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Perhaps someone in the White House gave a heads up to them because they wanted our soldiers massacred. That would give them a pretext for a larger incursion. Think Mogadishu without the restraint of Bill Clinton. Then we have a rah rah military moment and people lining up behind the POTUS. A big popularity surge which is much needed. Fortunately, we have kick ass Seals who extricated themselves without getting massacred. Why were boots on the ground even needed?
Talk me down please.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/al-qaeda-fighters-yemen-ready-seal-raid-source/story?id=45177216
WheelWalker
(8,943 posts)fleur-de-lisa
(14,615 posts)Mind you, I'm not saying this, but 'people' are saying it. Therefore, using Cheeto logic, the allegations that the White House alerted Al Qaeda to the location of U.S. Navy Seals are true.
The White House gave a heads-up to Al Qaeda.
See? That's how it's done in New Trumpfuckistan.
MrPurple
(985 posts)But it's just unfounded conspiracy theory thinking to say that in this incident, we purposely lost a soldier.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)They are evil but no, that wouldn't happen.
Plus this raid was planned and proposed under Obama. - ETA: apparently early reports were incorrect.
Other articles say it was all tRump's doing
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Although planned under Pres Obama, it certainly wasn't anyone in his administration that leaked the timing as he had nothing to do with that.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)given warning before execution. Hopefully no one did.
woodsprite
(11,854 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)From the accounts I've read, this was a Donald J. Trump production from beginning to end. Do you have a link to a story that confirms this raid was planned and proposed under Obama? Thank you in advance.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)But a U.S. official tells The Daily Beast that planning for this raid started under the Obama administration, including the use of troops on the ground to gather sensitive intelligence known to be at the scene. The official spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to share the information publicly.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/29/one-dead-four-wounded-in-first-anti-terror-operation-of-trump-presidency.html
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)From the quotes in the Daily Beast story, my reading is that the military planning for the raid began during the Obama administration, but that it was not a "top-down" operation. That is, it wasn't something that Obama administration officials were working for, but something that "percolated from operators on the ground."
I will be interested to see if the operators on the ground held up seeking authorization for the raid until the new administration was in place, and if so, why they did that.
It will also be interesting to see how seriously Congress takes these civilian casualties, and how committed Congress will be to square the initial reports from the scene that the military would be "surprised if there were any civilian casualties" with the actual fact of more than 40 civilian casualties. Certainly Republicans made a great deal out of the fact that in the initial reports from Benghazi, it wasn't entirely clear why there had been an attack on the U.S. compound there. Relentless investigation turned up the startling fact that in the confusion of the immediate aftermath of the attack, initial reports weren't all 100% accurate. Will we see a similar dogged pursuit of why the military initially would have been surprised if there were any civilian casualties and the eventual revelation that there were more than 40 civilian dead, and what sinister innuendos can be drawn from that.
Magic 8 Ball says, "Nope."
discntnt_irny_srcsm
(18,470 posts)JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,283 posts)MFM008
(19,776 posts)get this bloated toad out of here.
deminks
(11,006 posts)(snip)
Contrary to earlier reporting, the senior military official said, the raid was Trump's first clandestine strike not a holdover mission approved by President Barack Obama. The mission involved "boots on the ground" at an al Qaeda camp near al Bayda in south central Yemen, the official said.
"Almost everything went wrong," the official said.
(snip)
The child's mother, Anwar al-Awlaki's widow, survived the raid with a minor wound, according to Nasser al-Awlaki. However, Anwar al-Awlaki's brother-in-law was killed in the raid. The death toll varies according to the sourcing, with the Pentagon saying 14 militants died, along with "numerous" civilians. Nasser al-Awlaki said Yemenis were circulating a body count of combatants and civilians as high as 59.
(end snip)
along with the account of the 8 year old girl killed.
bathroommonkey76
(3,827 posts)jmg257
(11,996 posts)The militarys Joint Special Operations Command had been planning the mission for months, according to three senior American officials. Obama administration aides had deliberated extensively over the proposed operation, weighing the value of any information that might be recovered against the risk to the Special Operations forces plunging into hostile territory. But administration officials ultimately opted to hand the decision on the mission to their successors
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/world/middleeast/american-commando-killed-in-yemen-in-trumps-first-counterterror-operation.html
Girard442
(6,059 posts)Actually, one doesn't.
global1
(25,168 posts)they can blame Obama for this.
Hmmmm......
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)The Republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief gets karmic credit for this FAIL. I wouldn't follow this Republican Chickenhawk even into a freakin foam-rubber pillow fight.
MrPurple
(985 posts)Is Trump writing the military press releases himself?
2naSalit
(86,056 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)elehhhhna
(32,076 posts)Than to blow shit up over here, in order to get the same result. I have thought this well before the recent debacle with the seals.
kentuck
(110,950 posts)From all reports, it was a disaster.
MrPurple
(985 posts)No doubt that Trump will throw us into military actions and utterly lie about it, but one week in is awful quick for them to be arranging something like that and if that was their goal, why haven't they been talking about the incident much?
Al Qaeda has their enemies in Yemen that they've warred with and that location was a base for them. So, it would make sense that they'd have sentries on the approaches to town to alert them if anything was coming. The most logical answer is that someone spotted our helicopters on the way into their village and that they had drilled for situations like this.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Response to Jayster84 (Original post)
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Baitball Blogger
(46,575 posts)make it.
ebbie15644
(1,208 posts)someone in the know that was working with the US services warned them as a result of the Muslim ban?