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pat_k

(9,313 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 07:21 AM Feb 2017

The Atlantic: Where America's Terrorists Actually Come From

Includes something sort of sane from the CATO institute (as well as other sources)

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/01/trump-immigration-ban-terrorism/514361/

Where America's Terrorists Actually Come From

...after sifting through databases, media reports, court documents, and other sources, Alex Nowrasteh, an immigration expert at the libertarian Cato Institute, has arrived at a striking finding: Nationals of the seven countries singled out by Trump have killed zero people in terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1975 and 2015.

Zero...

Between 1975 and 2015, the “annual chance of being murdered by somebody other than a foreign-born terrorist was 252.9 times greater than the chance of dying in a terrorist attack committed by a foreign-born terrorist,” according to Nowrasteh.

Nowrasteh has listed foreign-born individuals who committed or were convicted of attempting to commit a terrorist attack on U.S. soil by their country of origin and the number of people they killed. (see article)...

As Jane Holl Lute, the former deputy secretary of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, said at the Aspen Ideas Festival last year, “What’s been our theory of the case for 12 or 15 years following 9/11? Our theory of the case is the bad guys are out there, trying to come here. … What if [the bad guys are] already here?”...

Trump is understandably focused on the threat from ISIS. But here, too, the statistics don’t align with Trump policy. Since 2014, the majority of individuals charged in the United States with ISIS-related offenses have been U.S. citizens (58 percent) or permanent residents (6 percent), according to George Washington University’s Program on Extremism. Additionally, more ISIS fighters in Iraq and Syria appear to come from Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Morocco, Turkey, Russia, Egypt, and China than any countries included in Trump’s ban.

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The Atlantic: Where America's Terrorists Actually Come From (Original Post) pat_k Feb 2017 OP
I'm gonna say "what is -the sporting goods store with a duffel bag full of ammo", Alex Warren DeMontague Feb 2017 #1
Love it! pat_k Feb 2017 #2
K&R underpants Feb 2017 #3
It really is about individuals that are here being radicalized Sherman A1 Feb 2017 #4
Facts do not matter to Groper Don the Con and his goon malaise Feb 2017 #5
This isn't about terrorists. Ligyron Feb 2017 #6
Why the hell are these 7 countries in INA Code as "countries of concern"? jmg257 Feb 2017 #7
Oil ando gas? pangaia Feb 2017 #9
Give me a break! We all know that science and statistics are fake. You go with your sinkingfeeling Feb 2017 #8
"The Mad King" indeed! DinahMoeHum Feb 2017 #10
I heard this several days s ago while the airport fiasco was going on. world wide wally Feb 2017 #11

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
4. It really is about individuals that are here being radicalized
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 07:58 AM
Feb 2017

And one solution to that is increased employment at jobs that pay a living wage, so that folks have a sense of self worth and feel as if they are getting a fair shake.

malaise

(268,940 posts)
5. Facts do not matter to Groper Don the Con and his goon
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:00 AM
Feb 2017

squad - you will simply have to accept his alternative facts.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
6. This isn't about terrorists.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:45 AM
Feb 2017

It's about keeping as many brown people out of the US as possible while punching Islam.

The Mexicans are next and we can expect a great many deportations soon.

Make America an all white nation and/or establish a Christian Theocracy enshrining Old Testament law. Brown people can be here in small numbers as slaves.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
7. Why the hell are these 7 countries in INA Code as "countries of concern"?
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:22 AM
Feb 2017

And what other countries will trump be adding that make more sense?

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
11. I heard this several days s ago while the airport fiasco was going on.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:27 AM
Feb 2017

Why wasn't Sphincter or Honest Don asked about It?
Are they afraid they will be kicked out of the pressers?
Is this what we can expect from the press from now on?

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