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Bill Maher on Real Time with Sam Harris (Original Post) flamingdem Feb 2017 OP
I am a huge Maher fan but that's one thing I do not agree with. Initech Feb 2017 #1
With all that is going on in canada I will say there is a growing thaw applegrove Feb 2017 #2
Fuck Bill Maher and fuck Sam Harris Spider Jerusalem Feb 2017 #3
Amen Spider.. busterbrown Feb 2017 #5
Really? ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #8
With all due respect, Bill, reforming Islam is not your job Warpy Feb 2017 #4
The bigger point Buckeyeblue Feb 2017 #6
Agreed - religion is delusion. BSdetect Feb 2017 #9
Maher is starting to sound bigoted on the issue of Islam, no matter what facts he gets he ignores uponit7771 Feb 2017 #7

Initech

(100,028 posts)
1. I am a huge Maher fan but that's one thing I do not agree with.
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 01:53 AM
Feb 2017

Especially in America - if you support the first amendment the "radical Islamists" have every bit of a right to free speech as radical Christians do. Reforming Islam could take decades and cost thousands of lives. Changing beliefs is not something that is easy to do.

applegrove

(118,460 posts)
2. With all that is going on in canada I will say there is a growing thaw
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 01:59 AM
Feb 2017

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between Muslims and other Canadians. The Syrian refugees being welcomed in the last year, Canadian anger at alt right inspired spray painting mosques, and then the outpouring of love and affection after the Quebec city shooting have opened our hearts and lots of people are sharing their deepest feelings. Don't know how you open hearts and minds on Islam or anything else without respect. And you have to remember many Muslim immigrants come from places where you don't show any weakness or love to "others". We'll try it this way and see how it goes. We are learning from each other. There are serious issues. I hope the openness continues.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
3. Fuck Bill Maher and fuck Sam Harris
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 02:08 AM
Feb 2017

they're part of the problem, they've been pretty helpful in contributing to a culture of Islamophobia that's behind Trump's travel ban.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
5. Amen Spider..
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 02:43 AM
Feb 2017

Basically this was a terrible show tonight... But thats o.k. because the shows up to this point have been very good

ProfessorGAC

(64,826 posts)
8. Really?
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 07:06 AM
Feb 2017

You reading Frank Luntz lately? Redefining terms for one's convenience is annoying no matter who does it?
Their positions are not islamaphobic merely because you disagree

Warpy

(111,120 posts)
4. With all due respect, Bill, reforming Islam is not your job
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 02:20 AM
Feb 2017

or our job. It's their job and there is tremendous pressure on them to change, mostly from the youthful majority, who have no interest in living in some imagined past when everybody was pure and moral.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
6. The bigger point
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 06:55 AM
Feb 2017

Bill's stance is really that all religion is bullshit. Which I agree with. Worshipping a god no one has ever seen is about as ass- backward as it gets. From that stand point, these various religions are nothing more than social organizations with strange ceremonies. As a social organization, Islam needs to reform. I would say the same thing about Christianity. And any other religion. Enough already!

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
7. Maher is starting to sound bigoted on the issue of Islam, no matter what facts he gets he ignores
Sat Feb 4, 2017, 07:03 AM
Feb 2017

... them and proceeds with a line of thinking that's unrelated to reality

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