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malaise

(268,919 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 05:11 PM Feb 2017

Pssssssssssssssssst! Dutch will count all election ballots by hand to thwart hacking

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/02/dutch-will-count-all-election-ballots-by-hand-to-thwart-cyber-hacking
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Ministers want no repeat of US-Russia controversy in the March poll that could see Geert Wilders’ far-right party win power
Dutch authorities will count by hand all the votes cast in next month’s general elections, ditching “vulnerable” computer software to thwart any cyber hacking bid, a senior minister has said.

“I cannot rule out that state actors may try to benefit from influencing political decisions and public opinion in the Netherlands,” interior minister Ronald Plasterk said in a letter to parliament on Wednesday.

On 15 March, the Netherlands kicks off a year of crucial elections in Europe which will be closely watched amid the rise of far-right and populist parties on the continent.

Dutch officials are already on alert for signs of possible cyber hacking following allegations by US intelligence agencies that Russia may have meddled in November’s US presidential polls to help secure Donald Trump’s victory.

Plasterk told parliament that fears over “the vulnerabilities of the software” used by the country’s election committee “had raised questions about whether the upcoming elections could be manipulated”.

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The election hacking is getting way more coverage outside of the US
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Pssssssssssssssssst! Dutch will count all election ballots by hand to thwart hacking (Original Post) malaise Feb 2017 OP
To be fair SoCalNative Feb 2017 #1
India has a massive population malaise Feb 2017 #2
Yes..but with the hooligans currently in charge SoCalNative Feb 2017 #3
True malaise Feb 2017 #6
Yet the NVVB conveniently leaves out its sources and citations for the allegations LanternWaste Feb 2017 #4
The Netherlands won't be voting for 10 separate offices and 25 referendums/initatives brooklynite Feb 2017 #5
The whole purpose of the system we use madokie Feb 2017 #7
+1,000 malaise Feb 2017 #9
K&R... spanone Feb 2017 #8
This is really just paranoia Calculating Feb 2017 #10

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
1. To be fair
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 05:23 PM
Feb 2017

it's far easier for the Dutch to do, being a country of only 17 million people. But the municipalities are already pushing back about this:

COUNTING BALLOTS BY HAND TOO EXPENSIVE, UNRELIABLE: DUTCH MUNICIPALITIES

http://nltimes.nl/2017/02/02/counting-ballots-hand-expensive-unreliable-dutch-municipalities

malaise

(268,919 posts)
2. India has a massive population
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 05:25 PM
Feb 2017

Their elections last three days - sometimes democracy is more important than instant gratification.

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
3. Yes..but with the hooligans currently in charge
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 05:28 PM
Feb 2017

there is no way they will do anything that might actually make elections fair and honest.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
4. Yet the NVVB conveniently leaves out its sources and citations for the allegations
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 05:30 PM
Feb 2017

Yet the NVVB conveniently leaves out its sources and citations for the allegations of unreliability it claims.

brooklynite

(94,501 posts)
5. The Netherlands won't be voting for 10 separate offices and 25 referendums/initatives
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 05:58 PM
Feb 2017

Flipping actual machine votes in the US is still an unsupported theory.

madokie

(51,076 posts)
7. The whole purpose of the system we use
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 06:09 PM
Feb 2017

is its hackability. Otherwise none of it would be found anywhere close to an election here.

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