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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 05:36 PM Feb 2017

Trump Couldn't Be Bothered To Be In Situation Room During Failed Yemen Raid That Killed Navy SEAL

During President Donald Trump’s first covert military operation, our craven Commander-in-Chief couldn’t even be bothered to be in the Situation Room. Today, his Press Secretary, Sean Spicer, today stated that Trump was not physically present with Defense Secretary General Mattis and other top security officials to watch and direct the raid.

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/02/02/trump-couldnt-bothered-situation-room-failed-yemen-raid-killed-navy-seal/

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Trump Couldn't Be Bothered To Be In Situation Room During Failed Yemen Raid That Killed Navy SEAL (Original Post) mfcorey1 Feb 2017 OP
Was he on Twitter? guillaumeb Feb 2017 #1
That or watching cartoons! fleur-de-lisa Feb 2017 #8
Watching "Finding Dory". KittyWampus Feb 2017 #25
That's because it failed. subterranean Feb 2017 #2
Hey, it was the weekend BeyondGeography Feb 2017 #3
Our military was looking for al queda and our president was still Finding Dory! mfcorey1 Feb 2017 #6
Perfect madokie Feb 2017 #12
He has Dory's memory problems, but without her charm. nt tblue37 Feb 2017 #35
Mattis was at the Alfalfa Club. He had to leave. deminks Feb 2017 #4
Which meets to honor General Robert E. Lee. gordianot Feb 2017 #10
So not even MATTIS was in the Situation Room? KittyWampus Feb 2017 #26
So who WAS in the situation room? Cracklin Charlie Feb 2017 #27
Your call is important to us, but all of our agents are busy. Thor_MN Feb 2017 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author wishstar Feb 2017 #5
Nap time! Buns_of_Fire Feb 2017 #7
Honestly, the less Trump is in a position to influence events of any kind, the better Alhena Feb 2017 #9
Apparently, they killed numerous young children yet they are proclaiming this a success? etherealtruth Feb 2017 #11
Yes, Trump is on record calling for the killing of families. He promised it. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #30
Killing children is evil HoneyBadger Feb 2017 #53
Maybe that's a good thing since it probably would of turned out even worse since he can't even TrekLuver Feb 2017 #13
Hey - "Finding Dory" isn't going to watch itself! Kber Feb 2017 #14
Question... WilmywoodNCparalegal Feb 2017 #16
Not that Spicer has confirmed Kber Feb 2017 #23
What a pig. This should be everywhere. It would piss off his base no end. Squinch Feb 2017 #15
They are already spouting that Obama never visited the family of a dead Seal.... Thor_MN Feb 2017 #34
Obamas team worked for months on a Syria plan. Trumps team swiftly tossed it. FreeStateDemocrat Feb 2017 #17
It's Trump fault that the raid failed. blue neen Feb 2017 #18
What if a Democrat had done it? gratuitous Feb 2017 #19
Because the story was not about him. kwassa Feb 2017 #20
Off eating frog's legs, no doubt. C_U_L8R Feb 2017 #21
Freedom Legs? Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2017 #32
He was out grabbing some NewJeffCT Feb 2017 #22
Is it up or down a flight of stairs? Fearless Feb 2017 #24
what a lazy, self centered, uncaring, ignorant asshole! gopiscrap Feb 2017 #28
If he would have been there more people would have died world wide wally Feb 2017 #29
He was too busy chatting on the phone with Putin, and I'm not joking: Tanuki Feb 2017 #31
notice the way trump expected a mission success & ready for the big announcement like Obama Sunlei Feb 2017 #37
It certainly makes Ivanka's callous posting of the dress she wore to the Alfalfa Dinner Tanuki Feb 2017 #39
Gawd, that dress is ugly AwakeAtLast Feb 2017 #45
because it lasted for HOURS and was failing. imo, they expected missile strikes to kill everyone Sunlei Feb 2017 #36
The buck stops with no one eleny Feb 2017 #38
I'm going to tell my kids, "this is what 6 hrs of television a day does to your brain" Crash2Parties Feb 2017 #40
Maybe Obabama never told him where the Situation Room was rurallib Feb 2017 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author rurallib Feb 2017 #42
He was moving his toy soldiers around on his desk in the Oval Office. Mc Mike Feb 2017 #43
Was ANYBODY in the Situation Room? NastyRiffraff Feb 2017 #44
That's got to pissed the military off, huh? -nt CrispyQ Feb 2017 #46
Only the Dems. Most of the Rs in the military will support him. Dark n Stormy Knight Feb 2017 #47
That's the last place he should be oberliner Feb 2017 #48
He could have ordered them to retreat immediately. joshcryer Feb 2017 #49
Couldn't Mattis have given that order? oberliner Feb 2017 #50
Yeah, he should've. joshcryer Feb 2017 #52
Mattis was swanning at the fancy Alfalfa Dinner (where Ivanka wore her infamous Tanuki Feb 2017 #56
Interesting oberliner Feb 2017 #57
Mattis apparently only showed up after the Seals Blue_true Feb 2017 #60
He could have ordered an abort when the Seals Blue_true Feb 2017 #59
That is unbelievable. The hypocrisy on the right is overwhelming. AgadorSparticus Feb 2017 #51
WHERE ARE THE CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS???? tanyev Feb 2017 #54
Trump was busy watching Fox and CNN Gothmog Feb 2017 #55
And chatting on the phone with his boss, Vladimir Putin Tanuki Feb 2017 #58

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
2. That's because it failed.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 05:44 PM
Feb 2017

If the raid had been successful, you can bet Trump would be taking credit for it and telling everyone that he was in the room directing the whole thing.

deminks

(11,014 posts)
4. Mattis was at the Alfalfa Club. He had to leave.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 05:46 PM
Feb 2017
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/seal-american-girl-die-first-trump-era-u-s-military-n714346

(snip)

Defense Secretary James Mattis had to leave one of Washington's biggest annual social events, the Alfalfa Club Dinner, to deal with the repercussions, according to the official. He did not return.

(end snip)

So he wasn't in the Situation Room either, at least for all of it.
 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
33. Your call is important to us, but all of our agents are busy.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 07:28 PM
Feb 2017

Please stay on the line and your call will be answered in the order received.

Para español, presione dos.

Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
11. Apparently, they killed numerous young children yet they are proclaiming this a success?
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 06:00 PM
Feb 2017

Malevolent Fucks

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
53. Killing children is evil
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 09:04 AM
Feb 2017

As is bringing them to stay in an AQ camp. Everyone failed these children, from the mother, to Trump, to AQ, to America, to Yemen. No one is blameless.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
13. Maybe that's a good thing since it probably would of turned out even worse since he can't even
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 06:04 PM
Feb 2017

direct a classroom full of children.

 

FreeStateDemocrat

(2,654 posts)
17. Obamas team worked for months on a Syria plan. Trumps team swiftly tossed it.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 06:17 PM
Feb 2017

To the incoming Trump administration, President Obama’s plan to take Raqqa from ISIS was so incremental and risk-averse that it was almost certain to fail. “We found huge gaps in it,” said a senior Trump administration official. “It was poor staff work.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/regional/?cache=false

GENIUSES are now calling the shots!!!!

blue neen

(12,319 posts)
18. It's Trump fault that the raid failed.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 06:19 PM
Feb 2017

There was insufficient intelligence, ground support, or backup operations.

He's got blood on his hands.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. What if a Democrat had done it?
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 06:22 PM
Feb 2017

Isn't the brand-new la-de-dah attitude of conservatives something to behold? Oh, a Navy SEAL got killed in a clusterfuck raid? No biggie; he knew the dangers. The president couldn't be bothered to be in the situation room when it went down? What, he's supposed to be on call 24-7? The military initially said there were no civilian casualties and it turns out there were more than 40? Shrug. Fog of War. Can't know everything right away.

Compare and contrast congressional and wingnut reaction to Yemen with their reaction to Benghazi. I wonder if anyone in the popular media will notice?

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
21. Off eating frog's legs, no doubt.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 06:28 PM
Feb 2017

Trump's no fucking patriot and the troops should
realize they have a feckless and foolish leader.
There is no honor in 'I was just following orders'
when the country is at stake.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
31. He was too busy chatting on the phone with Putin, and I'm not joking:
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 07:23 PM
Feb 2017

(Another poster above mentioned that Mattis had to leave the Alfalfa Club dinner to deal with the ongoing fiasco)

http://www.politico.com/blogs/donald-trump-administration/2017/01/trump-wont-attend-alfalfa-club-dinner-234264

"President Donald Trump will not attend the annual Alfalfa Club dinner Saturday night, an exclusive black-tie dinner — and White House roast — that every president since Ronald Reagan has attended.

Instead of the president himself, a squadron of senior administration officials and Trump family will attend, including Vice President Mike Pence, Ivanka Trump and her husband, White House senior adviser Jared Kushner, White House chief of staff Reince Priebus and counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway.

......"Rather than hobnobbing with senior politicians, billionaire donors and media titans, Trump is expected to speak with Russian President Vladimir Putin by phone on Saturday.".....





Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
37. notice the way trump expected a mission success & ready for the big announcement like Obama
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 07:42 PM
Feb 2017

did when bin Laden was taken out?

Those people at the dinner were his close advisers, helped approve the mission and knew the attack was happening right then. They were staged for the 'big announcement' but the mission didn't go well at all.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
39. It certainly makes Ivanka's callous posting of the dress she wore to the Alfalfa Dinner
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 07:48 PM
Feb 2017

even more despicable than we already knew. By the time she posted, she knew very well what happened.

http://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/01/ivanka-trump-social-media-backlash-for-glamorous-photo

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
36. because it lasted for HOURS and was failing. imo, they expected missile strikes to kill everyone
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 07:31 PM
Feb 2017

first and then get in grab bits and get out. Instead they were there for hours, a 'firefight' shooting woman, kids. The rescue flying in to help wounded crashed. trumps responsible.

Obama set up those missions where the president takes advice from experts and makes the final decision. What I found weird was all trumps people said, go. NON-expert people like bannon! helped trump kill a lot of people. Republicans should be ashamed for letting trump do this.

Response to mfcorey1 (Original post)

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
43. He was moving his toy soldiers around on his desk in the Oval Office.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:00 PM
Feb 2017

He had his Napoleon hat on, and his tongue was sticking out the side of his mouth.


He's a POTUS without a T & U.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(9,760 posts)
47. Only the Dems. Most of the Rs in the military will support him.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 06:49 AM
Feb 2017

Especially the ones flying Trump flags.


Navy: Special forces flew Trump flag in convoy

“Yes, it was inappropriate,” Maxwell said. “It was unauthorized.”

She said she did not know the potential penalties for the violation.

Military regulations say personnel should avoid implying Department of Defense sponsorship or endorsement of any “political candidate, campaign or cause.”

Some motorists said they were alarmed by military units flying the flag of a national leader rather than the country, which they said is reminiscent of a fascist government or banana republic.

Others noted that Trump is now the commander in chief, not a political candidate, and they saw nothing wrong with service members supporting him. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
49. He could have ordered them to retreat immediately.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:21 AM
Feb 2017

As soon as they discovered that they were heard coming in.

Instead it appears that the raid continued without direction and two Americans died because of it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
50. Couldn't Mattis have given that order?
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:23 AM
Feb 2017

One would think he would be more equipped to make that judgement than Trump.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
52. Yeah, he should've.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 08:53 AM
Feb 2017

But they're under pressure by this high energy coked up fuckhead to "perform." Look at when Spicer came out and bitched about crowed sizes like a crazy person. That was straight from The Donald.

So you're Mattis, you've been ordered to "get it done," and you are in the situation room. You get intercepts that the helicopters were heard. Snap decision. Cancel it, disappoint dear leader, or go for it and hope for the best.

I think Mattis was pressured to go ahead with it and wasn't thinking objectively.

Tanuki

(14,918 posts)
56. Mattis was swanning at the fancy Alfalfa Dinner (where Ivanka wore her infamous
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 10:56 AM
Feb 2017

aluminum foil-inspired frock) while the mission was going down.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/01/politics/us-raid-yemen/

..."Secretary of Defense James Mattis was attending the Alfalfa Dinner, an elite social gathering in Washington, at the time of the raid and was informed that the US had suffered casualties during the operation. Mattis left the event to help address the situation.".....

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
57. Interesting
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 11:25 AM
Feb 2017

Jeez, imagine the field day the other side would've had with this tragedy if it had been HRC's administration.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
60. Mattis apparently only showed up after the Seals
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 02:09 PM
Feb 2017

Were down and things were blowing up, per accounts.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
59. He could have ordered an abort when the Seals
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 02:07 PM
Feb 2017

Intercepted transmissions that their surprise raid was compromised.

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