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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:53 AM Feb 2017

SIGNING BLIND - Report: Trump Not Briefed on Order That Gave Bannon NatSec Seat

President Donald Trump complained that he was not fully briefed before signing an executive order that gave chief political strategist Stephen Bannon a seat on the National Security Council, The New York Times reports. The executive order, which gave Bannon an unprecedented security role for a non-military adviser, was reportedly one of a series of orders crafted by Bannon and policy director Stephen Miller. Trump reportedly signed the order without fully understanding the power it would grant Bannon, and grew angry when he later learned the order’s full significance. Other White House staff, including Chief of Staff Reince Priebus have also reportedly expressed concern over what they viewed as a lack of checks on Bannon’s and Miller’s powers. Priebus has since drafted a 10-part checklist of steps and approvals an executive order must receive before it is signed into action, the Times reports. Bannon, the former head of alt-right website Breitbart, has been credited with some of the Trump administration’s most controversial moves, and reportedly told allies that he had a narrow time slot in which to push his own agenda in the White House before other advisers put a check on his influence.

READ IT AT THE NEW YORK TIMES

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/02/05/report-trump-not-briefed-on-exec-orders.html?via=desktop&source=copyurl

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SIGNING BLIND - Report: Trump Not Briefed on Order That Gave Bannon NatSec Seat (Original Post) DonViejo Feb 2017 OP
HE'S ANGRY...I AM ANGRY THAT WE HAVE A LUNATIC POTUS SIGNING EXECUTIVE ORDERS Frogg Feb 2017 #1
I am angered that A) He didn't know Bannon's personal agenda beforehand (allegedly), and Baitball Blogger Feb 2017 #9
Quit whining and void it. dalton99a Feb 2017 #2
We kinda knew DTs was signing EOs to look presidential, but this is the frosting on the cake Hekate Feb 2017 #3
It just goes to show you why they undervalued Obama's accomplishments. Baitball Blogger Feb 2017 #11
what else has he signed? spanone Feb 2017 #4
Oh, wonderful. A POTUS who signs things he MineralMan Feb 2017 #5
"not fully briefed " meaning either he does not want briefs dixiegrrrrl Feb 2017 #6
He's Going "Commando" MineralMan Feb 2017 #10
He is creating his own plausible deniability by refusing to be briefed. Baitball Blogger Feb 2017 #12
Based on reports from those who know him, Trump doesn't have the patience subterranean Feb 2017 #28
He is not capable of taking personal responsibility for anything Shanti Mama Feb 2017 #7
He's obviously not suited to government BSdetect Feb 2017 #8
"I hereby resign the Presidency, effective immediately." Buns_of_Fire Feb 2017 #13
He can't fricken read. He couldn't read a parapgraph in court, can barely read teleprompter. JTFrog Feb 2017 #14
+1 brer cat Feb 2017 #16
Someone took one of his photo ops of one of his exec signings CrispyQ Feb 2017 #15
what will it take bdamomma Feb 2017 #17
Idiots at work Angry Dragon Feb 2017 #18
Complaining That He Was Not Fully Briefed?! Leith Feb 2017 #19
Perfect! Dyedinthewoolliberal Feb 2017 #22
Robert A Heinlein once said that anybody could be President... First Speaker Feb 2017 #20
I want Bannon gone. Solly Mack Feb 2017 #21
Dipshit signs orders without knowing what it is? IronLionZion Feb 2017 #23
Trump knew exactly what he was doing. He wants 100% allegiance in the NSC. jalan48 Feb 2017 #24
Wow... ck4829 Feb 2017 #25
That's one way of explaining it... lisa58 Feb 2017 #26
Uh... Doesn't Bannon serve at the pleasure of the President? Beartracks Feb 2017 #27

Frogg

(365 posts)
1. HE'S ANGRY...I AM ANGRY THAT WE HAVE A LUNATIC POTUS SIGNING EXECUTIVE ORDERS
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:57 AM
Feb 2017

That he either cannot or does not read. Gross negligence...REPUBLTRAITORS THIS IS ON YOU1

Baitball Blogger

(46,676 posts)
9. I am angered that A) He didn't know Bannon's personal agenda beforehand (allegedly), and
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:38 AM
Feb 2017

B) He's already blaming his staff for anything that comes off too controversial.

I mean, we definitely have film of him showing approval for the ban, don't we?

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
3. We kinda knew DTs was signing EOs to look presidential, but this is the frosting on the cake
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:01 AM
Feb 2017

He really really thought being POTUS was just a matter of waving his tiny hand and signing proclamations while others worked out the details. Well, others have been working out the details all right, and it is now starting to bite him in the ass.

I read the NYT article in full, and it is both hair-raising and hilarious. Well, mostly scary. Am I a bad person for laughing out loud?

Baitball Blogger

(46,676 posts)
11. It just goes to show you why they undervalued Obama's accomplishments.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:41 AM
Feb 2017

They really think it's an easy CEO job.

MineralMan

(146,248 posts)
5. Oh, wonderful. A POTUS who signs things he
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:10 AM
Feb 2017

hasn't read. How could that possibly go wrong?

Impeach him, Republicans. Just do it.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. "not fully briefed " meaning either he does not want briefs
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:15 AM
Feb 2017

or no one told him and he did not ASK.

Either way, his own fault.

I agree with those who say to make sure Twitler hears the phrase "Pres. Bannon" over and over.
His ego will take care of the rest.

Baitball Blogger

(46,676 posts)
12. He is creating his own plausible deniability by refusing to be briefed.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:43 AM
Feb 2017

But, Obama was a hard act to follow. No one should fall for Trump's silly CEO game. He really is running government like it was his own business.

subterranean

(3,427 posts)
28. Based on reports from those who know him, Trump doesn't have the patience
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 11:17 PM
Feb 2017

to listen to briefings about anything for more than a few minutes -- unless, of course, the subject is himself and his greatness. His advisers know he likes to keep his briefings brief. I think Bannon took advantage of that fact to slip the NSC EO past him.

Shanti Mama

(1,288 posts)
7. He is not capable of taking personal responsibility for anything
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:32 AM
Feb 2017

Yet criticized anyone who might struggle to lead a "perfect" life. Sad!

BSdetect

(8,994 posts)
8. He's obviously not suited to government
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:36 AM
Feb 2017

We have an incompetent SCROTUS now lashing out at his own incompetent staff.

Hilarious yet not so much.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,148 posts)
13. "I hereby resign the Presidency, effective immediately."
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:47 AM
Feb 2017

There y'go, Steveareeno. Slip THAT one in the stack!

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
14. He can't fricken read. He couldn't read a parapgraph in court, can barely read teleprompter.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 10:55 AM
Feb 2017

When asked in court if he "reviewed a lot of leases" he replied "Review or sign? I don't spend time reviewing leases."

He will sign whatever Bannon tells him to sign because he can't understand whatever is out in from of him. He doesn't own books. He listens to sound bites from tv and news stations as he flips through tv channels with a five second attention span.

I imagine this is part of why he insisted not attending security briefings. He would be the stupidest person in the room and every one of them would know it.

brer cat

(24,514 posts)
16. +1
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 11:11 AM
Feb 2017

I agree with all you said. I have also read that he frequently changes his mind based on the last person to talk with him. We have entered a realm never before seen and it is scary.

CrispyQ

(36,413 posts)
15. Someone took one of his photo ops of one of his exec signings
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 11:10 AM
Feb 2017

& photoshopped it to include pages of Pokemon badges. Wish I'd saved it.

Leith

(7,807 posts)
19. Complaining That He Was Not Fully Briefed?!
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 04:24 PM
Feb 2017

Whose fault is that?

Instead of taking the person(s) who didn't brief him to task (Bannon, Priebus, et al), he tells the world?

He has nobody but himself to blame.

Oh, look! There's a video of the signing!


First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
20. Robert A Heinlein once said that anybody could be President...
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 04:34 PM
Feb 2017

...some just look better on TV than others. Well, for once, Bob was wrong. *Not* anybody can be President...we've found the one person *so* stupid, *so* incompetent, that he breaks the mold...

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
21. I want Bannon gone.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 04:45 PM
Feb 2017

That said...

I don't want anyone thinking that without Bannon around, Trump would somehow be better, because he wouldn't.

I blame Bannon on Trump as much as I blame some of Trump's actions on Bannon. The two aren't that different from each other.

Someone whispering racism into your ear wouldn't appeal to you unless you agreed with the sentiments to begin with.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
23. Dipshit signs orders without knowing what it is?
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 08:09 PM
Feb 2017

Didn't even ask? Bannon just hands him stuff and he signs it like a dumbass

jalan48

(13,839 posts)
24. Trump knew exactly what he was doing. He wants 100% allegiance in the NSC.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 08:13 PM
Feb 2017

Bannon is there to let him know who's with Trump and who isn't. You control the secret government and you control the country.

Beartracks

(12,795 posts)
27. Uh... Doesn't Bannon serve at the pleasure of the President?
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 09:35 PM
Feb 2017

He can be demoted or fired, can't he?

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