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applegrove

(118,615 posts)
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:39 PM Feb 2017

It is the internet that is tribalizing us.We used

Last edited Mon Feb 6, 2017, 03:12 AM - Edit history (1)

to be larger groups and intermingled. Now we only talk to people with the exact views we have. The nuttiest can find like minds to inspire them online. Did not see that coming. Did not see the internet as a force to keep us apart.

As we find connection to those on the Internet we are pulled apart from the places we called home.

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It is the internet that is tribalizing us.We used (Original Post) applegrove Feb 2017 OP
Interesting I had the same conversation with someone else about this today Horse with no Name Feb 2017 #1
Bill Maher had a New Rule about this a while back. Initech Feb 2017 #2
Yup. There is so much choice. Bad choises too. applegrove Feb 2017 #7
I'm still floored that a lunatic fringe conspiracy theorist is getting WHPC credentials. Initech Feb 2017 #11
Well its pretty hostile out there. milestogo Feb 2017 #3
I see it more as a function of right wing talk radio Warpy Feb 2017 #4
Oh that too. For sure the GOP and right applegrove Feb 2017 #6
In much of the country, it's Christian ranters, hillbilly music Warpy Feb 2017 #9
such acceptance you show. dontmatta Feb 2017 #19
Reagan started it with drmeow Feb 2017 #16
Congress also passed 3 Fairness Doctrine bills Warpy Feb 2017 #18
I wish I could rec this 1000 times..... alittlelark Feb 2017 #5
Agreed 100%. I post on 3 boards regularly to keep tribalism at bay for me personally riderinthestorm Feb 2017 #8
alternatively some people are trapped in right wing hell holes and can now msongs Feb 2017 #10
That is true. The Internet I guess increases the good and the bad. applegrove Feb 2017 #13
NOt just the internet. Also cable news. Amaryllis Feb 2017 #12
Yes! The 'net is the wellspring of alternative facts, like "Hitler was a liberal." VOX Feb 2017 #14
The posts to your OP confirm your OP without knowing it. former9thward Feb 2017 #15
Not me. I've always been an iconoclastic blowhard. hunter Feb 2017 #17
That is why it's important to find non marlakay Feb 2017 #20
And the town square has been replaced by corporate malls diva77 Feb 2017 #21

Initech

(100,063 posts)
2. Bill Maher had a New Rule about this a while back.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:47 PM
Feb 2017

He said that we have nothing in common anymore because there's too much out there. And he's right.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
11. I'm still floored that a lunatic fringe conspiracy theorist is getting WHPC credentials.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:08 PM
Feb 2017

The guy who thinks that Hillary Clinton was running a child sex ring and that a massacre of children didn't happen is now getting ascended to the highest level of journalism. Fuck.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
3. Well its pretty hostile out there.
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:48 PM
Feb 2017

I used to post on an ABC news message board. The nastiness was unbelievable. DU can get pretty bad, but nothing compared to being out in the general public.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
4. I see it more as a function of right wing talk radio
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:49 PM
Feb 2017

A lot of people who were disengaged and affably apolitical got radicalized by it and became dinner table blowhards.

Before then, people mostly respected the sex, politics and religion taboos in polite company. Oh, we knew Archie Bunker was all around us but as long as he kept his mouth shut at the dinner table, we could be civil, sometimes even friendly as we brought over a home cooked dinner when his wife was out of town because he'd shoveled our walk last winter.

This country was ruined by propaganda. The net has made it easier to connect with like minded people who either accept it or reject it and has made it far easier for those of us who are introverts.

applegrove

(118,615 posts)
6. Oh that too. For sure the GOP and right
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:54 PM
Feb 2017

hate groups have unlimited money to publish fake news. But someone is listening to the radio.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
9. In much of the country, it's Christian ranters, hillbilly music
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:58 PM
Feb 2017

and right wing talk radio. There's not a lot of diversity in much of flyover country unless you can pick up an NPR station and even some of those fail to provide much of an alternative.

dontmatta

(3 posts)
19. such acceptance you show.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 02:58 AM
Feb 2017

Those evil hillbillies and their damn music and those funky Christians with their religious views. You, sadly, are a bigot. Funny shit.

drmeow

(5,017 posts)
16. Reagan started it with
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 12:19 AM
Feb 2017

the gutting of the Fairness Doctrine. Congress then fast tracked Murdoch's citizenship so that he could start building his media empire. Talk radio started us down this path and the internet made it easier. Being able to be anonymous brought the true deplorables out.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
18. Congress also passed 3 Fairness Doctrine bills
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 12:53 AM
Feb 2017

Reagan vetoed all 3 and Congress couldn't override his veto.

But yeah, that opened the field for solid propaganda on AM radio. Nothing else had a chance.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
8. Agreed 100%. I post on 3 boards regularly to keep tribalism at bay for me personally
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 10:55 PM
Feb 2017

But I find my RL local enviro group and immigration rights group are where I get the most satisfying "mix" of people who cross all party lines.

I love the diversity.

msongs

(67,394 posts)
10. alternatively some people are trapped in right wing hell holes and can now
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:03 PM
Feb 2017

find escape, especially young gay and lesbian people.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
14. Yes! The 'net is the wellspring of alternative facts, like "Hitler was a liberal."
Sun Feb 5, 2017, 11:35 PM
Feb 2017

Or, another RW vintage chestnut: "America is a republic, not a democracy."

The lack of a common information "watering hole" gave the lunatic-right a voice it never had previously.

marlakay

(11,449 posts)
20. That is why it's important to find non
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 03:17 AM
Feb 2017

Partisan groups on the internet and mingle with those people daily.

I joined a group for losing a few pounds, eating healthy and exercising. Started a month ago. We don't talk politics. Every day we encourage each other, are nice to each other. Talk about hobbies, kids, cooking.

I know many of them are republicans but it makes no difference.

The more we live in our own internet bubble the more isolated and unable to get below to the human side of our fellow human beings on this planet.

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