin' were killed or turned into zombies! The biggest threats are the people outside your little group. They're "outsiders" and they're almost always dangerous!

Where is it most popular? Appalachia!

The most popular character? The one who looks like people they know.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
3. Yeap, I never see any of these shows with 15 blacks, Muslims, gays and one or two white people...
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 06:42 AM
Dec 2016

... who don't know how to shoot a gun.

It 100% opposite

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
7. Different perspective.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 08:05 AM
Dec 2016

The character of Morgan has been there since the very first episode. He's been one of the strongest moral compasses in the series. He's definitely not dependent or subservient to the main character.

I've sort of seen it as one of those back-door appeal with subtle progressive points of view.

A lot of the typical stereotypes for this genre are broken. Look at the Carol story line. Carol was an abused housewife. She's become independent, and a strong woman. Michone, and Sasha are definitely not wall flowers just waiting to be zombie food. There's also 2 very effective gay characters in Aaron, and "Jesus".

No argument that it has a very.. base.. level of appeal, But I do give it some props for diversity, inclusion, and breaking down of traditional stereotypes normally found in this genre.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
9. I was generalizing too much, I guess.
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 08:37 AM
Dec 2016

It's a show that I kind of enjoy hate-watching sometimes, trying to figure out why it gets such high cable ratings.

It also strikes me as a soap opera with zombies in it. The only coma was Rick at the beginning, though.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
14. Is Jesus gay?
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 10:06 PM
Dec 2016

I don't remember that. Either way, I agree with what you say. Sure, there is zombie killing and what have you, but the show is more about the people and their interactions. I am glad that the script writers kept Carol in. In the comic book version, she gets tired of dealing with it and commits suicide (by allowing herself to get bit) when they were still at the prison.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
8. hmm
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 08:12 AM
Dec 2016

The Walking Dead has several gay characters on the show - Aaron, his boyfriend Eric, Jesus, Tara and her now late girlfriend Denise. Daryl Dixon (pictured a few posts above) is questionable as to whether or not he's gay or straight as it hasn't come up.

Also, they have several black characters - Michonne has been around since the end of season 2 and is one of the leaders and most popular characters on the show, now on season 7. Most black men have not had a long life span, though Morgan has been around since Season 1, episode 1 and is still on the show.

But, you could also say that blonde women don't have a long life span on the show, either - Amy in season 1, Beth, Andrea, Sophia, Jessie and one or two others I'm probably forgetting.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
15. And his character has grown...
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 10:10 PM
Dec 2016

he started off as some redneck who has only been in it for himself, to becoming a fighter for the whole of the group.

Auggie

(31,160 posts)
6. Fascinating and frightening...
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 07:24 AM
Dec 2016

under the wrong control this fracturing nurtures/promotes anti-progressive and anti-science ideology.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
10. If I want to talk about TV shows around a water cooler, then...
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 08:39 AM
Dec 2016

I should live around Denver CO according to all of the maps.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
13. Hard to see it as bad, since
Fri Dec 30, 2016, 10:32 AM
Dec 2016

you are more likely as an individual to find something you really like. And you can watch past shows online. I started watching TWD since my sister and her family liked it, and was able to go back to the beginning and catch up.

If you want to improve your Spanish, you can watch entire series that have already been aired. Or British or Australian series.

If you like documentaries they are endless on you-tube.

It also strikes me as there must be a lot more actors that can find work. Even with the reality binge, there are still a lot more shows it seems like.

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