Obama Admin: Trump Lying About Raid that Killed Navy Seal

[PearliePoo2]

http://news.groopspeak.com/obama-admin-trump-lying-about-raid-that-killed-navy-seal/

"The Former Deputy Assistant to President Obama has just come out against the Trump administration’s recent claims on Yemen, saying that President Obama was never briefed on “this particular raid.” Trump alone was responsible for it.

President Trump’s first military operation as commander in chief has left about 30 people dead, including at least 15 women and children. At least one of the dead was an 8-year-old girl."

THIS...as Joe would say, "Is a BIG fucking deal."

[BeyondGeography]

1. So O wasn't just waiting for a moonless night to pull the trigger on this deal?

Shocking.

[bettyellen]

26. I saw one reporter saying there were "no moonless nights"

The last months of Obamas presidency. OMG, get an almanac people.

[eallen]

32. I don't need an almanac to know there are a couple of dark nights in ever every 28!

[bettyellen]

33. Me neither- but you'd think they'd check that info....

[malaise]

2. At least one was an eight year old

AMERICAN girl.

[guillaumeb]

9. But she had a Moooooooooslim name.

Another al-Awlaki family member executed without benefit of law.

[gordianot]

3. How many times will Trump use his main excuse?

It was some one else's idea the new version of "I was just following orders".

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

19. You can be sure that "I was just following orders"

will be the main thing we will be hearing at some point in the future from all the people who support the completely despicable things that are now being done under Trump.

[PearliePoo2]

4. Trump and His Team OWN This.

Obama is calling trump a LIAR.


"While unnecessary civilian deaths aren't unheard of in U.S. military operations, officials told Reuters that Trump approved the covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient background intelligence. When the Navy Seals went on to the al Qaeda base unprepared, they found it defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected group of heavily armed Islamist militants.

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said the raid was a glowing success, despite the few mishaps:

“Knowing that we killed an estimated 14 AQAP members and that we gathered an unbelievable amount of intelligence that will prevent the potential deaths or attacks on American soil – is something that I think most service members understand, that that’s why they joined the service.”

President Trump made an unannounced visit to Dover Air Force Base on Wednesday to pay his respect to the fallen US service member killed, Chief Petty Officer William “Ryan” Owens – the first person in the military to die under his administration."

[world wide wally]

7. You know Trump is not going to the funerals of everyone he has killed for the next however many

months. There aren't enough days in a year for that

[jmg257]

5. Wow - so much different reporting on this. Wonder of we will ever know the truth of who knew what.

FEB. 1, 2017
President Barack Obama’s national security aides had reviewed the plans for a risky attack on a small, heavily guarded brick home of a senior Qaeda collaborator in a mountainous village in a remote part of central Yemen. But Mr. Obama did not act because the Pentagon wanted to launch the attack on a moonless night and the next one would come after his term had ended.

With two of his closest advisers, Jared Kushner and Stephen K. Bannon, joining the dinner at the White House along with Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and Gen. Joseph F. Dunford Jr., Mr. Trump approved sending in the Navy’s SEAL Team 6, hoping the raid early last Sunday would scoop up cellphones and laptop computers that could yield valuable clues about one of the world’s most dangerous terrorist groups. Vice President Mike Pence and Michael T. Flynn, the national security adviser, also attended the dinner.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/01/world/middleeast/donald-trump-yemen-commando-raid-questions.html?_r=0

Updated 12:51 PM ET, Fri February 3, 2017
How Sunday's deadly joint US-United Arab Emirates counter-terrorism raid on an al Qaeda compound in Yemen was handed from the Obama to Trump administrations sheds light on the complications that occurred during the sometimes rocky transition of power and has led to a blame game between both camps.

Trump White House aides have defended the mission by saying that it was first considered and approved during Obama's time in office. But former senior government officials under Obama said the former President never signed off on the raid before leaving office. While the military discussed various options for actions in Yemen, the 44th president felt such action "represented a significant escalation of US involvement in Yemen," as one senior government official under Obama said.

Trump first learned of the plan the morning of Wednesday, January 25, days after he had been inaugurated, a White House official told CNN. James Mattis, Trump's secretary of defense, had already approved the raid by the time Trump learned of it, the official added.

Michael Flynn, Trump's national security adviser, presented the President with a written memo about the planned raid in the morning and the two discussed it a number of times during the day, the official said. Trump then asked Flynn to arrange a meeting so he could solicit advice from Mattis and Gen. Joseph Dunford, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Flynn, Dunford and Mattis laid out the scenario for Trump over dinner, explaining to the President -- who has no military experience -- that there are inherent risks with a mission like this.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/yemen-raid-trump-obama/

Updated 2:46 PM ET, Fri February 3, 2017
Former National Security Council staff under President Barack Obama criticized what they said were the Trump White House's attempts to attribute the operation's approval to the previous administration. The raid left one Navy SEAL dead, three wounded and led to civilian casualties.

Trump provided final approval for the raid because it required a presidential green light, but it was months in the making and was okayed at several levels before getting to the President's desk. Trump staffers, military officials and Obama-era Pentagon officials have said that the raid was also approved by commanders and Obama's defense secretary.
Operational details, including the need for a moonless night, pushed the mission window back after January 20.

http://us.cnn.com/2017/02/03/politics/yemen-raid-videos/index.html

[yardwork]

11. The decision to go or not go is made at the last minute. Trump owns this.

[jmg257]

29. No doubt. He's in command. Not sure that's why it didn't go so well though.

[dchill]

16. 'Flynn, Dunford and Mattis laid out the scenario for Trump over dinner,...'

Dinner - a new euphemism for "circle jerk."

[skylucy]

6. These are just the first of many deaths that will likely occur under this incompetent, reckless and

ego-driven administration. The longer the Republicans value their right wing agenda more than our country (and our allies), the more people will die needlessly. There is not a patriot among them.

[rockfordfile]

8. Republican Trump got a American soldier killed.

[NewJeffCT]

14. IOKIYAR

It's OK If You're A Republican

[MontanaMama]

34. Been wondering what this meant...

Thanks.

[NewJeffCT]

39. a lot of scandals that permanently sink Democrats

seem to often barely touch Republicans - Married David Vitter gets diapered and spanked by a prostitute and he gets applauded when he returns to the Senate. Married Eliot Spitzer sees a prostitute and his fast rising career in politics is over.

[lsewpershad]

46. Me two

[heaven05]

10. MY ONLY QUESTION

since this turned into a fustercluck, was the mission(to steal a computer) a success? Killing a bunch of people who have been replaced already...except for the innocent 8 year old child...is not mission accomplished. fuck the boy-potus who would be fuhrer and his handler president bannon.

[keithbvadu2]

12. So what if Obama was previously briefed on a 'possible' raid that he disapproved?

Trump owns this.

[Achilleaze]

13. Hey Republicans: stop lying to Americans

The idea for this post came from a book called The Holy Bible, and I strongly suggest that Republicans familiarize themselves with it. There are within it these so-called Ten Commandments.

Apparently you GO TO HELL FOR ETERNITY if you kiss them off and do patently evil shit like "bearing false witness," which is another way of saying "spew alternative facts."

Don't say no one warned you.

[dchill]

17. Yeah... They're not religious.

[Achilleaze]

21. Actually, what they are not is, they are not honorable

Big diff between strutting around sanctimoniously, and actually following the precepts and commandments of your so-called religion.

[trueblue2007]

15. Trump is way over his head --- HE AUTHORIZED MURDER OF WOMEN & CHILDREN.

[INdemo]

18. will Congress have hearing about this and accusations like they did

Benghazi ? Of course they wont but they sure as hell should

[mnhtnbb]

20. Of course they're lying. They're Republicans, aren't they? That's all they know how to do.

[rtracey]

22. hmmmm

I guess we needed 4 more Americans to be killed for a Benghazi type investigation....too bad this country is going to be a shit pot.

[LisaM]

23. DT will NEVER, NEVER admit he was wrong about anything.

He's not the type to admit a mistake. Kellyanne Conway's not the type to admit a mistake. Bannon's not the type to make a mistake.

That's not normal, and people like that should not be running a convoy of ice cream trucks, much less the country.

[ffr]

24. A TOTAL DISASTER. - tRump (as he would say)

He alone knows how to defeat ISIS. Screw what the former administration's intel had planned for a region-wide multi-faceted strike.

DONALD, YOU ARE THE DISASTER and now people, as we predicted, are dying because of your incompetence!

[ffr]

25. Donald's "Osprey Down" TOTAL DISASTER

While I'm on his hyperbole troll. This is why 3 million more American voters chose the other candidate, not tRump!

Deaths, lack of critical mission safeguards, and loss of a $72 million transport aircraft. Arrogance.

[Ilsa]

41. More like 9-10 million chose any other candidate! nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

27. So. Now we have Trump regime on record lying about National Security operations. . . . nt

[IronLionZion]

28. This is just the beginning

Dude's been in office barely 2 weeks and already killing for no apparent reason and lying about everything.

[Ligyron]

30. I have a feeling those guys were lucky to get out of there with only those

casualties.

Not a good start for this tough guy, militarized administration.

[Tarheel_Dem]

31. K&R! Thanks Obama Admin for setting the record straight and standing up to #alternativefacts.

[MontanaMama]

35. Come on military families!!!

Now is the time to stand up and call them on their hubris and recklessness. The next casualty could be your beloved. There will be more dead. Dump and The Gin Blossom have NOT earned your trust. Please. This is a game to them.

[kacekwl]

36. I'd love to see some Bengazi style OUTRAGE

from the patriots in and out of the military.

[mia]

37. Idiocracy means

never having to say you're sorry... with apologies to Erich Segal.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

38. I saw it called Trumpghazi on twitter.

Where are the countless investigative hearings?

[myrna minx]

40. K&R

[Ilsa]

42. A retired Navy specialist said that as far as she knew,

SEAL teams were not used for gathering cellphone and computer hardware. SEALs are to to extract hostages, kill terrorists, etc. The taking of the technical stuff could be real, but mentioning it also might be window dressing to make it appear that intel was gained to prevent future attacks.

[Native]

43. Has this been verified by any other news source?

[Bengus81]

44. This needs a BIG KICK!!!

This is hugggggggeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[cab67]

45. Trump ordered the raid to look big and tough.

He risked human lives to boost his ratings. Human lives were lost as a result. It should be an impeachable offense.