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mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:09 PM Feb 2017

I apologized twice today....

I left my mom's apartment to go downstairs & wait for my Lyft ride to go to a doctor's appt.

Father Fernando was on the elevator. He's the pastor for the Catholic Hispanic community for the diocese. The church is in the rear of the apt. Building. I told Father that I was sorry for the words and actions of Trump.

My Lyft driver named Rashad showed up. After settling into the car I asked if I could ask a personal question, he was okay with that. I asked if he was a Muslim, he is. I apologized for the words and actions of Trump. He is from Pakistan & has been here for 20 years. He was laid off from his tech job 3 weeks ago. I wonder if that lay-off has anything to do with his background.

It's a pity that one finds that in meeting people you find a need to let them know what a true American thinks.

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I apologized twice today.... (Original Post) mrmpa Feb 2017 OP
maybe we should wear little pins charlyvi Feb 2017 #1
Personally, I don't think this is the right approach. athena Feb 2017 #2
This! monmouth4 Feb 2017 #3
+1 n/t FSogol Feb 2017 #8
My husband, a business school professor... kstewart33 Feb 2017 #4
asking a stranger about their religion Skittles Feb 2017 #5
I asked permission before doing so..eom mrmpa Feb 2017 #6
the man makes much of his living on tips Skittles Feb 2017 #10
Why are you apologizing? Did you vote for Trump? Bonx Feb 2017 #7
No vote for Trump.... mrmpa Feb 2017 #9

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
1. maybe we should wear little pins
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:15 PM
Feb 2017

saying "I'm NOT with him!". Or ITMFA! (Impeach the Motherfucker Already!). It's going to get very tiring apologizing for four years.

athena

(4,187 posts)
2. Personally, I don't think this is the right approach.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:19 PM
Feb 2017

It might make you feel good, but you have to think about how it makes the other person feel. I don't appreciate it when people ask me about my religion or ethnic background. It makes me self-conscious. It makes me feel that I probably look different and don't fit in as part of the fabric of society. I think it's much better to communicate respect and acceptance through one's demeanor and actions, rather than putting people on the spot and making a big show of what a good person you are.

Muslims and Hispanics are a part of this country. They don't need to explain their religion or background to anyone. They don't need us to apologize for Trump, since only Trump can apologize for his words and actions. (Of course, as a narcissist, he will never do so.) They don't need to be forced to think about the right way to respond to such an apology from a random person. What they need is to be treated with equality and respect.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
4. My husband, a business school professor...
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 08:58 PM
Feb 2017

spent some time after his class last night with one of his graduate students who wears a hijab. She is Muslim.

He apologized for what was happening in the last few days and told her that Trump's actions are not what America is truly about.

She said that she was surprised and comforted by so many people who have come up to her who've said the same thing - her friends, classmates, other students and staff at the university, and even people she did not know. She said that this experience has strengthened her respect and affection for America.

We can have this kind of impact on people who are at risk. It's heartening and inspiring what one conversation can do.

mrmpa

(4,033 posts)
9. No vote for Trump....
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 10:39 PM
Feb 2017

However I live in a country where the government is treating individuals terribly. That government based on ideals is not supposed to be working this way.

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