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Is the truth so frightening that some people prefer lies? (Original Post) yellowcanine Feb 2017 OP
Some people just lie Turbineguy Feb 2017 #1
For many people the truth is that which they want to be true. guillaumeb Feb 2017 #2
I think it's more that they can't admit that they were wrong vlyons Feb 2017 #3
They can't admit that their RELIGION is wrong... IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #10
lol I'm a Buddhist in the Tibetan tradition vlyons Feb 2017 #11
Precisely IamFortunesFool Feb 2017 #12
Yes. no_hypocrisy Feb 2017 #4
Absolutely. Read some Hannah Arendt or Erich Fromm. HassleCat Feb 2017 #5
i know a number of republicans who readily admit their whole party philosophy is based on fiction unblock Feb 2017 #6
Trump's 2020 campaign song Bucky Feb 2017 #7
Yes. Dulcinea Feb 2017 #8
Depends on what truth you are talking about I suppose. el_bryanto Feb 2017 #9

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. For many people the truth is that which they want to be true.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 05:34 PM
Feb 2017

Thus explaining why right wingers can be anti-science if it serves their pocketbook.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
3. I think it's more that they can't admit that they were wrong
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 05:34 PM
Feb 2017

Their egos, and the fictions they concoct to support a seeming reality that their egos are always right, judgements always right, views and opinions always right cannot accept a different view or possibility.

Closed minds are, by definition, not open to other possibilities. Look at their resistance to accepting evolution or climate change, or that trickle-down economics creates jobs. Just can't accept that they got it wrong.

IamFortunesFool

(348 posts)
10. They can't admit that their RELIGION is wrong...
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 06:12 PM
Feb 2017

We live in a world where people cannot live without their smartphone, but are often utterly ignorant of, if not downright hostile to, the very science that allows the technology to function. The puritanical values that much of this country accepts has perpetuated a void in science education for several generations now. The fact is that scientific inquiry over the last several hundred years (from geology to genetics) has soundly revealed the falsehoods and stone age philosophies that lie at the core of mainstream religions. Evolution and climate science are only deniable if you are willfully ignorant of the body of evidence. You can only be ignorant of the evidence if you are either purposefully uninformed, or if you get your information from sources that have a vested interest in keeping you UNinformed...like the Church, or their media arms and political allies. These people are resistant to the truth because it would force them to completely redefine their place in the universe. They resist evolution because that means that the Genesis account of creation and Eden is incorrect, and if the creation story is untrue, then logically the rest of the narrative is thrown into question as well. It isn't their ego they are trying to protect so much as they are trying to save their messiah from the trash bin of history.

There is much wisdom to be found in religious text, but little to no honest history...and certainly no science.

It could be convincingly argued that the more philosophical abstractions of eastern religions are not so damaging to the modern world, but the Buddhist aren't running our government... And if they were, we'd be in a much better place as a species than what we get from these superstitious, patriarchal fools.


vlyons

(10,252 posts)
11. lol I'm a Buddhist in the Tibetan tradition
Tue Feb 7, 2017, 01:02 AM
Feb 2017

and believe me, the Dalai Lama is well versed in science. They're always dragging him off to observatories and various scientific symposiums and such. I've heard him say that if reincarnation is proved to be false, then he'll stop teaching it. That's how an open mind operates. Open to the possibility than one might be wrong. It's called the scientific method.

The ignorant fundamentalists experience their religion as an extension of their ego. And that's what is called "spiritual materialism." So when someone challenges their religious views, they get all huffy and defensive because they perceive that someone is attacking them, their ego, personally. Logic and reason don't do much good to wake them up. But kindness towards them can sometimes affect them.

unblock

(52,118 posts)
6. i know a number of republicans who readily admit their whole party philosophy is based on fiction
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 05:44 PM
Feb 2017

but they figure all politicians lie, and they find the republican lies more appealing.


sounds like a very bizarre way to choose a party affiliation or decide a vote, but well, that's republican logic for ya.

Dulcinea

(6,604 posts)
8. Yes.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 05:46 PM
Feb 2017

Look at all those people in Rural White America who can't accept the fact that their jobs are gone forever & will never come back.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
9. Depends on what truth you are talking about I suppose.
Mon Feb 6, 2017, 05:48 PM
Feb 2017

I've seen a lot of "truths" expounded to me that didn't seem that credible. I rejected them in favor of what I took to be the actual truth. But of course the opposite has happened as well.

Bryant

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