Are Deplorables traitors too?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

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	19 (86%)
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	3 (14%)
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[LonePirate]

1. I wonder how the deplorables feel about their leader being Putin's cuck.

They sure love to toss out that word against anyone and everyone and now we have a prime example of its proper use.

[Pholus]

28. +1

With the local conservatives I have started referring to Trump as "Putin's boy in DC."

When they got angry with the disrespect I observed that since they knew who I was talking about there is an obvious basis for the claim. They are free to prove that he is not a neo-Soviet stooge JUST LIKE they told me Obama was free to prove he was not a Kenyan-born muslim plot to destroy the country.

[forthemiddle]

41. Didn't we know before the election that Russia hacked the DNC?

Why would that change a Trump voters mind now?
I remember Hillary talking about it at the debate. None of this is post election news.

[BlueCaliDem]

2. They've heard from the get-go tRump's ties to Putin and his soft words for the dictator.

They chose to ignore these things and voted for him anyway because they believed that Hillary Clinton was the devil incarnate.

Their stupidity and prejudice helped get Putin's puppet elected.

Calling them Deplorables is actually being too nice and cordial. They're TRAITORS to this country, just like the man they helped into the highest office of the land.

As an American who loves her country with all of her heart, these TRAITORS disgust me.

[TreasonousBastard]

3. Most of them are too stupid to be proper traitors...

A traitor sells out his country for something of value. It could be money, power, or anything else of value.

Just sending it down the bonehole for the hell of it is lunacy.

[Pholus]

30. "Useful idiots" is the appropriate description.

[DaleFromWPB]

4. This is just crazy ...

Last edited Fri Dec 30, 2016, 12:35 PM - Edit history (1)

We need to be figuring out how to get our economic message to the 65 million people that voted for someone other than HRC.

Calling them names and degrading them isn't going to covert them.

There is a very good post somewhere on this board correctly stating that not every Trump voter is a bigoted, homophobic, xenophobic racist.

I've seen a lot of posters here admit that they 'held their nose' and voted for HRC. I believe many of Trump's voters did the same thing.

Too many stores of people voting for Kerry and PBO twice and then pulling the lever for Trump for them to be traitors.

Let's cut back on the name-calling, demonizing, un-friending, and exclusion from family events and work on bringing those people back into the fold along with convincing non-voters to show up

This post sums it up better than I can
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512669984

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Do the voters who gave Hitler pluralities in the 1932 and 1933 German federal elections get a pass?

Calling them names and degrading them isn't going to covert them.

-DalefromWPB

Do the voters who gave Hitler and his National Socialist party pluralities in the 1932 and 1933 German federal elections get a pass?

If the answer is no why do American voters who gave Trump his plurality get a pass?

Let's cut back on the name-calling, demonizing, un-friending, and exclusion from family events and work on bringing those people back into the fold along with convincing non-voters to show up

--DalefromWPB

Hard to bring people who believe that Mexicans are "criminals, rapists, and murderers" , blacks live in shitholes where you "can't walk without getting shot", Muslims should be barred from entering the United States and the ones who are already here should be surveiled, and that is okay to "grab women by the pussy" into the fold. Hell, I don't want to be in their fold and I doubt they want to be in mine.

[el_bryanto]

11. You can't just assume that every Trump voter is the same person

Many Trump Voters are never going to be on our side because their a racist or hateful; however other people who voted for Trump could be convinced to support liberal candidates in the future.

Bryant

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. Lots of illiberal people will vote for liberal politicians if there is something in it for them.

I have no doubt a starving Deplorable would let a Muslim buy him or her dinner.

[el_bryanto]

16. Possibly - Do you believe that humans can change or improve

Or do you largely think that once you reach adulthood you largely stay the same? There are certainly arguments to support each position.

Bryant

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Most of the research suggests people are fixed in their beliefs...

Most of the research suggests people are fixed in their beliefs and look for evidence that confirms them and ignore evidence that refutes them.

[el_bryanto]

19. Nods - So I've read as well, although I have a hard time accepting it

Seems so depressing to live without the hope of redemption.

Bryant

[world wide wally]

17. If they aren't convinced by what is about to happen, I don't think anything can convince them

[libtodeath]

6. They voted for a racist bigot,fuck them and any crys of innocence.

I hope they suffer and help us reach out to non voters to show just how much better liberal policys are for people.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. I don't want them to suffer. To be candid I don't know what I want to happen to them.

I think I will leave it up to God. I do think they are horrible human beings.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. "Do you have loved ones who voted for Trump who you KNOW are NOT racists/sexists/bigots? "

[loyalsister]

46. I have friends and loved ones who voted for HRC and would qualify as deplorble

Tying racism exclusively to Trump or Bannon or any other individual ignores the real issue.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. The real issue is that Trump won

The real issue is that Trump won and will appoint Supreme Court justices who will remove governmental protection from those most in need of it. The real issue is that Trump will repeal the Affordable Care Act and leave twenty million Americans without health insurance. The real issue is that he has filled his Cabinet with racists, reactionaries, and reprobates.

The real issue is that hate crimes are mushrooming because Trump's racist, anti-semitic, Islamophobic, and homophobic devotees feel emboldened.


The real issue is that Trump will hurt the people in my life I care deeply about. His voters have stabbed the rest of us in the back. I am not going to give them a pass because they are American just as if I were a German I wouldn't have given a pass to my fellow Germans who voted for Hitler.

[loyalsister]

49. If you want to really take on the bigotry

you cannot exclude the people who did not vote for Trump. It will only enable the bigotry to fester and be used again.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. I want to take on bigotry...

In that vein reporters asked Joe Louis how he could serve his country in WW ll when his fellow African Americans were being discriminated against at home. The Brown Bomber said "ain't nothing Hitler can fix."

Well, bigotry ain't nothing Trump and the Deplorables can fix.

[loyalsister]

52. Nor can any Democrat who thinks it is isolated to Trump

Trump only got away with exploiting it because our culture itself had room for it. He succeeded because our power structure and the people in it is dominated by white supremacy.
If it were only about Trump, would it be a legitimate strategy to support a Democratic candidate who exploits bigotry in order to win?

[world wide wally]

12. Nice pep talk.

But, he still didn't get more votes. He lied through his teeth from day one. He is still an obnoxious baby man and he still worked with Russia?
So, do we dumb down to appease his voters, or is it time for them to use their brain just a little?

[ismnotwasm]

15. Actually, we need to figure out

How to get our message out to that part of the eligible population that doesn't vote at all. Deplorables can go fuck themselves

[nini]

35. LET'S QUIT EXCUSING THESE IDIOTS

Jesus Mary and Joseph.. these people have put us on the edge of fascism here. This is no minor difference of opinion anymore. I can' agree to disagree on many things.. this is not one of them. Sadly, they're going to have to suffer before they wake up and unfortunately the rest of us will go down with them.

Sorry I am not going to forgive and forget here when I now have to fear my grandson will be sent off to a bullshit war, I fear being able to retire etc.. NO - JUST NO. These people need to be shunned.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

36. I wasn't making these posts after Bush* was elected and re-elected.

And look at all the damage he did after running on a boilerplate GOP platform.

[nini]

37. Same here.. I didn't think they would do anything that would take 2 generations to undo

Having the likes of Paul Ryan around is not helping my mood one bit.

I don't care what happens to me.. but my grandson? Oh hell no.. this is my own war with those damned jerks who allowed this to happen.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

38. I was sorely disappointed but I never felt our experiment in self governance, however flawed...

I was sorely disappointed but I never felt our experiment in self governance, however flawed, was in danger. I can't believe posters are pooh poohing the threat Trumpism represents.

[nini]

40. They're in denial if they think the worst can't happen here

We're ripe for a major mess and those voters were talking about allowed themselves to be duped by a party that has never done a damn thing for them.

Those voters simply do not pay attention and now they've put people in place who threaten the very foundation of everything that made this country great.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. America is so large and diverse that any attempt to forcefully pacify it would end in its ruin.

[Jim Beard]

43. The problem with the nose holding is the republicans were too and they will .....

continue to vote republican. If they voted for Trump. they are hardcore republicans.

[TrekLuver]

7. Some of them are.....no poll option for that. Of course it's the usual suspects.

All the fake conspiracy lovers are firmly entrenched under Putey's Balls.

[femmocrat]

9. They knew he was a snake when they joined him.

It was no secret.

[Vinca]

13. It depends. If they choose Russia over this country, yes they are.

The ones who blindly follow Dear Leader as they lose their healthcare and social benefits are probably in that category.

[RedWedge]

20. Can we use even more alienating and dehumanizing language?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. Do you have kind words for the Germans who gave Hitler

Do you have kind words for the Germans who gave Hitler and his National Socialist party pluralities in the 1932 and 1933 German federal elections?

I will think about incorporating them in to my lexicon when discussing Trump supporters.


Thank you in advance.

[RedWedge]

22. I just feel like I don't have enough options to consider on this poll.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I should have added indubitably.

[RedWedge]

24. I really feel like you could sweep farther and much more generally.

You're kind of just going through the motions here.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. "By their fruit you will recognize them..."

[RedWedge]

29. Don't just aim high, DSB. Aim HIGHER.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.

The sad truth is that most evil is done by people who never make up their minds to be good or evil.

-Hannah Arendt

The hottest places in Hell are reserved for those who in time of moral crisis preserve their neutrality.


-Dante Alighieri

In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.

- Martin Luther King, Jr.

To ignore evil is to encourage it.

-DSB

[RedWedge]

32. Now that's what I'm talking about!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

33. "Sunlight is the best disinfectant"

"Sunlight is the best disinfectant."


- Oliver Wendell Holmes

I will never shy away from shining a light on the bigotry, the xenophobia, the nativism, the anti-semitism, the Islamophobia, the racism, the sexism, the misogyny , and yes the treason of Donald Trump and his merry band of Deplorables.


It has become my raison d'etre.

[loyalsister]

47. Stanley Milgram tells the tale

He proved that many if not most people are very obedient and will do dispicable things under circumstances where they are pressured by authority, and when someone else takes responsibility.

http://www.simplypsychology.org/milgram.html


Milgram's work was twisted and inhumane by any ethical standards that respect individuals. But the results are telling.

[Floyd R. Turbo]

26. In a word, yes! On second thought,

FUCK YES!

[treestar]

27. not literally, but figuratively

you know you're going to immediately get the quote on how it only applies to actions in wartime and the vote is not public. But figuratively you could say they betrayed the nation as a whole for partisanship.

[MountCleaners]

34. Their politics are treasonous

Look, they don't even support preservation of our natural history:

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/12/bears-ears-gold-butte-national-monument-utah-nevada/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=link_tw20161230&utm_campaign=Content&sf48765675=1

[demosincebirth]

39. I would say more like stupid and uninformed

[Jim Beard]

44. I agree mostly stupid.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. I wonder what Lyndon would make of Trump.

[Ilsa]

50. They will support TrumPutin even as they

watch a nuclear weapon from China or Russia go off in their own neighborhood, the denial is sp thick.

[JCinNYC]

53. woohooo

7 more names to add to ignore - thanks for self-outing.