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kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:07 PM Feb 2017

White House nixed Holocaust statement naming Jews.

Politico:

The State Department drafted its own statement last month marking International Holocaust Remembrance Day that explicitly included a mention of Jewish victims, according to people familiar with the matter, but President Donald Trump’s White House blocked its release.

The existence of the draft statement adds another dimension to the controversy around the White House’s own statement that was released on Monday and set off a furor because it excluded any mention of Jews. The White House has stood by the statement, defending it as an “inclusive” message that was not intended to marginalize Jewish victims of the Holocaust.


Link: http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/white-house-holocaust-jews-234572
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LisaM

(27,804 posts)
1. Because when I think "Holocaust", the word "inclusive" springs to mind.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:08 PM
Feb 2017

I get that other groups besides the Jews were terrorized, but this is still ridiculous.

Next up: St. Patrick's Day. He mentions the "potato famine", but explicitly leaves out the Irish.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
5. this is worse because it was an intentional genocide where Jews were targeted
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:14 PM
Feb 2017

whereas the potato famine was not an intentional event mean to starve the Irish, although it did have that effect

LisaM

(27,804 posts)
6. Actually, it was intended to starve the Irish. Ireland was exporting a lot of food at the time.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:21 PM
Feb 2017

The country wasn't dependent on the potato; but the poor people were.


In Ireland Before and After the Famine, Cormac O’Grada points out, “Although the potato crop failed, the country was still producing and exporting more than enough grain crops to feed the population. But that was a “money crop” and not a “food crop” and could not be interfered with.” Up to 75 percent of Irish soil was devoted to wheat, oats, barley and other crops that were grown for export and shipped abroad while the people starved. Cecil Woodham-Smith, noted scholar and author, wrote in The Great Hunger: Ireland 1845–1849 that “…no issue has provoked so much anger or so embittered relations between the two countries (England and Ireland) as the indisputable fact that huge quantities of food were exported from Ireland to England throughout the period when the people of Ireland were dying of starvation.”

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
11. Jews came to the rescue
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 01:26 AM
Feb 2017

Rothschild sent ships with foodstuffs to allay the hunger. Granted, it wasn't as effective as it could have been, but I thought we should bring this back to Jews in some way.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
14. Thank you for pointing this out...interesting factoid from my family..
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 02:32 AM
Feb 2017

My paternal grandmother was as Irish Catholic as they come, and I mean STAUNCH Irish Catholic. Anyway, her maiden name was Rickles. She was taught from her father that the family came from Ireland during the potato famine, which they did, but it wasn't until as an elderly woman when she visited the ancestry database in Salt Lake City that she learned that, Yes, her family came from Ireland and were definitely here in the US via the potato famine, but that the Rickles family were a mix of Irish Catholics and Irish Jews! Jewish, thanks to those who provided aide to the struggling Irish from the famine and subsequently married and immigrated to the US. Got to love history. You can only imagine how shocked my grandmother was, but, in a good way. As staunch Catholic as she was, she was a woman born before her time, a firey liberal who believed in the power of women, and the underdog...it was as if she could say I might be Catholic but my heritage is also Jewish. She worked the NYT daily crossword with ease until the day she died...God I miss her, but I digress.

This Irish Catholic/apparently Jewish American truly does appreciate you sharing this history!!

LisaM

(27,804 posts)
7. But sorry, not meaning to distract from the Holocaust Day.
Thu Feb 2, 2017, 09:23 PM
Feb 2017

I was just trying to figure out who DT could insult next!

Behind the Aegis

(53,955 posts)
10. There is "re-writing" history, then there is "deleting" history.
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 01:18 AM
Feb 2017

I figure this administration is going for the latter, though will occasionally settle for the former. This is a "win" for anti-Semites of all political sides and stripes, just for different reasons. Start with a group few give a shit about, rehash their history, dehumanize them in less than obvious ways, then when going after other groups, it becomes much simpler.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
12. To be fair
Fri Feb 3, 2017, 01:29 AM
Feb 2017

it was discovered that there was enough Zyklon B in the storehouses to wipe out at least 12 million more people. Maybe the WH was thinking of all the could-have-been victims.

I wonder where tRump is now storing all that extra Zyklon B...

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