Trump Voter Shocked When Her Syrian Family Members Were Deported For No Reason

[guillaumeb]

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From the article:

It’s all fun and games until one of your family members gets deported, isn’t it?
That was certainly the case for one Donald Trump supporter, who cast her ballot for the Republican last fall but was left in disbelief when a handful of her Syrian relatives – two brothers-in-law, along with their wives and children – were deported after the new president signed a travel ban targeting Muslims and refugees.
According to a report from Public Radio International, the family members of Sarmad Assali, a Syrian American Trump supporter, have valid U.S. visas but were still deported to Damascus, Syria from Philadelphia International Airport.

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/01/trump-voter-shocked-syrian-relatives-u-s-visas-deported.html

I can feel sorry for the affected family members, but this is one example of an uninformed idiot casting what she thought was an informed vote.

As Lincoln said, you can fool some of the people all of the time. Welcome to the easily fooled club Ms. Assali.

Edited to add:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

They came for your family Ms Assali

[eleny]

1. Shocked?

More accurately - she's *responsible*.

[guillaumeb]

4. Perhaps she is shocked that she is an idiot?

Far too many Trump voters will soon be shocked.

[eleny]

6. I can go along with that!

[NCjack]

53. "Deported for no reason"? She voted for this and got it. nt

[avebury]

38. Agreed. What on earth did she think would happen? nt

[nikibatts]

2. You would be surprised at the numbers of racist, bigoted minorities who are against other minorities

Lots of them voted for Trump and would never vote for a woman.

[guillaumeb]

5. Agreed. And many poor whites are certain that with Trump

they will somehow do better.

[aggiesal]

39. Don't worry, ...

[guillaumeb]

41. Nice graphic.

If only Trumpers did not actually believe it.

[starshine00]

22. there is some nuance to this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2016/11/10/im-a-muslim-a-woman-and-an-immigrant-i-voted-for-trump/

what I understand is that moderate muslims and muslim reformers are very frustrated and uncomfortable with the tendency on the left in the US (aka the 'regressive left') to put all muslims in one box. As most of the victims of islamic terrorism are muslims themselves, and as the sectarian war between shia and sunni muslims rages on, most notably in Syria, the left still does not have a sophisticated understanding of the diversity of the muslim community. Many moderates and reformers are opposed to the salafi practitioners of islam and their extremist views in many countries of immigration, and testify that many of these far right muslims are in fact fronts for radicalizing young men and recruting for ISIS. I was watching a documentary the other day where moderate muslim men in England were protesting demonstrations of far right conservative islamists on the street, and were very eager to disassociate themselves from the extremists and accuse them or being a front for ISIS organizing. We on the western left are doing the muslim community a disservice by trying to put them all in one box. Nomani, who is a professor at Georgetown U and a widely published journalist, makes this pretty clear:

"Finally, as a liberal Muslim who has experienced, first-hand, Islamic extremism in this world, I have been opposed to the decision by President Obama and the Democratic Party to tap dance around the “Islam” in Islamic State. Of course, Trump’s rhetoric has been far more than indelicate and folks can have policy differences with his recommendations, but, to me, it has been exaggerated and demonized by the governments of Qatar and Saudi Arabia, their media channels, such as Al Jazeera, and their proxies in the West, in a convenient distraction from the issue that most worries me as a human being on this earth: extremist Islam of the kind that has spilled blood from the hallways of the Taj Mahal hotel in Mumbai to the dance floor of the Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla."

[Xipe Totec]

26. Trumps rhetoric has been far more than indelicate? Ya think?!!

I've heard harsher rebukes of Trump from Kellyanne.

[starshine00]

27. that's her quote not mine

and could you for a moment listen to what she is saying and try to understand why? She's a muslim immigrant who is worried about islamic terrorism and the failure of the left to address it, it is what many muslim immigrants come here to escape. And she's by far not the only one.

[Xipe Totec]

29. What I hear is she voted for Trump to teach Democrats a lesson. Good for her. nt

[starshine00]

30. definitely her life experience is not real

because none of that stuff really happens. oh fer sure.

[pinboy3niner]

84. Except the family involved in this story is Christian, not Muslim

And that makes their votes for Trump more understandable.

[Turbineguy]

3. "We cheat all the others,

and pass the savings to you!"

[guillaumeb]

7. Soon she will be joined by many other Trump voters

as the GOP makes America hate again.

[sheshe2]

8. I cannot bring myself to sympathize with her.

We shouldn’t need our own family member to be deported or gunned down or denied civil rights in order to support policies that prevent such things. Instead of only caring about Trump’s misguided agenda when it affects them, perhaps more of his supporters should consider putting themselves in the shoes of those who are already being impacted –

They are selfish voters.

[guillaumeb]

9. Agreed she.

And GOP plans to gut Medicare and Social Security are based on the idea that current beneficiaries will be protected. Thus protecting older Americans as it steals from their own children and grandchildren. The ultimate in "divide and conquer" politics.

[AgadorSparticus]

72. I totally agree. I have zero sympathy for people like her.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

10. Her relatives didn't deserve to be deported.

Too bad it can't be her.

I'm totally over having the slightest sympathy for any Trump voter over anything. I wish the worst possible outcomes on all of them.

[guillaumeb]

11. Agreed. It is not their fault that she is an idiot.

This should make for some interesting family conversations.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

12. And of course, all along Trump

was saying how dangerous all Muslims are, and how we need to deport them, not let any into the country. Anyone who heard that and still voted for him is beyond an idiot. And if she never noticed that he said those things, then she's a complete ignoramus who deliberately didn't pay any attention to the election in any meaningful way, but that does not excuse her.

What I wish her relatives would do to her cannot be said in polite society. Not even on DU.

[guillaumeb]

13. Is she any different than the 48% of white women who ignored all of

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Trump's misogynistic nastiness and still voted for him?

Edited to add: It was actually 53% of white women. Sorry.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

14. Nope not at all different.

And as they lose their rights and protections they will have brought it upon themselves. Unfortunately, they'll have brought it upon the rest of us also.

[sheshe2]

16. Nope.

That is a vote that shames me the most, I am ashamed of 48% of my sisters. I will never forgive them for voting against women, for gawd sakes they voted against their own daughters!

[starshine00]

20. 48 percent of white women that voted

not in existence

[tblue37]

43. Wasn't it 53%? nt

[guillaumeb]

73. I read 48%.

And I just checked two sources that both said 53%. So it was worse than I thought.

[JI7]

71. fuck them too

[eissa]

15. Zero sympathy from me

They were fine with all the rhetoric targeting others -- Mexicans, Muslims, African-Americans, etc. -- but thought they were safe because they're Christian. Well, let this be a lesson. Just because you're not singled out doesn't mean you should sit idly by as others are. Sorry their family had to pay the price, but they won't learn until they feel the consequences of their actions.

[guillaumeb]

17. Personally I doubt that many Trump voters can or will learn anything

from this. They are too fixed in their opinions and too certain of their fake facts.

[ffr]

18. Irony. I love it!!!

And the trade union voters who voted for the anti-union candidate.

And the women who voted for the misogynist, pus_y grabber candidate.

And the evangelicals who voted for the anti-christ candidate.

And the minorities who voted for the white nationalist candidate.
...

Shall I continue? You all get what you sowed when you spitefully pulled that lever to hurt others.

[guillaumeb]

19. I loved your ending.

Absolutely loved it. And you are correct, but the worst part is that all of us must suffer because of what these uninformed voters did.

[lark]

21. She got exactly what she asked for.

Too bad so many others were hurt because of her and others stupidity and hate.

[guillaumeb]

24. Agreed.

Possibly she was one of these Trumpers who feel that she personally would not be affected because she is a good person.

I had a discussion with a fellow union member, a GOP voter, who told me that Trump's anti-union rhetoric would not affect him because he is a registered GOP voter. How can anyone break through that much nonsense?

[BlueMTexpat]

23. ANY Arab American who

voted for POS Trump needs their head examined.

[guillaumeb]

25. Any non-rich person who voted for Trump

is in need of help.

[gopiscrap]

28. hey trump humper

imagine that..your stupide non thinking fucking attitude got you to this place...when an asshole tells you he is going to do something-take it to heart!!!

[guillaumeb]

33. The well informed GOP voter receiving her reward.

Perhaps she is confused and thinks she is watching a reality television show.

[gopiscrap]

35. no kidding

I can't believe how stupid these fuckers are

[guillaumeb]

37. I can. I am certain that many Trump voters

also voted for Reagan and Bush.

The genius of Rush Limbaugh, if it can be called that, is that he speaks to the ignorant and unintelligent and convinces them that they are well informed. Flattery works.

[smirkymonkey]

31. I will never understand people like this.

It's too bad her family had to suffer for it.

[guillaumeb]

34. One hopes she suffers also.

Family gatherings should be interesting in that house.

[perdita9]

32. Actions have consequences

And the consequences, in this case, need to fall the heaviest on the Trump voters

[guillaumeb]

36. If only it were true.

If the consequences only affected Trump voters that would be one thing. But every non-rich American will be affected by his reign.

[pamdb]

40. karma

Is a bitch, baby.

[guillaumeb]

42. Welcome to DU.

And yes, actions have consequences.

Who will she blame for this?

[TeamPooka]

44. I have one message for this woman: Go fuck yourself.

I feel bad for the family but fuck you and your now I'm selfish attitude.
You wanted to make America great again.
This is what it looks like.

[guillaumeb]

46. This is one of the results when one party, the GOP, promotes xenophobia all of the time.

And she of all people should know better.

[tblue37]

45. Her husband also voted for Trump, by the way. nt

[guillaumeb]

47. One hopes that any children do not carry the stupid gene.

But the odds are against them.

[TeamPooka]

50. Fuck him too. nt

[Bear Creek]

48. Always

They always believe that the GOP is talking about someone else and it does not apply to me.

[guillaumeb]

49. Of course. They never recognize themselves in the "other".

Pastor Niemoller understood.

[hatrack]

51. Hmmmm . . . fucks left to give for this Trump voter . . . let's see . . .

Pockets . . . nope.

Sofa cushions . . . . nope.

Briefcase . . . . nope.

Sorry for her family members suffering at the hands of this incompetent ass-puppet and his mental incontinence, but . . . as for her . . . nope.

No fucks to be found anywhere.

[guillaumeb]

52. I would try to argue for her,

but except for the uninformed voter defense, or the stupid voter defense, I cannot think of another.

[qwlauren35]

54. I feel guilty for laughing.

It's really not funny. But it's ironic, and sometimes, we laugh at irony, even when there's some pain.

[guillaumeb]

60. I must confess that I did laugh. Voting has consequences.

Perhaps she will learn from this. But I am not hopeful. She clearly is part of the "fool all of the time" segment.

[TrekLuver]

55. And like Bob Marley said: You can fool some people some time but you can't fool all the people

all the time...

[msanthrope]

56. Fuck her. Seriously. Fuck her. nt

[calimary]

58. No need, apparently. Sounds as though trump beat you to it.

[guillaumeb]

61. I was just considering a reply.

But yours said it quite well.

[calimary]

57. Well there's a few votes he won't get next time.

I doubt she'll make that mistake again. And if she complains to her friends, they may not, either.

Unless they're so deeply in denial and embedded in the "Alternative Facts" world that they're beyond help.

[guillaumeb]

62. Would you bet on this family learning?

I would not. Trump is not really convincing people, he is merely saying what they already believe.

[calimary]

66. Yeah, I get that. Considering the mentality of the trump true-believers,

I suspect they'll probably give him another pass, blame it on somebody/anybody else, and just keep on worshipping. This guy is certainly giving "Presidential kneepads" a whole new meaning.

[DonCoquixote]

59. sour my soul

Soon, indeed by 2018, I know that I'm going to have to reach out to many of those Trump voters that slapped me in the face, insulted me, but I do speak of me as if I was some sort of criminal where the very least not a real American, and say "look, you see that Donald Trump is out of control. We have to at least take the sand out of his hands so that he has some restraint, because at this rate will end up in World War III before we know it."

I'm not looking forward to having to make that speech, not just because I have some pride, not just because I feel that the current Democratic Party I have to deal with, especially down here in Florida is barely better than the alternative. Yes it is better, but I am really tired of people telling me to be cheerful when I realize all I have is a choice between one group that dislikes me and it never that actively hates me. However, because is responsible thing, I will be out there in late 2017 really 2018 I do my best to reach out.

That being said: I realized that what will help me in that effort is the fact that by that time a lot of these Trump voters will be suffering, and they will know that they did to themselves. Please keep in mind, many of these people are in my family, and many of these people would be broke or dead it was not for Social Security and Medicare. Yet, they voted for Trump, because he strokes for patriotic pride, even though Steve Bannon would probably like to kill every last one of them, because they are a shade darker than his pale skin that does little but highlight is Gin Blossom nose. I'm going to try not to give into malice, or Snark, but dammit will be an ocean in my ear that is screaming "how do you like your boy Trump now!" The fact that I know my first hope of winning any Trump boater in my side is the fact that they will have to suffer first, and then, and only then will they have a possible insight, as opposed to thinking that they just need to attack and blame others has done an awful lot to sour my soul.

[guillaumeb]

63. I hear your anger. And it is justified.

But the same people that were so easily fooled by Trump can be just as easily fooled again. The GOP will do all it can to blame everything on Obama. Remember the surveys that show a significant percentage of GOP voters blame Hurricane Katrina and Sept 11 on Obama.

And 43% of GOP voters still believe that Obama is a foreign born Muslim.

So while I hope that the Trump Presidency shows these GOP voters what they really voted for, I am not too hopeful.

[d_r]

64. You knew damn well I was a snake before you took me in

[guillaumeb]

65. But they thought that the snake would only bite other people.

Not them. She is a charter member of the "I am easily fooled" club.

One hopes that her relatives let her know exactly what they think of her.

[WinkyDink]

67. Elections have consequences.

[guillaumeb]

68. And one consequence of badly informed people voting is..........

people like Reagan, and Bush, and Trump almost get elected.

[JI7]

69. What a fucking asshole. probably thought he would go after others

And she would have been just fine with that.

[guillaumeb]

70. And those frightening "others" were her own family.

The ultimate in irony.

[BainsBane]

74. How was she fooled?

He said what he was going to do. She didn't listen.

[guillaumeb]

75. She listened for what she wanted to hear.

And ignored the rest.

When Trump talked about the scary other she never imagined that she would be seen as that other. Like the union members who vote Republican and then are astounded to find out that they are also the enemy.

PATCO supported Reagan for President. we all know how that ended. In Wisconsin, the police supported Walker until it was their turn to be the enemy.

[JustAnotherGen]

76. Plus 1000 n/t

[Jakes Progress]

77. I loved the sign I saw at one airport protest:

It said:

First they came for the Muslims,
Not this time motherfucker.

This has to be our attitude.

(So I sort of feel bad about the schadenfreude that I feel about the Assali)

[guillaumeb]

78. Ms Assali made her own choices.

And must live with the consequences.

The sign is appropriate. In our area of suburban Chicago, there was a human chain formed around a mosque at prayer time.

[Beartracks]

79. FFS, did ANY Trump voter understand who/what they were voting for??

Insert facepalm smiley here

=============

[guillaumeb]

80. The 1% understood.

The rest fell for the con.

[Best_man23]

81. Sorry, she bought the con

She owns it.

[guillaumeb]

85. True. And her gullibility now affects her family.

This should make for fun family conversations.

[Cha]

82. What in the holy crap world was it about trumphuck's message that

she liked?

Gawd the stupid burns.

[guillaumeb]

86. The "make America great again" part.

She loved the slogan and that is probably as deep as she went.

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

83. Unfortunately, it is far easier to fool people than to convince them they've been fooled.

They will continue to support Trump, I'll bet.

[guillaumeb]

87. True. To admit to being deceived would conflict

with her self-image of being an informed voter. She will rationalize this as a mistake.