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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFake news, or real news? Journalist recaps call Mexican President received from Trump.
The reason I am posting this with a caveat is that any time I see anything prefaced with "based on sources" these days I am cautious about presenting it as fact, but goddamn it if it doesn't sound exactly what Trump would say, especially with Bannon at his side as he said it:I dont need the Mexicans: Report claims Trump threatened to send troops to Mexico in call with Nieto
The call came after White House press secretary Sean Spicer said during a presser that the Trump administration was considering a 20 percent border tax on Mexican imports to pay for the wall.
Journalist Dolia Estevez told the Mexican news outlet Aristegui Noticias that, based on sources close to both the Mexican president and the Trump administration, It was a very offensive conversation where Trump humiliated Peña Nieto.
Trump reportedly told the Mexican president that he doesnt need the Mexicans, adding, I dont need Mexico. We are going to build the wall and you all are going to pay for it, like it or not.
Estevez added that Trump reportedly threatened to send troops into Mexico to fight against narco trafficking. White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and Trumps son-in-law Jared Kushner were allegedly both on the call. Estevez said, Before this unusual onslaught, Peña was not firm. He was stammering.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/i-dont-need-the-mexicans-report-claims-trump-threatened-to-send-troops-to-mexico-in-call-with-nieto/
The call came after White House press secretary Sean Spicer said during a presser that the Trump administration was considering a 20 percent border tax on Mexican imports to pay for the wall.
Journalist Dolia Estevez told the Mexican news outlet Aristegui Noticias that, based on sources close to both the Mexican president and the Trump administration, It was a very offensive conversation where Trump humiliated Peña Nieto.
Trump reportedly told the Mexican president that he doesnt need the Mexicans, adding, I dont need Mexico. We are going to build the wall and you all are going to pay for it, like it or not.
Estevez added that Trump reportedly threatened to send troops into Mexico to fight against narco trafficking. White House chief strategist Steve Bannon and Trumps son-in-law Jared Kushner were allegedly both on the call. Estevez said, Before this unusual onslaught, Peña was not firm. He was stammering.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/i-dont-need-the-mexicans-report-claims-trump-threatened-to-send-troops-to-mexico-in-call-with-nieto/
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Fake news, or real news? Journalist recaps call Mexican President received from Trump. (Original Post)
Miles Archer
Feb 2017
OP
Yeah, probably any random half hour of him talking to people behind the scenes would end him
MrPurple
Feb 2017
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nycbos
(6,034 posts)1. That is the problem.
It often hard to tell whats real.
TrekLuver
(2,573 posts)7. What is rawstory's reputation?
msongs
(67,395 posts)9. that you even have to ask should answer that question :-)
nycbos
(6,034 posts)10. Not sure. I think they are usually pretty good.
That doesn't mean they are immune to believing a fake story.
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)2. Somebody's gotta tape Trump
I'm sure he acts like an even bigger idiot behind the scenes
MrPurple
(985 posts)5. Yeah, probably any random half hour of him talking to people behind the scenes would end him
MrPurple
(985 posts)3. You need that caveat for any article that says, "Sean Spicer said".
spanone
(135,827 posts)4. L.A.TIMES: Mexican government says Trump never threatened to send troops to Mexico
The Mexican government on Wednesday vehemently denied reports that President Trump threatened to send American soldiers into Mexico during a phone call with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto.
Such a threat did not happen during that call, said a government statement released on Twitter Wednesday night.
"I know it with absolute certainty, there was no threat, Peña Nieto spokesman Eduardo Sanchez said in a radio interview. The things that have been said are nonsense and a downright lie."
The Associated Press and a Mexican news website, Aristegui Noticias, reported earlier in the day that Trump had humiliated Peña Nieto during a phone call between the leaders on Friday.
Such a threat did not happen during that call, said a government statement released on Twitter Wednesday night.
"I know it with absolute certainty, there was no threat, Peña Nieto spokesman Eduardo Sanchez said in a radio interview. The things that have been said are nonsense and a downright lie."
The Associated Press and a Mexican news website, Aristegui Noticias, reported earlier in the day that Trump had humiliated Peña Nieto during a phone call between the leaders on Friday.
http://www.latimes.com/world/mexico-americas/la-fg-mexico-trump-20170201-story.html
angstlessk
(11,862 posts)8. Maybe it wasn't a threat...maybe it was just funnin?
Hey, Enri, your boys ain't doing such a good job...want me to send my boys?
Ms. Toad
(34,065 posts)6. Especially since they are limiting access to the press . . .
It will be harder to tell.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)12. I read somewhere (maybe the Rogue WH Twitter acct)
That 45*'s admin (Bannon probably) were going to plant false stories to try & discredit MSM. I can easily see this being true.
So anything with "WH sources say" is suspect for me.