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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,937 posts)
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:48 PM Jan 2017

Neil Gorsuch: How Democrats Should Respond

It’s important to remember just how radical — and, yes, unprecedented — the Senate’s approach to the previous Supreme Court nominee was.

Republican leaders announced last March that they would not consider any nominee. They did so even though Barack Obama still had 10 months left in his term and even though other justices (including Anthony Kennedy) had been confirmed in a president’s final year.

The refusal was a raw power grab. Coupled with Republican hints that no Hillary Clinton nominee would be confirmed either, it was a fundamental changing of the rules: Only a party that controlled both the White House and the Senate would now be able to assume it could fill a Supreme Court vacancy.

The change is terribly damaging for the country’s political system. It impedes the smooth functioning of the court and makes it a much more partisan institution.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/31/opinion/neil-gorsuch-how-democrats-should-respond.html

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Neil Gorsuch: How Democrats Should Respond (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2017 OP
Help! I'm in an LGBTQ group and they're posting online. Should I tell folks to flood Shumer's office Upthevibe Jan 2017 #1
WTF? mrgorth Jan 2017 #4
Join the activist organizations, they'll flood you with requests to bucolic_frolic Feb 2017 #14
That's why Noam Chomsky recently called the today's GOP "a candidate for Most Dangerous Organization IamFortunesFool Jan 2017 #2
If Democrats consider this nomination, then the Republicans will try to disallow any future Trust Buster Jan 2017 #3
Agree. There must be a price paid for blatant obstruction. Va Lefty Jan 2017 #6
How about you let people think for themselves? Rage4Bacon Jan 2017 #5
Oh I'm sure they can Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2017 #7
How about you learn some manners. brer cat Jan 2017 #8
HUH????????????????n/t Upthevibe Feb 2017 #9
This is a discussion board. athena Feb 2017 #10
Message auto-removed Name removed Feb 2017 #12
Like Bannon, he is a radical christian nationalist bhikkhu Feb 2017 #11
I'll reserve judgement Nativechef Feb 2017 #13
Don't appease! Friend or Foe Feb 2017 #15
this democratic experiment heaven05 Feb 2017 #16

Upthevibe

(8,040 posts)
1. Help! I'm in an LGBTQ group and they're posting online. Should I tell folks to flood Shumer's office
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:55 PM
Jan 2017

with calls? What's a good first step for a bunch of pissed off gay and lesbians?

bucolic_frolic

(43,141 posts)
14. Join the activist organizations, they'll flood you with requests to
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:09 PM
Feb 2017

email your senators (and ask for contributions)
Democracy for America
DailyKos
ActBlue
and all the rest

IamFortunesFool

(348 posts)
2. That's why Noam Chomsky recently called the today's GOP "a candidate for Most Dangerous Organization
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 09:58 PM
Jan 2017

in human history".

I hate those guys...

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
3. If Democrats consider this nomination, then the Republicans will try to disallow any future
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 10:00 PM
Jan 2017

Democratic president's SC nominee because they know that there will be no price to be paid.

brer cat

(24,560 posts)
8. How about you learn some manners.
Tue Jan 31, 2017, 11:09 PM
Jan 2017

You won't last long here if you continue to post nonsensical and rude posts to long time, respected DUers.

Response to athena (Reply #10)

bhikkhu

(10,715 posts)
11. Like Bannon, he is a radical christian nationalist
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:28 AM
Feb 2017

and has no business in a government based on freedom and equality. I think its important to realize the ideology of what we are up against, and to move beyond historical resemblances with past discredited regimes. What they are is radical christian nationalists, and they are far more of a threat to the US and our future than anyone outside the country.

Nativechef

(27 posts)
13. I'll reserve judgement
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:05 PM
Feb 2017

until I know more. But I would like to make lite of the piece at the following link.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/01/31/opinion/why-liberals-should-back-neil-gorsuch.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fm.facebook.com
It was posted up by a former high School classmate that is a full partner of the firm that the author is.
I'm not advocating for this guy just want to put this out there for all to read.

Friend or Foe

(195 posts)
15. Don't appease!
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 12:51 PM
Feb 2017

"Elections have consequences."

The plain fact is that the Democrats failed in getting out the vote. Period.
The silver lining though is "redemption". The fact that so many of us are now expressing our displeasure with the result and demonstrating in many different forms, forums and mediums, will likely send a message to current representatives.

Both Republican and, especially Democrats, should be made aware that it is no longer "business as usual". Democratic reps need to understand that their strategies of appeasement will not work anymore.

If you want to follow the appeasement route (Heidi Heitkamp) in order to protect your seat, then you'll have two elections (hopefully) to participate in. And it's likely, that the primary may be the harder of the two.

The other side has made it clear that they WILL NOT COMPROMISE. So, if we give in, that's not a compromise, that's appeasement. The term "appeasement" means to yield or concede to belligerent demands in a conciliatory effort, sometimes at the expense of justice or other principles.

Now is the time to draw the line in the sand and not cross it. Yes. There will be short term pain and discomfort. But the reward at the end of the struggle is worth it!

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
16. this democratic experiment
Wed Feb 1, 2017, 01:40 PM
Feb 2017

is now a fascist experiment with ONE party of so-called leaders calling all the shots....damaged...yes extremely so, lets hope not FUBAR

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