The nightmare continues with unreal pats win

[Calculating]

I feel like this is some kind of bizzaro world lately where evil always wins. First Trump, and now the cheating, lucky, all around dislikeable pats win the SB with the largest comeback of SB history. Feels like the world won't give me a single damn thing to feel good about lately.

[BlueStater]

1. It was just a football game.

Brady's a douchebag, but it's not like him winning affects anyone's life.

[angrychair]

14. It does

It promotes a game, especially for youth, that when played correctly, will cause permanent brain damage.

A win from a team like the patriots, in which the owner, manager and QB are all unabashed trump fans, emboldens the cult of personality around trump and will intensify the radicalism of his followers.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

39. I completely agree... indeed, like the election of the Fuhrer-in-Chief, no doubt in my mind, that not-so-Super Bowl game was fixed!

[greymattermom]

55. Brain damage is nearly universal

and occurs in kids who only play football in high school. The scope of this is much greater than most people realize. I know this because I am a reviewer for grant proposals on brain injury submitted to NIH and DOD.

[LiberalLovinLug]

15. Well, it will affect Trump's life

It will only bloat his ego more if that's possible as he will endow himself with biblical powers and feel everything he endorses or touches turns to gold. This win by his 'good friend' will not only win him some money, as I'm sure he put a few bucks on his friend, but it will puff him up like a peacock and he will no doubt credit himself, in part, for the win.

And we can all look forward to Brady, with the team, in the Whitehouse soon and a speech by Heir Trump of how all the winners are with him, and he'll get a great photo op next to the greatest qb of all time who also supports him. He'll get a bump out it. both kinds.

[bathroommonkey76]

26. Degenerate gamblers would disagree with u. nt

[DrDan]

45. bingo - just a football game - I am quite confident there are plenty of 45-fans on the other side

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. Were Louis-Schmeling or Ali-Frazier 1 just fights?

Whether they like it or not the Patriots to many people became proxies for Donald Trump, just as Schmeling became a proxy for NAZI Germany and Joe Frazier became a proxy for those who opposed Muhammad Ali for his outspoken opposition to the Vietnam War. I would add Schmeling and Frazier never embraced the position of those who made them their proxies but for the sake of this discussion it's not really relevant.

[DrDan]

87. it was a football game, for Chr***s sake - lets not overinflate its importance

[Skittles]

2. IT'S A FUCKING FOOTBALL GAME

PLEASE GET A GRIP

[Agschmid]

4. Yup.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

9. Thank you. I was chided for saying that in other threads.

[angrychair]

10. Yep, glorifying an industry of narcissistic millionaires

That are part of an protected industry that spent years lying, hiding and destroying data and attempting to discredit medical professionals regarding the very real dangers of concussion injuries and fostering and promoting a sport that they knew was causing permanent brain damage in young people.
They continue avoiding the actual truth and foot dragging on actual reforms that will prevent further brain injuries, stop tackling, especially for young people.

FYI, the NFL has made lots of changes that many thought would ruin the sport and it has continued to be successful.

That is why the NFL is actually about politics and why most owners are republicans.

[hunter]

18. Like wrestling, but slower.

[joshcryer]

21. Emotions are strange like that.

[LenaBaby61]

23. PLEASE GET A GRIP.

Agree.

However, Kraft the owner of the Pats is the same kind of guy tRumputin is. As the youngsters say "Cheaters and liars stay winning."

As for Brady, he's a fine player--but some of these folks are unhinged on social media saying that he's the NEW Jordan or better than Michael Jordan is. Now, those folks need to put the crack pipe down

WHAT type of competition has Brady played to win those 5 Super Bowl? Yes, he won most of them fair and square, but the league--for lack of a better word--has "sucked" since around the mid 2000's which is about the time I stopped watching pro football. The rules changes have watered down pro-football to the point that for me and many of the people I know, it's no longer enjoyable and you can no longer play the physical game I'm used to seeing be played in pro-football.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. Jordan was one of five starters who played both offense and defense.

Brady is one of twenty two starters who only plays offense. Jordan had much more of an impact on his team. Jordan also was 6-0 in Finals series.

[tonedevil]

30. Says...

the guy using all caps.

[MFM008]

31. It makes maggot happy

If he gets a happy because of it, I'm against it.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

40. Skittles, I usually agree with you, but it's way more than just "a game"... wait 'til the Fuhrer-in-Chief invites those Patriot cheaters to the White House...

... and the "political hay" that will be made out of this silly game. You'll see. Hopefully, many of the players will stay away in protest and THAT is what will get the most coverage.

[Skittles]

91. THEY PLAY A GAME FOR A LIVING

there are plenty of us out here in the real world who DO NOT GIVE A FLYING FUCK ABOUT SPORTS

[yeoman6987]

3. When you work hard like the Pats did tonight. You win. Simple as that

Nothing buzzar about it. Brady won 5 Super Bowl championships so it is not like it is some miracle. They played their ass off and earned the win.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

42. More like the sPats cheated, AGAIN, to win, this time using a spy drone flying over Falcon practices... that cheatin' team and the Fuhrer-in-Chief have a lot in common!

[my_best_self]

49. The Falcons gave up touchdowns on 4 successive possessions with a championship on the line.

If they stopped any one of the them they would have won. Plus, the Falcons coaches did a terrible job of managing the clock in the 4th quarter. I loathe the Pats but cheating had nothing to do with it.

[ProfessorGAC]

64. Extraordinary Claims Require Extraordinary Proof

I watched the game. I saw no evidence of cheating on either side. What's your proof?

[BannonsLiver]

75. Mmmmmmmm

Your tears are so tasty.....



GO PATS GO!

[blue sky at night]

5. football...

it is not a good thing and really means nothing except in about 4 or 5 cities....wish it would go away! This was my first game of the season and I didn't even watch until after half-time. I really think it is fixed and have for years, just like our latest "election".

Next up is the Baseball season, love that game!

[Calculating]

6. The game felt scripted almost

It was like a sports movie where the team of the protagonist makes a miracle comeback against all odds. The Falcons straight up forgot how to play in the second half of the game. It was like they got a 25 point lead and thought the Pats were just gonna let them win or something. Meanwhile the pats literally had EVERYTHING possible go right heading into the end of the game. They even won the bloody coinflip to instantly win in OT.

I'm just happy that the NBA playoffs are near. Much better game.

[blue sky at night]

22. yes I agree...

I used to be a big fan but not any more...don't like the violence and injuries. I am a Cleveland Fan so we had a good ride last year with our Cavs...and Indians!! I am a new season seat holder for the Tribe so this season is going to be fun for us.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

43. Congrats to your Cavs... talk about your story book endings! (Without the cheating!)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

57. "I'm just happy that the NBA playoffs are near. Much better game."

And the three teams with the best chance to hoist the Larry O'Brien trophy this June are virulently anti-Drumpf. It doesn't take a Vegas oddsmaker to know who they are. I will be sad to see any of the three lose.

[True Dough]

27. Hockey is still in progress!

Lots to love about hockey!

[madaboutharry]

7. I know zero about football and

it didn't matter to me who won BUT....

Lady Gaga was fucking fantastic and that is something to feel good about!

[jonno99]

19. This!

[BeyondGeography]

8. Was that Robby Mook calling plays for the Falcons in the 4Q?

[uponit7771]

32. Yes, throw the ball instead of run the clock out with a top 3 running attack

[orangecrush]

11. ...

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It wasn't a total loss.

[Trust Buster]

12. Nightmare ? Really ? The Resistance movement is so much more than a football score.

[CentralMass]

13. It was a great game with an amazing comeback

[malaise]

36. That simple

One bad turnover and that was that

[HoneyBadger]

16. Evil has triumphed

[hughee99]

25. Blue state team with a majority of blue voter fans beats red state team with a majority of red voter

fans and evil wins?

[MFM008]

33. Brady and his team

Are known cheaters remember his piddly suspension of 4 games when it should have been the whole season for deflating the balls.
They are red players just using republican tactics.
Big fans of BLOTUS.
That's why it's such a downer. If you think it's just football you aren't a Seahawks fan. This place is football crazed.
We lost to NE in the worst 15 seconds in football history 2 years ago.

[hughee99]

46. If you think Brady deserved a whole season suspension for being more likely than not

generally aware that the balls were being deflated (The NFL never even claimed to have proved he was actually involved it this), then you don't pay any attention to football. Even the players involved in bountygate (intentionally trying to injure other players for money) didn't get a full year suspension. The LONGEST suspension for that was only actually 5 games, and that's because his appeal took that long.

and no, I'm not a Seahawks fan.

[NotThisTime]

82. You didn't block Malcolm Butler and he blocked your ball. Do you know how many players aren't going

to the White House? Trickle, trickle, trickle as they are asked. As for Brady, nothing was proven, rather a lot was disproven about the balls. As for who he voted for, Giselle says it wasn't Trump, maybe it was maybe it wasn't. We're still disappointed in his apparent politics, but we don't know. As for the owner and coach, pure right wingers in a sea of blue.

[HoneyBadger]

37. Lets see if Brady visits Trump at the White House, or opts out like he did with Obama

[hughee99]

47. At this point, what difference does it make? You already know that Brady and Trump are friends.

Even if he skips the white house visit, you know your opinion of him and the Patriots won't change one bit.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

58. Mine would. If Brady skips the White House for Drumpf like he did for Obama I will admit I was wrong

And I would be happy about it. I rather have a reason to like somebody than dislike somebody.

[HoneyBadger]

62. No one can change the past, however they can change the future

[ecstatic]

69. Atlanta (and metro) is blue, John Lewis reps a large portion.

Don't know Matt Ryan's politics but at least he shuts the fuck up about it.

[hughee99]

73. So is Boston metro... But both are bigger areas, though.

One fan base is reliably blue and the other is reliably red.

For the entire season, even back when trump had "no path to 270", the press has been trying to get Brady to talk about trump and Brady has said as little as possible.

Having said all that, I know there's nothing I can say that will convince you that Brady isn't the worst of the worst of trump supporters, or that he doesn't represent the entire pats organization or all of New England.

[cilla4progress]

17. I know it's just a game,

But with so many undertones...

If you are familiar at all with the story of Seabiscuit, the racehorse that raised Americans' spirits during the depression in the 1930s, and I'm sure there are plenty of other similar sports stories, you know the impact these games can have.

Besides, it's triggering my PTSD from election night.

[napi21]

20. I know it's just a game, but we sooo wanted /that arrogant jerk, Brady, cut down a few

notches. Not only Brady, but all the damn announcers were saying a young team like Atlanta can'tt possibly beat the Great Brady! Game or not, it still pisses me off!

[Jack-o-Lantern]

24. Mass. Is a liberal state and so are a large percentage of its citizens (Vermont too).

There thousands of progressive Patriot fans there and elsewhere.
Don’t let Trump Kraft and their ilk spoil a fantastic football game, (and BTW the all-inclusive ads and the halftime show were even better than the game).

If anyone gets all upset by the politics of football instead of just enjoying a good game, then simply don’t watch.

[Blaukraut]

29. Don't be ridiculous. The Pats earned that win.

It had nothing to do with Trump, and the team is more than BB, TB, and RK. Even if those three are friends of Trump - many other people are, too, and that doesn't mean they're all evil.

[Hoyt]

34. If the game were of real importance, the outcome would called rigged, a conspiracy, fixed.

[jpak]

35. Those Dastardly Yankees!

[NCTraveler]

38. Amazing game.

I'm not big on football but that was some serious competition. Really good lessons for the youth of America to take away from that game. It was also interesting to see the message corporate America sent by way of commercials.

Simply amazing,

[Achilleaze]

41. There is no whining in football

The Falcons lost to a talented, brilliant football team, The New England Patriots.

Going all 'Trump Republican' by whining and complaining and making sour excuses is lame. Suck it up buttercup. The Falcons lost to a better team that played a better game.

All the whining in the world won't change anything. It just edges the world more and more into the sad Trump Republican poor-sport mindset.

Thanks to both teams for a great performance, and great competition.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

44. This is how decent Americans must have felt when Max Schmeling beat Joe Louis

Look at the bright side... The three NBA teams (Spurs, Cavs, or Warriors) most likely to win the Larry O'Brien trophy all are virulently anti-Drumpf. The only reason I had a rooting interest in it was because of Belichick's. Kraft's and Brady's affinity for Donald Drumpf.

[forjusticethunders]

70. The NBA as a whole is anti-Drumpf if i recall

Furthermore, the NBA is, for lack of a better term, a much "blacker" sport than the NFL and not just demographically. The NFL still retains a lot of "white working class" cultural appeal, mostly because it tries to appeal to all demographics (which is why there was so much anger when Kaep started speaking up).

I mean, Sterling LOST HIS TEAM for being racist. Can you imagine that happening in the NFL?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

72. There are a few pro-Drumpf players like Spencer Hawes...

He's mediocre anyway. I was hoping King James would dunk in his face.

I mean, Sterling LOST HIS TEAM for being racist. Can you imagine that happening in the NFL?

I am here in L A, nope.

[madokie]

48. Was the coach bought off

I mean the Falcons team returning for the second half were NOT the same team as the first half team. Oh it was the same players alright but they played differently. In other words the play calls changed. From going into the locker room to when they came out, it was different.

Thats my story and I'm sticking with it.

Need to be watching bank accounts, or spending habits of the few who make those calls. IMO

[Calculating]

85. Yeah I do wonder

Something just didn't seem legit about how the Falcons played the second half of that game. Dead offense, lazy defense, and a complete inability to make any kind of play. It's like they were coached to lose or something.

[alarimer]

51. At least the Falcons are spared a visit to his Cheetoness.

I imagine every championship over the next four years will be a fight to see who comes in second, just to avoid having to meet that asshole.

[forjusticethunders]

53. Unfortunately it's hard NOT to remove it from the metanarrative.

If the top guys on the Pats weren't such Trump fans it wouldn't matter, especially since New England is deep blue except for New Hampshire (only light blue), but cest la vie.

It doesn't help that Richard "Punchable Face" Spencer openly rooted for the Pats because of how "white' they were.

With that said, Brady is not only the greatest player to ever play American football, he's in the conversation for the greatest American athlete to ever play any American sport (and in the grand scheme of things, while there was probably cheating involved in his accomplishments, it's not as egregious as say, Lance Armstrong). He has more SB rings than any QB in history, and is literally a David Tyree miracle catch (or a dropped Asante Samuel pick 6) and a Wes Welker dropped pass from being 7-0 in the Super Bowl, with a 19-0 season to boot.

I think the conversation is Brady, Jordan, Tiger, Ali, Aaron, Gretzky (if we use "North American" as our definition). Lance would be in it if not for the steroids.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

61. The difference between a boxer and team athletes is he is in the ring alone.

When Muhammad Ali got in the ring with killers like George Foreman, Sonny Liston, and Joe Frazier he was by himself. He didn't have his teammates in there with him.

[forjusticethunders]

68. Btw I forgot Sugar Ray in that coversation

Though there's an argument that the "pound for pound" concept is rather artificial; we all know that Ali would destroy Sugar Ray if they actually faced each other in the ring.

But yeah I see your point; sure it's balanced out that the other players get a team too, but Brady has always had good to exquisite supporting casts, same as MJ.

I'd argue that baseball is an individual sport though, in that your teammates have almost no impact on your individual performance.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

71. Brady is a great player. Belichick is a great coach. Kraft is a great owner.

But I can not discuss them rationally because of their nexus to or affinity for Drumpf. I just can't.

BTW, if you do some research you will discover Ali had faster hands than SRL. That's remarkable given he weighed 50, 60, 70 pounds more.

[mindem]

54. I didn't watch the stupid game.

And it certainly nothing to be upset about when you look at the big picture.

[Warren DeMontague]

56. Hey, at least the Cubs won the World Series

[former9thward]

60. Cubs are owned by bigtime Trump supporters.

So that is going to really disappoint the OP.

[ProfessorGAC]

83. But Run By A Well Known Hillary Suppporter

So, there's that.

[Warren DeMontague]

89. I'm more concerned that it's a sign of the apocalypse, frankly.

[former9thward]

90. Don't worry.

As a south side White Sox fan I think normalcy will return this summer and humanity can rest easy.

[AngryAmish]

92. Who won the World Series?

[amuse bouche]

59. Brady is the best QB in the history of the game

He won fair and square. I am gloriously happy for my Pats and so happy I live in reality and not delusional land.

I would feel sorry for you but why bother ?

[HoneyBadger]

63. Best QB does not mean that one is not a racist

[Lonusca]

65. It should be pretty easy to prove he is racist

He has been in the league 17 seasons. The league is over 2/3 (appx 68%) African American. There must be hundreds of stories given those numbers

[HoneyBadger]

66. BradyTrump supporter

That is all the proof needed. His diss of Obama's White House and yesterday's Richard Spencer tweets are the icing on the cake.

[Lonusca]

67. Exactly - hundreds of stories from the guys

he has spent the majority of the last 17 years around.

[bluedigger]

93. That's uncalled for.

Or does attending Trump's wedding make one racist as well?

[HoneyBadger]

94. Supporting Trump from 2016 forward equals racist

[GliderGuider]

74. No, it's not "just a football game"

It's a symbol. Symbols are very important things in nascent dictatorships.

The SB became a metaphor for America when a large number of the people watching it saw it as exactly that. It was seen by those people as a clash between the forces of light and darkness, played out against a backdrop of high opposing emotions.

That the forces of darkness are perceived to have triumphed is a significant manipulator of public opinion.

It was anything but "just a football game."

[KPN]

77. It was a football game. A distraction from life ...

unless you choose not to be distracted. But then, why even watch?

[GliderGuider]

80. To you, perhaps that's all it was. To others, it was far more. nt

[KPN]

86. That's too bad. I don't see the "forces of evil" prevailed symbology. Some very key

Patriot people happen to support or at least personally like Trump, but not the whole team, not the Patriots fans as a whole. Some of their players have already come out and stated they won't go to the WH congratulatory. .... Some key Falcons people are also Trump supporters.

Re: the SB stage generally, did you not watch the ads?

Yeah, the SB is kind of grotesque when you think of all the money involved and what good that money could do if used for other purposes. But its still just a sport, a football game albeit the biggest one.

[jmg257]

81. Seems like they should have watched Star Wars instead (other than Empire Strikes Back).

Sometimes large numbers of people are just wacky.

How was their opinion manipulated? Suddenly they are all in for trump, cause the Pats won? Are they once again overly depressed and distraught because Falcons lost?

Now THAT would be wacky!

[NutmegYankee]

84. I was at a party that was completely anti-Trump, and yet everyone was rooting for the Pats.

Because we are in New England (Eastern Conn.) and this is our team.

[1965Comet]

76. Go Pats!

Congratulations to GOAT QB Tom Brady!

[Afromania]

78. Cognitive Dissonance

It's amazing how the "alt-right" projects themselves on the Patriots. The team is mostly black people, so there you go.

[KPN]

79. Trump is delusional, seeing and believing fictional events and outcomes wherever

they fail to align with his personally biased view of the way things are. Reading this OP and upstream, I have to wonder whether there are many others like him, just with different bias'.

[okieinpain]

88. im going to have to disagree slightly. as long

as the cowboys weren't playing i'm ok with the pats or falcons winning.