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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:03 PM Feb 2017

Chaffetz PULLS federal land transfer biill!!!!!!

A little more than week after Utah Congressman Jason Chaffetz introduced a bill calling for the disposal of 3.3 million acres of federal land in 10 Western states, the fifth-term Republican announced late Wednesday on Instagram he was withdrawing H.R. 621.

“I’m a proud gun owner, hunter and love our public lands,” he wrote below a photo of himself in camouflage hunting gear, holding his hound. “Groups I support and care about fear it sends the wrong message. I hear you and HR621 dies tomorrow #keepitpublic.”

But with the uncertainty surrounding the Trump Administration’s position on public lands and the Republican Party platform supporting the conveyance of some federal lands, this year the bill seemed more consequential. Especially after the House of Representatives last month passed a rule change that made it easier to transfer public lands by designating federal land sales as “budget neutral” and eliminating rules that prevented the undervaluing of public lands.

Last week 20 outdoor industry groups — including the influential Outdoor Industry Alliance, the National Wildlife Federation and Backcountry Hunters & Anglers — sent a letter to the 115th Congress blasting the rule change, saying the public lands “shape our national identity” and “are critical to the future of hunting, fishing and wildlife and the sustained economic health of communities bordering these lands.”
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/02/02/federal-land-transfer-bill-withdrawn/


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Chaffetz PULLS federal land transfer biill!!!!!! (Original Post) dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 OP
Finally something good happens! Initech Feb 2017 #1
What the fuck is a "proud gun owner?" pangaia Feb 2017 #2
A guy with a small penis. Fearless Feb 2017 #4
Well, I WAS going to edit my post to say, pangaia Feb 2017 #7
"beat" you to a penis joke...tee hee. Yes I am only 12...going on 55. nt trc Feb 2017 #11
I'd better stop while I'm ahead.... pangaia Feb 2017 #15
A photo of himself holding his hound? Bob Loblaw Feb 2017 #18
UNCLE !!! pangaia Feb 2017 #21
Lmfao! Ding ding ding winner! anneboleyn Feb 2017 #9
He's a vacuous twerp. dalton99a Feb 2017 #6
That's high praise malaise Feb 2017 #19
As well as a horrible insult to vacuous twerps everywhere. nt TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #29
Yes malaise Feb 2017 #43
I knew it would be hunters who put a fire hose to his stupid ass eleny Feb 2017 #3
yep - my republican relatives all spoke out. flygal Feb 2017 #10
Yup. They mess up and we have to mop up eleny Feb 2017 #13
I wish he would go hunting with Dick Cheney! Dustlawyer Feb 2017 #23
HAH! Glad SOMEBODY thought of that. TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #30
A "Pop" gun of course! Dustlawyer Feb 2017 #44
Hunters generally are pro-conservation NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #38
Good. I think he heard from his constituents. LisaM Feb 2017 #5
yes! flygal Feb 2017 #8
OH HELL YES! wildeyed Feb 2017 #12
Utah's loss is our gain right next door eleny Feb 2017 #14
Anyone who is somewhat Wellstone ruled Feb 2017 #32
It'll be back. neverforget Feb 2017 #16
They do listen at times. drm604 Feb 2017 #17
Good advice. And include a snapshot of you and your buddies... FailureToCommunicate Feb 2017 #28
Now he's pushing for something else. He wants to stop Federal law enforcement pnwmom Feb 2017 #20
Federal lands, federal law enforcement n/t TexasBushwhacker Feb 2017 #24
All those conservative outdoors groups made it hot for his ass. Blue_true Feb 2017 #22
He should be ashamed he even introduced this let alone use it as a photo op claiming that he TrekLuver Feb 2017 #25
Well, well, well. Chaffetz's little trial balloon was popped, but good. I'm damned sure catbyte Feb 2017 #26
The outdoor sports industry --I wonder if the environmental protection organizations also spoke out? BlancheSplanchnik Feb 2017 #27
Jason Caffetz's hunting hound is looking a little shabby. I think he's got worms... TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #31
Now there are two goofy looking guys! tavernier Feb 2017 #37
It MIGHT be shallow if not for the fact that those guys are even UGLIER on the inside. nt TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #42
They will just try again later and bury it deep inside another bill because we all know that the cstanleytech Feb 2017 #33
Wait for him to introduce HR 622 rpannier Feb 2017 #34
Definitely. It usually starts with a Bill to turn over MANAGEMENT of public land... TrollBuster9090 Feb 2017 #36
They aren't going to be able to slip anything in because people are REALLY watching now NoGoodNamesLeft Feb 2017 #39
But now he's pushing the "Bundy Bill." SunSeeker Feb 2017 #35
I signed a few of those petitions even though I'm not a hunter. Ilsa Feb 2017 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author ribrepin Feb 2017 #41

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
7. Well, I WAS going to edit my post to say,
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:09 PM
Feb 2017

" Is that the same as an ashamed penis waver?"

But you beat me to it.

flygal

(3,231 posts)
10. yep - my republican relatives all spoke out.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:15 PM
Feb 2017

and the protest was started by democrats. I swear we have to do everything!

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
30. HAH! Glad SOMEBODY thought of that.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:43 PM
Feb 2017

I know people use shotguns to hunt ducks, but what do you use for weasels?

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
38. Hunters generally are pro-conservation
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:10 PM
Feb 2017

If Democrats were more pragmatic on gun issues and how important hunting is to rural people many hunters would vote Democratic. Many normally Republican voters would be so easy to lure away just by making more of an effort to truly understand rural voters better.

I lived in Vermont for many years. The majority of voters owned guns, hunted, were strong on the environment and education, watched Nascar and came to support Civil Unions before any other state dared tackle the issue of same sex rights.

Rural voters are way more complex and a study of contrasts than many people realize.

LisaM

(27,801 posts)
5. Good. I think he heard from his constituents.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:07 PM
Feb 2017

A few weeks ago, I had a layover at MSP and got into a conversation with a super nice woman at the airport bar. She lives in his district and she HATES HIM.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
12. OH HELL YES!
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:19 PM
Feb 2017

They saw they were getting caught with their hands in the public cookie jar. Public pressure worked!

An aside, but Patagonia recently announced that they would no longer attend the yearly Outdoor Industry Retailers Association trade show that is held in Salt Lake City due to the disrespect Utah shows to the environment, despite the fact that the outdoor industry bring in many times more state revenue than competing oil and gas interests. They are lobbing to move it to Colorado. Good on them. Kick the bastards in their pocket book, where it hurts.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
32. Anyone who is somewhat
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:49 PM
Feb 2017

familiar with Utah would understand this,it is all about the money. And one group runs the show in one of a couple Theocracies known as State Legislatures. Understand,tons of the Sheeple burned up their so called Congressional Representatives phone lines. Utah has the highest number per capita of Families how use Federally Protected Lands for Camping and other uses. Go Figger Jason.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
17. They do listen at times.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:29 PM
Feb 2017

Call them. Fax them. Every day. Let them know your concerns. It works. This shows that it works.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
20. Now he's pushing for something else. He wants to stop Federal law enforcement
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:34 PM
Feb 2017

on Federal lands -- leave it to the local sheriffs.

So people like the Bundys couldn't be arrested by the Feds.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
22. All those conservative outdoors groups made it hot for his ass.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:45 PM
Feb 2017

Those groups, combined with liberal environmental groups were too much for possum face to ignore.

 

TrekLuver

(2,573 posts)
25. He should be ashamed he even introduced this let alone use it as a photo op claiming that he
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:49 PM
Feb 2017

gives a shit.

catbyte

(34,373 posts)
26. Well, well, well. Chaffetz's little trial balloon was popped, but good. I'm damned sure
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:58 PM
Feb 2017

that this was just the opening move in a plan for a massive sale of public land to the highest bidder. Thank God there was a massive push back against this outrage. They are absolutely despicable. And shameless. Utterly shameful.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
27. The outdoor sports industry --I wonder if the environmental protection organizations also spoke out?
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:02 PM
Feb 2017

And would their dissent help without the profit generators?

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
33. They will just try again later and bury it deep inside another bill because we all know that the
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:50 PM
Feb 2017

goal has nothing to do with getting the land into the hands of the people and everything to do with getting the land and all the minerals and other assets into the hands of those in the 1% at rock bottom prices with a nice kickback to varies Republican politicians.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
36. Definitely. It usually starts with a Bill to turn over MANAGEMENT of public land...
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:56 PM
Feb 2017

...It usually starts with a Bill to turn over MANAGEMENT of public land to a private company. Followed by conversion of some parts of park land to GOLF COURSES...and then finally "oh what the heck? It's not really parkland anyway. We're just talking about putting apartment buildings on golf courses..."

 

NoGoodNamesLeft

(2,056 posts)
39. They aren't going to be able to slip anything in because people are REALLY watching now
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:15 PM
Feb 2017

And voters are pissed.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
35. But now he's pushing the "Bundy Bill."
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:55 PM
Feb 2017
In an apparent nod to the one-year anniversary of the armed occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge and the occupiers’ demands to dispose of public lands and undermine public officials, Chaffetz introduced a second bill that would eliminate federal law enforcement on public lands.

This bill would abolish the law enforcement capacity of Bureau of Land Management and Forest Service officials and hand over all law enforcement powers on U.S. public lands to local sheriffs. The change was one of the demands of the Bundy family and their followers who led last year’s occupation and refuse to recognize that the federal government exists. Local governments do not have the resources to monitor or enforce on public lands.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
40. I signed a few of those petitions even though I'm not a hunter.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 11:49 PM
Feb 2017

I do like wilderness hiking and backpacking, though.

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